tkullander 18 Posted November 8, 2011 Hi there! I could really use some help fixing a issue with OFP/CWA. Just installed it on my laptop, but i am having some strange issues. Without warning the game freezes for about 10 seconds (while the current sound, if any, just repeats), then it starts running again. I'll post some aspects of the problem; I have not been able to find certain actions that triggers the freeze - sometimes when firing a LAW, sometimes while just standing still. Something i have noticed though, is that objects seems to be reloaded / redrawn when the freeze is over. Stuff like trees and bushes disappears and pops up again very quickly right after the freeze. The intervall between freezes vary between 15 minutes to 15 seconds, but it seems like the game is freezing more often the longer you play. This is not a performance issue - i have a very stable framerate, sometimes for 10 minutes or so, until the game freezes 10 seconds again. These are the things i have tried; Tried GOTY 1.96 and CWA 1.99, same problem on both. (of course i use legal versions) Autodetect for graphics gives me pretty high settings (which actually works fine), but when adjusting down the graphics to extremely low settings there is slightly less freezing, but still at a unplayable rate. Raising the values impose regular lag. I run the game in 'Direct 3D HWTL', since it runs smoother and the freeze problem persists in plain 'Direct 3D'. I have tried running mods (FFUR 2008 1.05, TonalRedux) and of course clean installs of Resistance and even Classic Flashpoint. Results are about the same (Tonal had less freezes, but it feels like it's a coincidence) I have played OFP on alot of different computers, and never had this problem before. It is quite disturbing since it's the only computer i own, and the only game i really play these days is OFP. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you very much for taking the time to read this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunter Severloh 4070 Posted November 8, 2011 Hi, Welcome to the forums. Let me just say this a laptop is not a computer in the sense of the word where you want to run a full pc game meant for proper hardware such. You have either 2 problems happening for you: 1. Your CPU does not have enough processing power for the game 2. Your CPU/gpu is overheating 3. not enough ramm TBH with you when OFP was the only BIS game we were all playing back in the day, I had the same exact issue as you til I had upgraded my computer using a better cpu,a nd gpu, then I had no issues at all. Play the game on a proper computer that has the power to render, and process, a laptop can be powerful no doubt but I'm doubting your laptop is meeting the demand of the game, just my 2 cents on it. Also provide your specs right away as folks will ask, your information is nice and detailed, but if we can rule out the computer then we would know its something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkullander 18 Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Welcome to the forums. Thank you! Sorry, forgot to include the specs on my laptop. Though i really do not think it is the performance on my laptop which is the problem. I have played OFP from time to time since it's release in 2001, and i remember the trouble to make it work somewhat playable on my 500mhz with 128mb ram. :) My laptop is a HP Pavilion DV6064ea, which means; AMD Turion 64 X2 1,6ghz 1GB of RAM Nvidia GeForce Go 7200 128mb Running good old Windows XP It is certainly not top of the line, but definitly enough. I can play Swat 4, Rainbow Six: Raven Shield and Delta Force Xtreme, all on higher settings. I also play ArmA Combat Operations on low settings, and it runs very smooth. Maybe i have bad luck (compability issues with hardware or something) but as i said i do not believe it to be a performance related problem. Of course, i may be wrong (but i would certainly be surprised!) ;) ---------- Post added at 02:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:48 PM ---------- Oh, by the way - when i crank down the settings to the config my old 500mhz could handle (running classic flashpoint), the freezing issues remains. Edited November 8, 2011 by tkullander Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted November 8, 2011 Since you didn't report any graphical glitches I think that overheating isn't the problem (when the CPU or GPU overheats, you would see mostly gray colored lines all over the screen). Are you sure you aren't running terrain detail on high or very high? Or Lod settings that are either very high or very low? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Are you using some parameters in your shortcut ? You may have a look here. Edited November 8, 2011 by ProfTournesol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkullander 18 Posted November 8, 2011 Since you didn't report any graphical glitches I think that overheating isn't the problem (when the CPU or GPU overheats, you would see mostly gray colored lines all over the screen). Correct, i have also checked the CPU temperature, and it is within normal rates. Are you sure you aren't running terrain detail on high or very high? Or Lod settings that are either very high or very low? Terrain detail is set to low (i have also tried normal), i avoid high and very high since it supposedly creates glitches. I don't know what LOD stands for, but the settings are as follows; Max Objects: 256 (highest) Objects LOD: 0,019 (about 75% on the scale) Shadows LOD: 0,050 (about 60% on the scale) What is LOD, and how does it affect the performance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkullander 18 Posted November 8, 2011 Are you using some parameters in your shortcut ? When i have tried with mods i use the normal parameters, plus the -nosplash parameter. I have also tried running it with no parameters at all, with the same result. You may have a look here. Yes, i did check it out earlier. Problem is that the game freezes for about 10 seconds, while the interval of the freeze may vary from 10 seconds to about 15 minutes. In other words, i don't think it's the same issue. Also, that solution is obsolete since nvidia removed the option of alternate depth buffering in their drivers years ago. Hmm, this is a really strange problem. Why does issues always occur to the most important games..? :confused: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted November 9, 2011 What is LOD, and how does it affect the performance? LOD is Level Of Detail, ie how detailed objects will appear. The lowest lods are the most detailed. I've got the same settings as yours IIRC. When i have tried with mods i use the normal parameters, plus the -nosplash parameter. I have also tried running it with no parameters at all, with the same result. Try the -nomap one. Hmm, this is a really strange problem. Why does issues always occur to the most important games..? :confused: That's Murphy's law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted November 9, 2011 I've got the same settings as yours IIRC. Me too, I think they are the default value. So they should be ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anguis 4 Posted November 9, 2011 Any chance there's some process for some other program going on in the background that screws up OFP? Maybe something like an AV scan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkullander 18 Posted November 9, 2011 Try the -nomap one. Will try it, is away on vacation at the moment, will post results when i am back. Thanks for the tips! That's Murphy's law. If i ever catch that friggin' Murphy... ---------- Post added at 06:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:24 PM ---------- Any chance there's some process for some other program going on in the background that screws up OFP? Maybe something like an AV scan? Yeah, i checked all processes - nothin' out of the ordinary. I also disabled my AV software (comodo), and of course rebooted my computer frequently during my tests. That's the thing, i usually figure these kind of problems out - this one seems like a hard one to crack... Thanks for the reminder though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites