Lorca

I'm surprised that Honey Nut Cheerios hasn't been banned in Iran; that tasty crunchy circular form looks rather suspicious for the volatile home security. And that Captain Crunch guy, I think there's a conspiracy going on somewhere.

Sorry for the "hard" words but, don't worry, my words are soft compare to what they can say. Yes, there are helpful folks here as well. Maybe, that's another reason why I'm still sticking around here. One thing for sure though, despite all this, I'm ALWAYS defending/supporting BIS in other forums and, frankly, this is the only game that I support despite not liking the community as much as others. If anybody thinks I'm lying, go to the Bethesda forums; in the off topic section. In fact, here's a reply I made to another member there(my name is Lorca there too): http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1397955-dayz-arma-2-thread-04/

You're correct. The BIS community is one of the biggest elitist communities I've seen in my experience in other forums. This community has a mile long footprint of being anti-newbie. In my early posts I was replied to by many arrogant jerks. Luckily, I love Arma 2 so much that I've put up with this "post traumatic stress disorder" community.

Face it, even if BIS created a perfect milsim game it wouldn't have more appeal in the market. The hard fact is that mainstream isn't interested in milsim. Unfortunately, gamers nowadays want Hollywood Rambo style action. That's why Arma2 is a "niche" game/genre.

To the OP: You're worrying too much instead of being happy for BIS. BIS has worked so hard and I'm glad they're earning some well deserve extra cash. God knows how much money an indie company needs. You can start worrying when you see the writing on the wall but in the meantime, don't put the cart before the horse. To stone an imaginary conclusion is the silliest thing one can do.

Well, in business it's ideal and efficient to kill two birds with one stone. If BIS is doing this, I applaud them. That's how you run a business. I've been in other game forums and fans are lucky there if they get a patch every 3-4 months. BIS is one of the few devs that do care for their fans if you compare them to other companies and that's partly due because of their small company status.

There's a very remote possibility that this could happen but in all honesty, I highly doubt it. BIS has very important and serious clients not just videogame players. I highly doubt they will give shitty half-ass products to their clients just because of a zombie game. If we had EA in the equation then that's another story. BIS is a business. They can handle at least two successful titles. If BIS does turn their backs on us, well, that's BIS for ya. It's not Dayz fault but their ethics as business people. Lucky for me, my life or my house doesn't depend on a video game.

I'll drink to that. This is WHY I've been in favor of Dayz from day one even though I haven't played it yet. My wish is for BIS to use the new revenues from Dayz to make a better Arma series, a better engine, a better editor and, of course, a better MP.

Lol, I didn't know "bored housewives" played videogames. I thought they were too busy cheating on their husbands. Anyways, Dayz has been a great chapter in BIS history so far. God knows how much money they have made and I hope Rocket gets rewarded fairly. Rocket single handily has placed Arma on the map. For those who are saying that they feel sad or whatnot that these new fans are here because of Dayz and not Arma 2 military gameplay, well, don't be. Most of the new Dayz players have no interest whatsoever in military sim games. So, all this bull about these "kids" are coming to ruin Arma is pure nonsense. If they are here for Dayz then rest assure that your military simulation "Arma" is safe. What about those who say only Dayz servers online? Well, where are the Arma 2 fans to open up their servers? Cons: nothing at all and this come from a guy who hasn't played Dayz yet. I'm not really into the vampire/werewolf/zombie culture, but, I'm looking at the whole picture and Dayz from a business point of view is a gift that not many companies get in a life time.

Lol, yeah. That thread was mind bottling. That jerk deserves to be banned from the forums as well since he enthusiastically admits he was cheating in Dayz servers. Once you cheat in one game chances are he's cheating somewhere else. Another fool who shot himself on the foot. Good job BattlEye.

Rocket has single handily put Arma 2 on the map. When you have a game that makes players sing while they drive along the roads of Chernarus then you've got something special in the making.

yeah, that looks like a similar thread. Lol, one thing I've noticed about BIS forums is that more than any other game forum, they have this inexorable disdain towards threads posted in the wrong section. Veteran or noobie members will crucify you for this. Is mind-bottling. Even when logging in the forum for the first time you have to swear an oath to this law. First time I've ever seen that in a game forum.

The Holy Grail of marketing is trying to understand what people want and give them want they want. Even when this happens, it's still not guaranteed your marketing will succeed. There was this music band who created a cassette with many songs, the not so good songs were placed on side B(as customary)and their best songs on side A. Guess what? one song, just ONE song from side B somehow touched a chord with people that it became an instant hit selling millions. Look at Facebook. There were other similar social sites that offered the same stuff and much more but somehow people were fixated with Facebook. It's a mystery really what makes something a hit and BIS should thank the Gods that this gift call Dayz no matter how insignificant and "childish" it may be for some has come to their door step.

Let us not forget that one of the reason of Dayz success is the map of Chernarus. Chernarus, like Arma 2 itself, is a very underrated map. It's a beautiful and, most importantly, believable world. Then again, I shouldn't be surprise since the devs use real world data to map Chernarus with some modification to make it playable. Also, another thing that makes Chernarus believable and something which many don't really pay attention perhaps, is the spatial distances. When you run or walk you really notice a correct amount of space that you have covered. In other words, unlike other CoD style shooters, you cover distances in a very unrealistic way. Arcade games are just like that; you pass along the whole length of a house in 1-2 seconds.

I agree 100%. I'm extremely happy for BIS because they are getting revenues that they should have had many years ago. Their hard work is paying off. Already, people are admiring the beautiful map of Chernarus. Anyways, don't worry about any significant compromises, if at all. Even if Dayz does become very successful I highly doubt it will hinder the quality of the Arma series. Is probable that BIS will still remain a indie company even with the possible success of Dayz. BIS has invested so much in the military style of gaming that I highly doubt they are going to throw it all for a zombie game. BIS is a business and I wouldn't be surprise if the CEO hires a few more employees to work on Dayz with Rocket as creative director and whatnot in that department. Luckily, EA isn't pulling any of the strings on this company.

Actually, Arma2 displacing Max payne 3 has happened a few times already, lol. Is like a boxing match; one is on top, later the other one is. ---------- Post added at 00:44 ---------- Previous post was at 00:37 ---------- I think Dayz from a business stand point would be better off as a stand alone game in the future using the Arma engine than a DLC. A "DLC" gives the impression that the title is a small game; an appendage of something better. The DLC scenario might be good in the beginning for Dayz but if Dayz becomes highly profitable then becoming a standalone game is the next logical step.

Yeah, and you said that in 2007. I'm practically new to the forums and one thing I've noticed is that the Arma community is very protective--perhaps even hostile--towards new ideas that changes the game towards "mainstream". I still remember my 2nd post I made to these forums. I asked why there wasn't any sound effect when you open a door in Arma 2 and if there was a mod for it. Boy, immediately there was a ass*****been sarcastic telling me why I don't do it myself among other hostile sentiments. Jeez, thanks for welcoming me to the Arma forums.

Nice find, although I wouldn't call Dayz mainstream just yet. Right now Dayz is more like a solid novelty. One thing for sure though, Dayz is becoming better known than Arma 2 military game. All is becoming like that situation in life in which the son surpasses the father or the student surpasses the teacher.

I'm an Arma 2 player but good players and bad players are found in every game. I've found even stupid players playing Civilization IV.

Yeah, like everyone says here, get Arma2 CO(Combine Operations)now. Besides, Arma2 Co is highly affordable at steam and perhaps even cheaper at Ebay. Anyways, welcome to the pc master race, lol.

Yeah, the Dayz mod is a perfect candidate for becoming a standalone game. But don't be surprise either if in the future Dayz standalone game surpasses Arma in popularity and profits. Life is full of ironies and Dayz came out of the womb of irony. And suppose Dayz does become a very solid game with a big following, I doubt that BIS will "cut-down" the RV engine for Dayz, at most it would be as good as the Arma version.

I'm one of the few Arma 2 fans, I suppose, who is happy of this attention BIS is getting. Sure, it may not be what BIS or the fans were expecting--or wanted-- but in business terms this attention has put BIS on the map and they should, of course, do all they can to take advantage of this "free" propaganda. I'm happy because Arma will always be a military game despite the zombie mod which, if it becomes very popular, will branch into its own; a separate entity powered by the Arma engine. Look, Toyota makes cars and if people all of the sudden start buying more cars because they love a particular color Toyota gave to their cars, I doubt Toyota will all of the sudden throw away their car manufacturing business just to get into the paint job business.

Isn't that amazing? I'm pretty sure many game developers are scratching their heads right now thinking how in the hell this is possible? Is not like Dayz has revolutionized the Zombie/horror genre.... has it? I checked Steam and again Arma 2 is back in first place as the best seller. Boy, Christmas came early for BIS.

That's a good thing, a very good thing. Publishing companies have helped many small time game developers but they also have much blood in their hands. I still remember when Eidos, a game publishing company, almost destroyed the reputation of Tomb Raider; They certainly ruined the game developing studio CORE(the creators of Tomb Raider) All because they pushed CORE to finish the game before it was ready. When TR: The Angel of Darkness hit the stores, the fans cried Bloody Mary! The game was unfinished with voids of no meshes/textures, horrible horrible unresponsive controls and whatnot. It was a MESS, a fiasco like some critics put it of an unbelievable franchise. EIDOS in disappointment, dumped CORE and gave the job to Crystal Dynamics to take the helm since EIDOS owned the Tomb Raider trademark. CORE was never the same after that and eventually disbanded. Some of the members tried to create their own studio but they failed. EIDOS eventually failed as well since their revenues were no longer stellar. They were bought by another company(not sure if wholly)but they still have the EIDOS trademark.

I'm pretty sure only in what Dayz has to offer, or what a "zombie" game has to offer. If they were interested in the military simulation they would have come to Arma a long time ago. But then again, they didn't know Arma existed. I've seen some YouTube vids of them playing and they seem like a very happy bunch of folks having a great time. They look like tourist in San Francisco. ---------- Post added at 03:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:12 PM ---------- I haven't played Dayz but one thing we know for sure is that the default Arma 2 AI driving skill is not that good. That's why there are mods to fix or minimized their path ways. Having said that, I remember the first time I played Arma 2. I was in the editor and spawned a sedan and a driver and I told him to drive me to a far, far location. At first he was following the roads and all of the sudden he took a shortcut and then another. I thought it was a glitch since sometimes he stopped completely and I could almost see him "thinking" about where to go next. sure enough, he drove me to this obscure off-road area and I was like, "Are you going to rape me or something?" but all this time the AI knew what he was doing. We arrived at our destination after 35 realtime minutes of AI driving. I was really impress. I killed the chauffeur and headed back from where I started before it got dark:D