Military Technical data

[Sennacherib 0]

I tried to find some informations about a lot of subjects but with no success, maybe someone has the replies.

- how works the Elbit turret (gun, gun elevation ...) on the Piranha?

- how many RPG are needed to destroy an Austrian pandur or a Swiss Piranha IV?

- why vehicles are 6x6 or 8x8? (except the fact that the 8x8 can carry more soldiers)

[JdB 151]

- how many RPG are needed to destroy an Austrian pandur or a Swiss Piranha IV?

-Don't think you will find an answer to that, since "RPG" is a very general term, which is used to describe a lot of man portable AT weapons. In case you mean the RPG7, like many AT weapons, there are many different warheads available for this weapon, so it's impossible to tell. And that is besides taking local conditions, experience of the user and sheer luck into account.

[Sennacherib 0]

I meant the basic weapon. In fact, I just want to know the number that was originally planned, Manufacturers had to test shielding

[Supernova 0]

Depends on the actual ammunition being fired by the RPG-7V.

[Sennacherib 0]

the basic one

[Supernova 0]

PG-7V or PG-7VM would fit then.

[Sennacherib 0]

so with an rpg-7: how many rpg-7 a lav or a piranha can support before to be destroyed;

I just want an idea to put values in a cpp.

[da12thMonkey 1943]

Single RPGs have penetrated the armour of early generation Piranha vehicles.

Piranha IV's been developed with increased protection in mind but it'll probably still require the up-armour kit to shrug off a couple of RPG strikes and keep rolling. Putting bar armour around them like the US has done with Stryker, and the Aussies with ASLAV will probably remain the order of the day if there's a serious threat of anti-armour weapons since they're more effective against those specific threats.

Putting a specific figure on armour capabilities is very difficult since there are parts of the vehicle more vulnerable than others, and reports on such tests often indicate where vehicles are vulnerable. This makes such data an issue of OPSEC. Most personnel carriers have stated STANAG level effectiveness against bullets (up to 14.5 mm), artillery fragments and mines, not cannon rounds or AT weapons.

Dunno what the elevation and depression's like on the Elbit UT-25/30. Looking at the system, and others similar to it I'd estimate from 45 up to 60 degrees as a maximum elevation.

Number of wheels is basically determined by weight, stability and mobility required from the vehicle. The more wheels they have the better the mobility remains when a wheel is lost , however providing drive to a lot of wheels adds weight. 6*6 tends to be for light roles like recce and patrol vehicles, where ICVs are normally 8*8.

Have you made a Piranha IV? I'd be interested in seeing one in ArmA as the UK recently selected it as the baseline utility vehicle for FRES.

[echo1 0]

Best thing is to look up any accounts of the vehicle being used in action. Then again, its hard to come up with a value for armour in OFP/ArmA due to the rather unrealistic way it handles armour (hitpoint based, which doesnt take into account the fact that tanks like the challenger or Abrams can be hit with a dozen RPGs and still be operational)

[Sennacherib 0]

@da12thMonkey, thx, clear reply

Quote[/b] ]Have you made a Piranha IV?

not for the moment, I collect informations, about this kind of vehicles . (BTR90 (the BTR familly in general), Pandur, Piranha (all), EE-9 Cascavel, LAV-300, AMX-10rc with the new turret

i collect also informations about the turret: Elbit, Cockerill etc etc