Aculaud 0 Posted April 17, 2002 what kinds of things could i do with a support waypoint? I had some ideas, but i dont know if they'l work. What if i had a support waypoint and there was an un-attached squad of apaches flying around, and i was just observing the place? could they see the units i identify? And then i also heard if you give a medic or an m113 ambulence a support waypoint, you can call them if you get hurt. this true? What else can you do with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suma 8 Posted April 17, 2002 Units that reach "Support" waypoint wait until they receive request for support from some group leader. Human leader can do this via Command menu. Once they receive the request they move to support and when finished, they are waiting for a new request. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 Suma, Is there a way to let them return to the support waypoint after giving the support ? I use it for a while now in a few missions, but i cant figure out how to let the unit return to support wp when given the "done" command 5-1-5. I use the support feature for medevac in a ctf mission, but it s kinda a sitting duck after given the support THX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart.Jan 0 Posted April 17, 2002 I don't call medical,fuel,repair support when there is enemy nearby. They are logistic support, not combat support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bart.Jan @ April 17 2002,13:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't call medical,fuel,repair support when there is enemy nearby. They are logistic support, not combat support.<span id='postcolor'> D'oh, If you last abrams is crippled on the edge of enemy territory you will ! And how do you know there is no enemy nearby ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart.Jan 0 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you last abrams is crippled on the edge of enemy territory you will !<span id='postcolor'> Supporting units are not only for you. Every commander can call for help. If you lost most of your tanks/men you already lost. If you are in or on edge of enemy territory and you need support then just go back to your territory. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And how do you know there is no enemy nearby ??<span id='postcolor'> Stop, scan horizon, listen, send most able units to guard on strategic positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ April 17 2002,12:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I use the support feature for medevac in a ctf mission, but it s kinda a sitting duck after given the support<span id='postcolor'> I use it in a CTF map with respawn, but without vehicle respawn ! So my men respawn ! But if i loose that last abrams i will LOOSE. So that last crippled abrams will be repaired where it s d**n well possible ! You have to see it in that context. Read, then comment Why do some people never get that i am talking about OFP the game instead of real life tactics ! Fanatics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart.Jan 0 Posted April 17, 2002 So if you want to save your support units  - kill youself. You'll repawn in base and there call support and they'll come to your position in base. It's a game solution.  btw : I'm using procedure about support units, I posted before, in game. OFP is a GAME with many realistic sides. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bart.Jan @ April 17 2002,21:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So if you want to save your support units  - kill youself. You'll repawn in base and there call support and they'll come to your position in base. It's a game solution.  <span id='postcolor'> And my little tank Gone .... in enemy hands, getting repaired and reloaded .... Herr flick fill not like ziz ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart.Jan 0 Posted April 17, 2002 It's a hard work to be lone wolf. (in real battle even in OFP ). Team has bigger chance to succes and OFP is team game. You hasn't discovered it yet ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bart.Jan @ April 17 2002,21:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's a hard work to be lone wolf. (in real battle even in OFP ). Team has bigger chance to succes and OFP is team game. You hasn't discovered it yet ?<span id='postcolor'> Uhm, yeah i have http://pointzero.tk I m not talking about team, but about the last abrams on a ctf map .... even you should know how important an abrams can be for a side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart.Jan 0 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I m not talking about team, but about the last abrams on a ctf map .... even you should know how important an abrams can be for a side  <span id='postcolor'> Yes, you are not talking about team. Why waste last abrams with one man ? Shouldn't be there at least 2 men ? And some infantry support if it's a last tank ? I got some material for you to study. Maybe you find some solution yourself . Study it hard !  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bart.Jan @ April 17 2002,22:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I m not talking about team, but about the last abrams on a ctf map .... even you should know how important an abrams can be for a side  <span id='postcolor'> Yes, you are not talking about team. Why waste last abrams with one man ? Shouldn't be there at least 2 men ? And some infantry support if it's a last tank ? I got some material for you to study. Maybe you find some solution yourself . Study it hard !  <span id='postcolor'> Oh, OK Or maybe you can teach me everything you know ? Plzzzzzz Teach me cause i wanna learn from the best there is ! Maybe one day we meet on a map in sunny Everon and do our talking on the field It s no use trying to explain something against a supersoldier like yourself. CTF is mostly 5vs5 or even less .... so 1 abrams takes off 3 ... lets see, some troops too ... yeah ... 1 soldier as "support" for the abrams ... basedefense .... nah, dont need that ... so put 1 in a jeep to go round make a flagrun while the abrams pounds enemy base from a hill ... wow, suddenly CTF tactics have opened up for me ! THX !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart.Jan 0 Posted April 18, 2002 Easy man ! It was joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted April 18, 2002 Play nice, children, or i'll take off my belt! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 18, 2002 Sorry dad ! Bart.Jan, took my medicine now, i m better It s just i m not an editing god ( faaaaaaaaaar from that ) so i m very happy i made the support thing work on my map .... guess that shows a little So that s why i think its very usefull even in places where it isn t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted April 18, 2002 thats better. Bart.jan, mow the lawn. Jap, do the dishes. Your mom and i have an importaint shower to attend to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aculaud @ April 18 2002,09:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">thats better. Bart.jan, mow the lawn. Jap, do the dishes. Your mom and i have an importaint shower to attend to <span id='postcolor'> Don t you just love kids Thats spamming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted April 18, 2002 nah, thats not spam, thats continuing a joke in light of you and bart.jan kissing\making up. Back on the subject, what i can i do with a support waypoint!!?!?!?!?!?!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aculaud @ April 18 2002,09:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">nah, thats not spam, thats continuing a joke in light of you and bart.jan kissing\making up. Back on the subject, what i can i do with a support waypoint!!?!?!?!?!?!!<span id='postcolor'> You can let a unit go there, there it waits untill it is called to give unnecessary, lifedangering and waste of time-like ( is that a word ?? support to units that better die anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pathfinder 0 Posted April 18, 2002 In case I get shot down ,I always have a team of men and medics waiting to board a rescue chopper to support me. Need to have them go passive and fly high so at least if they get shot down someone might still get to me. But my little wars are diffrent from most peoples I always use the whole map and lots of troops on bothsides so the chances them getting to me on foot is a longshot. And for the wounded tank, I think a 1 to 2 man mechanic team would make a good addon. Just to fix minor problems. I hate when my tanks tread is damaged, and the whole tank is nothing but a turret or sitting duck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart.Jan 0 Posted April 18, 2002 I'm back from mowing the lawn and I did the dishes. I'll be a good boy, I promise ! Â </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Back on the subject, what i can i do with a support waypoint!!?!?!?!?!?!!<span id='postcolor'> Make support wp for medic (or ambulance), another for reapair,ammo and for fuel truck.If you are leader of group, and you have at least one man, you can use radio command status-call support-(medic/ammo/fuel/repair) (5-1-[1-4]) After your call support unit goes to your location. When it arrives you got a message. After you don't need support, you should give them message 5-1-5 (ready) so another commander should call them. Suppor can call every commander even AI. Main problem, for JAP ,is that support unit doesn't go back to its previous position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aculaud 0 Posted April 18, 2002 main problem for Aculaud is that i cant call just re-enforcements as a form of support Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bart.Jan 0 Posted April 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aculaud @ April 18 2002,11:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">main problem for Aculaud is that i cant call just re-enforcements as a form of support<span id='postcolor'> You must create script for this or you can place combat units together with supporting unit(s) so if you call medic whole group come to your aid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted April 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bart.Jan @ April 18 2002,10:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Main problem, for JAP ,is that support unit doesn't go back to its previous position.<span id='postcolor'> i know  That s a question i have in another topic. Except you have more commanders ofcourse, then the otherone can ask for support ( if he  s in a safe place that is ) Do you know a solution for this prob ?? /edit I also tried to put more on map, but only one reacts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
