Helicopter doesn't wait for me

[dar 12]

Hey guys, I'm new to this forums beacasue I just bought Arma 2 OA and really liked it. If im wrong with my thread here, I'm very sorry, also if this was answered 10 times before. As I said, I'm new to this.

Now I wanted to make some missions on my own, watched some tutorials and made a little system to call an extraction helicopter wherever you are. It almost works....

This is how I did it:

I made a base with a Blackhawk named heli, a "Player" named "Player" and a Trigger with activation on radio:bravo that is syncronized with a load-wayopint of the Blackhawk on the player with an radius of 20. This waypoint also has a waiting time of 10sec in min, max and mid and the code on activation heli land "Get in" .After that, the helicopter flies back to base and kicks you out.

The problem is, that the Blackhawk hovers (or lands when I replace "get in" with "land"), but not waits. He just stays hovering for a second and then flies back to the base. This second may be enogh for me as Human, but it is never enough to order some AIs to board it.

I tried to tell him to "sleep" for 10 seconds, tried to set the waiting time to 10000 in min, max and mid. Its always the same.

So, has anybody here a solution for me or an idea?

thx in advance,

Dar

[kylania 568]

This demo mission shows a helicopter waiting for a group to get on or off the bird.

[dar 12]

Thanks for the quick reply but unfortunatly this isn't a great help for me. The Blackhawk in the example moves to a static waypoint and stays there with another "hold position" waypoint. I can only set one waypoint on my player.

Why is the helicopter not waiting for me? I told him to continue with the next waypoint when he waited 10 seconds.

[speeder 0]

---------- Post added at 02:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:37 PM ----------

Remember to sync F AND C.

[kylania 568]

I can only set one waypoint on my player.

Umm... are you trying to do this on the fly during a game using your personal waypoint (shift-Left click on the map)? Because if so, that won't work at all. Otherwise I can't think of a reason you'd have a 1 waypoint limit on a player.

You could build in transport using SOM perhaps, that includes a wait-for-me-then-mapclick option.

[dar 12]

I also tried a Transport over SOM, but it doesn't work. Guess I will ahve to buy the whole game for some features like this (supplydrop also doesn't work, many spoken sentences are missing when I order different types of artillery).

I didn't create a personal waypoint.

How exactly can I place another waypoint on my player? If I press F4 and double-klick on my player to create a new waypoint for the Blackhawk, I just open the first one.

[kylania 568]

Guess I will ahve to buy the whole game for some features like this

Huh? What do you have if not the whole game? All of this stuff works just fine in ArmA2Free even.

F4 Waypoints will place waypoints for the currently selected editor unit. So you'd need to get waypoints for both yourself AND the Blackhawk. Never put waypoints on top of each other, near each other is good enough. Try what Speeder has in his image above but lay out the waypoints for the players group first then for the Blackhawk.

[dar 12]

I just have OA

If I put waypoints neer to my player, how can I link them to him? And how do I create a waypoint for two units?

Edited August 8, 2011 by Dar

[kylania 568]

Click on your player, his icon will be darker (if you click off him you'll see his icon fades in the editor). With the player selected press F4 then click somewhere else on the map. This will place a waypoint. Click somewhere else again and you'll place a second waypoint for the same group.

Waypoints are for groups. If you want two units to have the same waypoints group them up. If you want them separate but to have the same waypoints either make new waypoints for the second unit near the first ones or use the copyWaypoints command.

[dar 12]

I know how to place waypoints, but thanks. But my actual question was, how to link a waypoint to an unit, without placing it on the unit. Also I don't want to have the waypoints for both the helo and the player. The helo should just fly to my position, land, wait 10 seconds and fly back.

Do I need a helopad to command a landing for longer time?

I know there is a commadn named "waitUntil". Is there another one like "player-is-In-Cargo-vehicle"?

To refer to speeders picture: I also tried something like this. Helo comes, lands for a moment, but does NOT wait for me but flies back to the base immediatly.

Edited August 8, 2011 by Dar

[demonized 20]

scripted solution using no waypoints.

pilot1 doMove (getPos helipad);
waitUntil {sleep 1; unitReady pilot1};

doStop pilot1;
heliname land "GET IN";

waitUntil {player in heliname}; // wait until player is in heli.
//waitUntil {({_x in heliname OR !alive _x} count units group player) == (count (units (group player)))};  // optional, wait until all in player group is either dead or inside heliname.
pilot1 doMove (getPos spomewhereelse);

[dar 12]

Ok... I never used a script. lets see how it works

Ok, lets say I'm now closer to my objective. I copied parts of this (doStop pilot1;

heliname land "GET IN"; ) and (waitUntil {({_x in heliname OR !alive _x} count units group player) == (count (units (group player)))}; ) to the on Activation panel of the waypoint where the heli should land. I named my group "delta" by writing in the properties of my player "delta = group this". Hope this is wright. So I have (waitUntil {({_x in heliname OR !alive _x} count units delta) == (count (units (delta)))}; )

the helo now stops and waits for me - or one of my group members. When only one guy or I board the chopper, it flies away. What did I do wrong?

---------- Post added at 07:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:31 PM ----------

No idea?

---------- Post added at 07:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 PM ----------

Now, how can I order the helo to stay 'til everybody's inside? I tried the script above and also the script of the first demo mission ({alive _x && _x in blackhawk} count units delta == {alive _x} count units delta). None worked.

Edited August 8, 2011 by Dar

[f2k sel 164]

It needs to go in the condition of the way point and not the activation and make sure heli name matches the name in the code.

[dar 12]

XD works. Thanks a lot

[dar 12]

I'm sorry to have to bother you again with this, but when it worked I had only luck that all of us jumped into the helo the same time. I was so happy about it that I didn't want to test it some times... Now it still doesn't wait for the others or me. When only one guy enters the helo - it flies away. I tried everything. Putted this script(delta is my group and Blackhawk me helo)

waitUntil {({_x in Blackhawk OR !alive _x} count units delta) == (count (units (delta)))};

in the waypoint activation panel, this

({_x in Blackhawk OR !alive _x} count units delta) == (count (units (delta)));

into the next waypoints condition - nothing works. Any idea or did I do something wrong?

[f2k sel 164]

This uses the code and works for me.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/48h15w

If you still have problems you better post your mission so we can take a look.

[dar 12]

can't open, cause it's an ".utes" . Like I said, i only have OA.

[f2k sel 164]

Sorry I run Combined so it's hard to remember what game has what.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/b5du1e

This is the same but on Zagrabad.

[dar 12]

Thank you. I now entered that code. But as long as I can say - I did exactly that. I think the problem is somewhere else. the helo lands, takes one person and starts again to his next waypoint, where I set the code as condition. THERE he stops and doesn't move anymore. Shouldn't he check if everybody is inside when he's about to start? And not when he's already arrived at the location? Its wierd...

Link to my mission: http://www.gamefront.com/files/20654769/Patrol.Takistan.7z (if it helps)

Don't wonder about some strange spellings ... I'm German

Edited August 9, 2011 by Dar

[demonized 20]

you cant use waituntil or sleep directly in fields of a trigger.

we can however use spawn (same function as script with some restrictions ( no comments))

place this in the on act of the MOVE wp where he should pick up someone.

_null = heliname spawn {
_pilot = driver _this;
doStop _pilot;
_this land "GET IN";
waitUntil {({_x in _this OR !alive _x} count units group player) == (count (units (group player)))};
_pilot doMove (getPos _this);
};

wich should make him land wait for all players group to be either inside or dead.

then he will move to his current position, and continue to his next wp.

[f2k sel 164]

Demonized is right if you had used -shownscripterrors you whould have seen it give an error http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=121163

I removed the waituntil as it's not needed anyway.

The move waypoint after the load waypoint should be placed close to each other, if they are too far apart the heli will pop back into the air.

From the mission it was hard to test, I had to move the waypoints around a little as they were to close to test but you probably know what your doing.

Edited August 9, 2011 by F2k Sel

[dar 12]

Ok, lets try it - is it possible to don't say him "getPos" but something like "get(next)waypoint"?

@F2K Sel: I can't place the waypoints closer to each othe beacause the system should be flexible. So as long as I can't bind this 2nd move waypoint to my player - I'll have to place it near the base.

Edited August 9, 2011 by Dar

[kylania 568]

Dar, can you explain exactly what you want to happen? Don't worry about details or code or waypoints -- just what you want to work and how you want to interact with it.

Example:

I want there to be a helicopter at the base that will come pick me and my group up at a specific spot and fly me back to base.

or

I want there to be a helicopter that I start in that flies me to the AO and drops me off then I don't care what happens to it.

or

I want to be able to use the radio to call for a helicopter to come pick me up, wait for me to board, then drop me off where I click on the map.

[f2k sel 164]

Looking at his mission I would say he needs a click on map system and do away with waypoints.

[dar 12]

with this script, the helo doesn't even land but flys back immediatly

Ok to say what I want:

I want an helo at a static base, that waits for my call over radio - bravo. When I called him, he should start and fly to my position, wherever I am on the map. There, he should land to pick me AND my squad of AIs up before he returns to base, lands an kicks us out. After that, I awnt to be able to repeat this procedure as often as I want (doesn't work at the moment)

This works at the moment - I can call him per radio. He flies to my position wherever I am. He lands to pick us up. If I order the AIs to mount it, he waits til they're inside and flies back without me. If I board it first, he flies back without the AIs. If I order one AI to board it, he waits for this guy and flies away without me and the rest of my squad. If i order the AIs to board it and enter the helo shortly after they entered it (helo is about to take off), he flies back and lands like I ant it. Unfortunatly he won't do all this again when I call him again. Thats it.

Edited August 9, 2011 by Dar