Airibis 10 Posted June 30, 2009 Hello, As of now the ARMA 2 demo is very very laggy, im only getting 10 FPS none of the animations seem to work, when i shoot the gun recoils and bullet hits a second or two after hitting the fire button I am looking for a new video card, but don't want to break the bank. (would that fix my problems?) I seen a Radeon 4870 1gb for $129 my current specs OS: Vista 64bit CPU: Intel Quadcore Q6600 Ram: 8gb DDR2 800 video card: HIS HD 2600 512mb My monitor is a full 23" 1080 compatible monitor any suggestion for me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted June 30, 2009 I can't say that it would definitely fix all your problems but your card would struggle with arma and a 4870 should give you at least a 300% performance increase (most likely more) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airibis 10 Posted June 30, 2009 Thanks bulldogs what else would you recommend that I upgrade? I just put this system together 1 year ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madweegie 10 Posted June 30, 2009 Thanks bulldogswhat else would you recommend that I upgrade? I just put this system together 1 year ago ati 4890 :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted June 30, 2009 A cheap ATI HD3870 512MB ist enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted June 30, 2009 The vid card should be enough of an upgrade (sure, 4890's are good but the best part about the 4890 is that their release lowered the price for us cheap people) there's currently an issue with 8gb ram with arma 2. If you have problems after getting the new card, try running arma with 4gb of ram to see if the problem gos away, other than that you am Start the game with a -winxp switch that should help avoid such problems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaundiced 10 Posted June 30, 2009 i suggest strongly that you wait for another patch or two instead of wasting money. there are numerous threads in this board of people who upgraded only to be greeted with the exact same performance.. it is OBVIOUSLY a software issue, not hardware. be patient. save your money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skeptic 10 Posted June 30, 2009 2600, 3800 series are very underpowered for Arma2. If you want to enjoy the game today and in the next 6-12 month I'd highly suggest picking up 4870-4890 from ATI or GTX260 216SP from nVidia. After 1.02 hotfix patch I get very playable performance on high/normal with 4890. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaundiced 10 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) 2600, 3800 series are very underpowered for Arma2. If you want to enjoy the game today and in the next 6-12 month I'd highly suggest picking up 4870-4890 from ATI or GTX260 216SP from nVidia. After 1.02 hotfix patch I get very playable performance on high/normal with 4890. there are users on these boards that upgrade from 8800GTX to GTX260 to get the exact same performance. it's definitely prudent to give it some time before some of the performance oddities are sorted out... i.e. myself getting 20-21fps (and many others) regardless of settings (800x600 all low, or 3360x1050 all high / very high). highly irresponsible to be pushing people to new cards imho - at least until we've had one performance patch seeing so many of these issues make no sense from a hardware perspective. who knows - maybe in this situation it would benefit the OP. but I would definitely wait to see what performance is like post next patch before shoveling out money for new hardware. Edited June 30, 2009 by jaundiced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skeptic 10 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) there are users on these boards that upgrade from 8800GTX to GTX260 to get the exact same performance. it's definitely prudent to give it some time before some of the performance oddities are sorted out... i.e. myself getting 20-21fps (and many others) regardless of settings (800x600 all low, or 3360x1050 all high / very high). highly irresponsible to be pushing people to new cards imho - at least until we've had one performance patch seeing so many of these issues make no sense from a hardware perspective. who knows - maybe in this situation it would benefit the OP. but I would definitely wait to see what performance is like post next patch before shoveling out money for new hardware. I understand, but keep in mind 2600 and 3800 are really weak, 8800gtx and 8800gt could literally run circles around those two. Here's my info about Arma2 GPU performance (note that it didn't test CPU/AI). Low Med High Edited June 30, 2009 by Skeptic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
von_paulus 0 Posted June 30, 2009 I've just upgraded from a 8800GTS 512MB to a 4890 1GB and I noticed 50% of increased in performance. I tested with mission "Trial by Fire" which is my benchmark mission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaundiced 10 Posted June 30, 2009 I understand, but keep in mind 2600 and 3800 are really weak, 8800gtx and 8800gt could literally run circles around those two. I'm in no way doubting your expertise. I'm just trying to address the TC thinking a new video card will 'help ALL of my problems'. it appears that some sort of forced scaling is going on that is making it nearly impossible to truly benchmark the game relative to different cards. perhaps its time to upgrade for the TC, but that by no means will fix the problem - which is my main point ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skeptic 10 Posted June 30, 2009 perhaps its time to upgrade for the TC, but that by no means will fix the problem - which is my main point ;) Yep, you're right - something is going on with SP that caps frame rates... And new hardware won't fix those. Considering that most value of Arma lies in MP I still advice folks to get at least Dual Core CPU+4Gb Ram+ATI4850 or nVidia 250. Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimSpencer 10 Posted June 30, 2009 I've seen that you have a HD-monitor and most likely want to play in 1920x1080. I have a Radeon 4870 and from my personal experience, i must say that it is too weak for such a resolution. To achieve hig fps and smooth mouse-input in gfx-challenging places as forests, i can go only up to 1440x900. So i recommend you to go directly for a 4890 or even wait for the 58xx-series. Games are eating gfx-horsepower like hotdogs these days... regards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadrunner20 10 Posted June 30, 2009 i am quite suprised by the poor performance i get with my system as it quite new and manages to play most games very high and very good performance. e8400 3.0 watercooed, 4870 512mb 4gb ram vista 64. i manage to play normal settings on 1280x1024, though my monitor can go upto 1600x1200, which i have for most games apart from this one. this game i think needs optimising badly as it seems to get very poor performance from high end systems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimSpencer 10 Posted June 30, 2009 it needs optimazations, especially in multi-core-usage... but for graphics, i just think that our nowaday-cards are too weak for HD-resolution and AA in Arma2... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burrows 0 Posted June 30, 2009 id save and get nvidia. ever since i went to ATI it works with everygame but there is always some bug (e.g "flickering" bug, artifacts, etc) where as nvidia works almost flawlessly from what ive read. if you cant save up 40-70 more bucks (which shouldnt be hard since you already have 120) get a good 260 core 216 or maybe a 280. not sure if you can find a 280 for 200 bucks but you should be able to somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
triangle 10 Posted June 30, 2009 You might want to wait. As others mentioned, you might not get much return in terms of FPS from upgrading. I went from a 8800GTX w/786meg to a GX285 w/2gig (running on a Q9550 o'c to 3.3ghz and 4gig RAM) and gained only a few FPS at best. Other games, however, saw a huge leap in FPS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
