ARMA 2:OA beta patch 76752

[kuIoodporny 45]

Oh c'mon! That's the easy way out, Dwarden...

Justifying that certain equipment is unreliable in the game, because the RL counterparts are as well is really strange, if you look at the rest of the game, where BMPs and old tanks like the T34 have very efficient main gun stabilization, where countermeassures on aircraft are closer to force fields than real ones, where weapons in general don't malfunction, where 5.56 and even 7.62 rounds lose a rediculous amount of damage over distances of 300+ meters, where barrel-launched missiles like those on the T90 are almost impossible to steer on target, and where ATGM steering in general goes crazy after around 1500 meters instead of 3000+ meters range they usually have. The list goes on.

Now looking at it purely from a game balance and user expectations point of view:

The MI-24 is the only attack chopper available to Takistan (compared to Cobra and Apache on the US side). Takistan should have a reliable gunship available, which can at least to some degree compete with those available to the US forces.

Either it is a really bad design choice to only give it missiles that miss most of the time - even if true to reallife - or it's a bug that should get fixed (for example by dropping the missiles and put AT-9er on it instead or by improving chances to hit).

I would claim it's a bug. So please look into it. :)

Thats true ,but lastest version of AT-2C (9M17MP) should be more accurate to hit targets

Amen. Original 3M11 Falanga is not used anymore anywhere. Today Mi-24Ds carry modernized SACLOS 9M17P/9M17MP or no ATGMs at all, and so do Hinds in ACE.

I saw Russian video that claimed 3M11 Falanga combat effectiveness below 1%, while 9M17P is more than 90% reliable against immobile targets. In fact MCLOS missiles are pretty much obsolete.

Another thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi-24

The Mil Mi-24 (Cyrillic Миль Ми-24, NATO reporting name 'Hind') is a large helicopter gunship (and attack helicopter)[1] and low-capacity troop transport (Carries 8) produced by Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant and operated from 1972 by the Soviet Air Force, its successors, and over thirty other nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M11_Falanga

The next development took was to integrate SACLOS guidance - the result was the AT-2 Swatter-C or 9M17P Skorpion-P. It entered service in 1969. A product improved version the 9M17MP was developed, with an improved engine and signal lamp.

Am I correct or BIS Hinds are the only ones that use MCLOS 3M11 Falanga?

FPDR

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/11088

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/11850

Edited December 19, 2010 by zGuba

[Mr. Charles 22]

You stoopid, don't u know Takistan Army, Russia, CDF, CHKdZ and all other countries in the ArmAversum are too poor to buy the SACLOS :j: :rolleyes:

[roberthammer 582]

Heh what about Russian Hinds - they should be have those modern types of Hind - like Mi-24 PN , Mi-24 VM or Mi-35M

[kuIoodporny 45]

When we see AK-107s in their troopers hands... it makes some sense :)

But then I think about numbers, and they tell me that it's as realistic as equipping them with MCLOS missiles :)

[Alex72 1]

Please give feedback on betas without addons loaded. BIS needs to know what works and not at the core.