Longinius 1 Posted April 30, 2002 I need help digging up some Pentagon pics from 11th september. Having the classic "not a plane but a bomb" discussion on another forum. I seem to remember Wobble ( I think ) posting a link to a pic where one could see where the two engines had entered? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobble 1 Posted April 30, 2002 yea, that was me.. Ill try to find a pic.. shouldent it be a moot argument after the video of the plane hitting it was released? and what about the people (now dead) on the plane.. including a prominant reporter? were they made up? or better yet.. killed by the gov? and the 1000s (literally) of eye witnesses? all liers? actors? gimme a break if it were a truck bomb, there would be a circular crater.. not a arrow shaped one, and it wouldent have damaged the building as much.. (steel reinforced concrete 2 feet thick) tell them to kiss your ass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted April 30, 2002 Well, the guy arguing is one of those hardcore conspiracy fanatics. I am not as much trying to convince him as simply debunk his statements for other people that happen to view ti. "and what about the people (now dead) on the plane.. including a prominant reporter? were they made up? or better yet.. killed by the gov?" Yes. According to this guy they were shot down when the pilots figured out a way to beat the remote control device on the airplane... "and the 1000s (literally) of eye witnesses? all liers? actors?" Since one person originally claimed it to be a Cessna, witnesses cannot be trusted... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted April 30, 2002 just show that idiot recent bin Laden tape where he boasts his feat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted April 30, 2002 "just show that idiot recent bin Laden tape where he boasts his feat" Well, since I myself am not convinced about those tapes it wouldnt be a good idea. Besides, it doesnt prove it was a plane that actually flew into the Pentagon. Only evidence from Pentagon proves that. Thats why I need pictures that show it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R. Gerschwarzenge 0 Posted April 30, 2002 Here's the conspiracy pages. http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted April 30, 2002 hmm...good point...the video shows that he masterminded planes, but he didn't specify where he hit. in case of confusion, the most recent one shows bin Laden talking about economic impact, and one of hijacker's pledge was put in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USSoldier11B 0 Posted April 30, 2002 Conspiracy theories make me natious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobble 1 Posted April 30, 2002 so.. what does this idiot think? that the plane aimed for the pentagon was shot down.. and then the gov blew up the pentagon anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted April 30, 2002 Yeah, thats about it. First they shot it down, then they fired a missile into the Pentagon. He refuses to answer which kind of portable missile could cause such damage though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobble 1 Posted April 30, 2002 ok the big problem is.. where is the debris!!??! A: look at the picture.. notice something missing? how about smoke?.. the pentagon smoked for 2 weeks before it was totally put out.. guess what happens over those 2 weeks (AT LEAST 2 WEEKS).. recovery crews, the FBI, CIA and every other agency combs and picks up every single piece of debris they can find... B: the plane DOVE into the pentagon.. the idiots list the plane's speed at 250... hellooo.. thats its LANDING SPEED.. I.E. flaps and gear down.. do you think the terrorist would slow the plane , lower flaps and gear.. and then fly it into the building?? hell no, he dove it into the building at full speed.. so?? well look at what a plane is made of.. thin aluminium.. imaging a aluminium can full of jet fuel hitting a brick wall going 350-450 kts.. aluminium melts easy.. alot lower than steel.. so the plane would pretty much be squashed into a wad and then melted... everything inside the plane is either steel, or plastic or aluminium.. all of which could EASILY be melted by the xxx thousand gallons of jet fuel the plane was carrying.. C: the twin towers.. you see any plane debris there? noop.. you see paper.. and flames.. (wierd huh) so between A: the long time between the incident and when the pic waqs taken.. allowing for ample time for debris collection B: the fact that given the extrmemes of the crash little dibris could be expected.. so what little debris that was left was collected and taken for analysis.. simple.. alot more practical than some nuttfuck conspiricy of truck bombs and god knows what else these idiots come up with on scale.. a coke can is more ridgid and tougher than a jumbo jet.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted April 30, 2002 Another site that "proves" that it wasnt an airplane... http://www.thepowerhour.com/postings/report.htm These has to be sites that prove the opposite using the same kind of images and such, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted April 30, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ April 30 2002,13:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There has to be sites that prove the opposite using the same kind of images and such, right?<span id='postcolor'> http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted April 30, 2002 Yeah Avon, I allready know about snopes. But the guy wants better pics to prove an airplane impacted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
