Free advice for Bohemia Interactive on Arma2:Free

[pathetic_berserker 4]

A2 free is good as is , it's free.

And as for the IP thing. Realy so what. The complexity of many missions will actually survive such foolishness, particularly if the server admins are on ball and people are prepared to speak out against wierd behavoiur.

A2 free has been released to serve a purpose, expand BIS player base. The expansion is only actually effective if some go on to spend money and buy a BIS game, so I'd prefer to think of it as an awsome demo.

[jblackrupert 14]

The complexity of many missions will actually survive such foolishness

There is no mission if you can't get 50 feet from your spawn point before being TK'd.

Something needs to be in place to keep the trouble makers out once they have been kicked/banned.

When Arma 2 first came out there was a lot of morons doing stupid stuff like TK'ing and blowing up base assets BUT those people payed for the game. when the ban hammer

started coming down and addons started to appear it slowed waaaaay down

and and the idiots moved on.

Arma 2 free is a different problem.

They don't lose their investment ($) when they get banned from servers.

They don't have to muck around with addons to join servers. Click join.. start trouble.

Since the game is free. Trouble makers should be dealt with harshly. No second chances.

The purpose of Arma 2 Free is to get new PAYING customers who want to play the game

as it's meant to be played.

There is also a risk that many of the vanilla servers are going to start firing up addons to keep them out instead of having to babysit the server 24/7.

The loss of vanilla servers will hurt those who bought the game and like to play without addons for whatver reason.

Edited June 26, 2011 by jblackrupert

[helo 10]

There is no mission if you can't get 50 feet from your spawn point before being TK'd.

Something needs to be in place to keep the trouble makers out once they have been kicked/banned.

When Arma 2 first came out there was a lot of morons doing stupid stuff like TK'ing and blowing up base assets BUT those people payed for the game. when the ban hammer

started coming down and addons started to appear it slowed waaaaay down

and and the idiots moved on.

Arma 2 free is a different problem.

They don't lose their investment ($) when they get banned from servers.

They don't have to muck around with addons to join servers. Click join.. start trouble.

Since the game is free. Trouble makers should be dealt with harshly. No second chances.

The purpose of Arma 2 Free is to get new PAYING customers who want to play the game

as it's meant to be played.

There is also a risk that many of the vanilla servers are going to start firing up addons to keep them out instead of having to babysit the server 24/7.

The loss of vanilla servers will hurt those who bought the game and like to play without addons for whatver reason.

This man has some very good points.

[Murklor 10]

There is also a risk that many of the vanilla servers are going to start firing up addons to keep them out instead of having to babysit the server 24/7

Ah... The "Arma 2 Anti-TK" addon. Its main goal is to reduce teamkilling. Nobody knows what this seemingly empty PBO contain, but it mysteriously reduce teamkilling anyway, maybe by some kind of vodoo magic. Oh and there are no free players, but that's probably nothing to do with it.

[demonized 20]

for the teamkilling on servers, can this not be simply dealt with via a small script and MPKilled eventhandlers, kick playerUID, then add to list of kicked, if reconnects, kick again, reset on missio restart, if same beheaviour, kick.

i remember in armed assault playing evolution, where you got stuck in this cell, with the annoying banana song playing loud for 60 seconds if you teamkilled, that got rid of a LOT of intentional TK´rs, and prevented good folks to be excluded from the mission because of a accident, because we know those happens.

[jblackrupert 14]

The deliberate shit disturbers need to be locked out completely the first time.

No TK.... kick....rejoin....TK.....rinse and repeat.

Something that won't harm the people who make the usual mistakes their first few times out with Arma.

Those guys aren't getting 50 Tk's in 5 minutes like I was witnessing on a few servers.

[demonized 20]

The deliberate shit disturbers need to be locked out completely the first time.

what you would need for that to work is to have a 24/7 dedicated admin.

imo, the banana song 60 second timeout for each time you TK could be the best workaorund on open public servers with no 24/7 admin.

do we want 10 more paying players for the sacrifise of all open public servers?

because in the end, that is the result of widespread and free game.

wich is why public servers and arma in general is fine with arma being a secluded game, not for all the morons.

we dont need it to be world wide, because the world will ruin it, that simple.

[jblackrupert 14]

Maybe something built into the client itself that detects and blocks it from working

when you go on on a TK fest.

That along with IP bans would be pretty effective, the work involved in getting back will just not worth the effort.

There are also lists of proxy servers available that admins could use to block those out

so they can't be used. The lists were created for forum admins to use.

What i'm seen so far out of 30-40 people on a server it's maybe 5 at most doing the TK's

and the rest were decent free people trying to figure out whats going on.

[pathetic_berserker 4]

There is no mission if you can't get 50 feet from your spawn point before being TK'd.

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Fair point, I wasn't thinking about TK's specificaly , but maybe I should have as that is the biggest shitter of all. I'd say give a warning, then kick, then kick perm'. It's a shame when as you say, its only a few that spoil it for every one. But this is certainly not a new phenomenon, I remember A2's early days, and it has occured with many onlne shooters soon after release.

[jblackrupert 14]

But this is certainly not a new phenomenon, I remember A2's early days, and it has occured with many onlne shooters soon after release.

Not like this though.

They don't lose their money if they get banned from everywhere

and the addons that appeared shortly after Arma 2 was released made

going from server to server causing problems a little more work.

The majority of the free players are decent and eager to learn..... As soon as the morons can be dealt with.

You can't even type have the time because of the Friendly fire spam.

Edited June 27, 2011 by jblackrupert