BI's zooming eye thingy?

[legion7698 0]

Hey All,

I thought I'd post this in off topic as it seemed the most sensible place to put it. So you all know when you press and hold the rght mouse button it will zoom your vision in (cannot run ArmA 2 so not sure about it being in there although have ordered parts to take me well above the needed minimum specs). I have had many people claim this is unrealistic, usually when debating things like call of duty and such, but I have always countered it is a realisitc stand-in. My reasons for this is that in real life you are able to focus on objects at a distance thus "zooming in" your vision. I've found you cannot focus on an object on a moniter the same way.

So I would like to know what you guys think of this and how you play reflects this.

Regards,

LEGION7698.

[max power 21]

Hey All,

I thought I'd post this in off topic as it seemed the most sensible place to put it. So you all know when you press and hold the rght mouse button it will zoom your vision in (cannot run ArmA 2 so not sure about it being in there although have ordered parts to take me well above the needed minimum specs). I have had many people claim this is unrealistic, usually when debating things like call of duty and such, but I have always countered it is a realisitc stand-in. My reasons for this is that in real life you are able to focus on objects at a distance thus "zooming in" your vision. I've found you cannot focus on an object on a moniter the same way.

So I would like to know what you guys think of this and how you play reflects this.

Regards,

LEGION7698.

As has been explained on many previous occasions, the RMB zoom doesn't mimic "focus" but actually displays the world and objects therein at a size comparable to their proportions vs distance in you real-life field of view.

The unzoomed view in turn shows an unrealistically wide field of view in order for the player to retain some degree of spatial awareness. As a result, objects seem much smaller than they would in real life.

In a previous thread that discussed this topic, one of the forum members made a very nice visualisation of this effect. I wasn't able to find it, but imagine this:

• Take a box, width and and height resembling the size of your monitor, depth identical to the distance between your eyes and the screen.
  
• Take out the front and the rear ends of the box and attach the contraption to your head.
  
• Pick up a 1 meter-long M16A4.
  
• Now try to aim the weapon and walk around a bit.
  
• And note that I'm not accepting any legal liability for sustained injuries and/or property damage.
  

Doesn't work too well, does it? That's what a 1:1 realistic field of view in a 3D environment would look like. Games overcome this by taking a FOV angle resembling the one you'd normally have, and squeezing it inside that little gap at the end of the box. Naturally this makes the entire world far smaller than it should be. Realistic 300-500m fire fights would be reduced to single digit pixel hunting sessions, where in real life you'd still see far larger objects at such ranges. That's where the RMB zoom comes in, allowing you to see distant objects at the size they would have in real life.

[.kju 3244]

Here is a full thread to get a complete picture of the discussion:

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=114222

[legion7698 0]

Cheers guys. I tried searching for a thread like this but failed.

Regards,

LEGION7698.

[Beagle 684]

Hey All,

I thought I'd post this in off topic as it seemed the most sensible place to put it. So you all know when you press and hold the rght mouse button it will zoom your vision in (cannot run ArmA 2 so not sure about it being in there although have ordered parts to take me well above the needed minimum specs). I have had many people claim this is unrealistic, usually when debating things like call of duty and such, but I have always countered it is a realisitc stand-in. My reasons for this is that in real life you are able to focus on objects at a distance thus "zooming in" your vision. I've found you cannot focus on an object on a moniter the same way.

So I would like to know what you guys think of this and how you play reflects this.

Regards,

LEGION7698.

There is no zoom in in ArmA...there is only a wide abgkle zoom out...the left mouse button just gives you a 1:1 aspect ratio like in nature on a 22" monitor. Considring the ranges ArmA figting takes place this is the only way to do this, otherwise we would shoot at single pixels at 200m...a range where human sized targets are good visible in nature.

So again, there is no zoom in in ArmA, only a zoom out for wide field of view.

[legion7698 0]

After reading through the thread I was linked to previously I'd totally agree. I'd never realy thought that much into it which is why I posted here for a further discussion. Now thanks to you kind chaps I have been enlightened to a side of things I've never thought of before.

LEGION7698.

[rellikki 7]

Here is a full thread to get a complete picture of the discussion:

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=114222

Closing, please use the existing thread linked above.