ViciousLeeAramada 0 Posted February 24, 2002 a while back www.3dactionplanet.com/flashpoint/ stated that the VBS system is going to be realeased to the public but some people say they wont which is it and if they wont is there anyway they will release the vehicles to the public? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 25, 2002 There will be a puplic version i think but will be dumbed down for us the public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyvern69 22 Posted February 25, 2002 OFP IS the "public version" of VBS. We, the public, had OFP before the military did. The military took the game, and had BIS add more vehicles and more "realism", SOMETIMES based on classified data. BIS will sometimes give us, from VBS, certain new vehicles that were added to VBS, and certain weapons and other game modifications from VBS, as long as they don't give back ANY game elements that are based on classified military information. So OFP and VBS are almost the same exact thing! Except for the realism improvements for VBS, often based on classified military info. And the militaries networking code is probably optimized for their networking capabilities, which are much greater than our ability, when consumers are often still gaming with 56k modems. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted February 25, 2002 For God's sake! VBS is NOT A GAME! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt_Damage 0 Posted February 25, 2002 Yes and we wouldn't want to piss God off, or he'll send Christian soldiers with modified AK's to b*tchslap you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyvern69 22 Posted February 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Feb. 25 2002,06:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For God's sake! VBS is NOT A GAME!<span id='postcolor'> Hahahaha. Tell that to the Marines who are saying, "This is SOOOOOOO cool !!!". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Heyvern @ Feb. 25 2002,03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OFP IS the "public version" of VBS. We, the public, had OFP before the military did.<span id='postcolor'> Wellt hats a load of bullshit, VBS is a heavily modified version which will be ablle to load landscapes intop the game via satalite and the added bit will be able to to transform them into the game also the physics have been improved and alot of other stuff. Its rumoured we get features or an addon that will bring it upto the standard of VBS 1 such as the physics and the buildings that u can navigate. The marines dont even have the full version of VBS 1 only a demo version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted February 25, 2002 There will not be a public VBS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted February 25, 2002 Aprendimos a quererte Desde la histňrica altura Donde el sol de tu bravura Le puso un cerco a la muerte. Aquě se queda la clara La entrańable transparencia De tu querida presencia Comandante Che Guevara Tu mano gloriosa y fuerte Sobre la historia dispara Cuando todo Santa Clara Se despierta para verte. Vienes quemando la brisa Con soles de primavera Para plantar la bandera Con la luz de tu sonrisa. Tu amor revolucionario Te conduce a nueva empresa Donde esperan la firmeza De tu brazo libertario. Seguiremos adelante Como junto a ti seguimos Y con Fidel te decimos : "ˇ Hasta Siempre Commandante !" HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE COMMANDANTE CHE!!! ............................ i love your sig monkey but where did you read this load of bullshit about vbs ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted February 25, 2002 We learned to quererte From the histňrica height Where the sun of your fierceness put a wall to Him to the death. Aquě remains clear the close transparency Of your beloved is present at Commander Che Guevara Your glorious and strong hand On history shoots When all Santa Clara awakes for verte. You come burning the breeze With suns from spring to plant the flag With the light of your smile. Your revolutionary love leads to You to new company Where they wait for the firmness Of your libertario arm. We will follow ahead As next to you we followed and with Fidel we say to you: " Until Always Commandante " LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted February 25, 2002 please , keep it in spanish and stop with you fucking translators if you want to translate , ask to somebody who speak spanish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted February 25, 2002 I know it sucks, I just had to post it because it looks funny and I don't know anyone who speaks Spanish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted February 25, 2002 my mother has some spanish origins , but she doesn't speak spanish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthijs 40 Posted February 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Heyvern @ Feb. 25 2002,03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(...) The military took the game, and had BIS add more vehicles and more "realism" (...)<span id='postcolor'> You obviously didn't see the screenshot where aircraft are sitting ON an aircraft carrier. Ever tried to pull that trick in OFP? Placing a vehicle on top of another vehicle? Looks to me like they put at least ONE brand new feature into the game engine. It's not just about adding a new model or two and tweaking the stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyvern69 22 Posted February 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Monkey Lib Front @ Feb. 25 2002,19:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Heyvern @ Feb. 25 2002,03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OFP IS the "public version" of VBS. We, the public, had OFP before the military did.<span id='postcolor'> Wellt hats a load of bullshit,<span id='postcolor'> Sorry. You're wrong. It's NOT a load of BS. Everything I've said is TRUE. Operation Flashpoint came to the gaming community first, and the marines second. The marines are just taking what we had, and modifying it with new stuff that we DON'T have, sometimes based on classified info, sometimes not. Call it BS all you like, but you can't argue with all the liturature that has specifically said that the Marines didn't even try their "modified" version of OFP until several months after we all were playing OFP. http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/Forum57/HTML/001264.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyvern69 22 Posted February 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Matthijs @ Feb. 25 2002,20:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Heyvern @ Feb. 25 2002,03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(...) The military took the game, and had BIS add more vehicles and more "realism" (...)<span id='postcolor'> You obviously didn't see the screenshot where aircraft are sitting ON an aircraft carrier. Ever tried to pull that trick in OFP? Placing a vehicle on top of another vehicle? Looks to me like they put at least ONE brand new feature into the game engine. It's not just about adding a new model or two and tweaking the stats.<span id='postcolor'> I didn't mean ONLY new vehicles. I meant the military gets OFP, AND all kinds of new vehicles, weapons, AND FEATURES. That includes lots of stuff. Aircraft carriers. Improved fire support. Satellite data. Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. You guys are going a little too psycho literal. Relax, lower your blood pressure. Jeeeeez. Basically, it's the same game but the military has BILLIONS more dollars to spend than the consumer does, so NOW they get all kinds of kool new stuff before we do. We got the game first (OFP), but now the miltary gets all the cool new features, new vehicles, new weapons, and realism mods first, because the military has the big bucks, while we, the consumer, are only paying approx. 10 to 50 US dollars per box, depending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyvern69 22 Posted February 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Matthijs @ Feb. 25 2002,20:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Heyvern @ Feb. 25 2002,03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(...) The military took the game, and had BIS add more vehicles and more "realism" (...)<span id='postcolor'> You obviously didn't see the screenshot where aircraft are sitting ON an aircraft carrier.<span id='postcolor'> And YES, I did see the aircraft carrier. But I read that it wasn't pictures from VBS, it was pictures from OPERATION FLASHPOINT: Resistance, which is due out sometime in summer? We'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted February 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Heyvern @ Feb. 25 2002,22:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But I read that it wasn't pictures from VBS, it was pictures from OPERATION FLASHPOINT: Resistance, which is due out sometime in summer?<span id='postcolor'> No. The aircraft carrier pic is from Independence Lost, due some time towards year end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthijs 40 Posted February 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Heyvern @ Feb. 25 2002,20:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(...) You guys are going a little too psycho literal. Â Relax, lower your blood pressure. Â Jeeeeez. Â Basically, it's the same game but the military has BILLIONS more dollars to spend than the consumer does, so NOW they get all kinds of kool new stuff before we do. We got the game first (OFP), but now the miltary gets all the cool new features, new vehicles, new weapons, and realism mods first, because the military has the big bucks, while we, the consumer, are only paying approx. 10 to 50 US dollars per box, depending.<span id='postcolor'> Nope. Blood pressure is all fine. Just pointed it out. I don't think they will hold it all back for the military though. BIS is a commercial player, they need money. If thay can squeeze some more out of us by releasing a new engine, they most certainly will. We did get the game first. USMC is in fact going to use the OFP engine, so yes, we were first. But I do think there will be quite a few very nice features that they will come to see first. Do remember that USMC needs needs realistic handling, not some graphical wonder. Whatever. I just want Oxygen. If I have Oxygen, USMC can have models of Tauran spaceships for all I care. We 'll make models 10x as cool all by ourselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 25, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Feb. 25 2002,19:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE COMMANDANTE CHE!!! ............................ i love your sig monkey but where did you read this load of bullshit about vbs ?<span id='postcolor'> 1) Why thank you but i did not make it, if u hung around the DoD random nonsense you would know what its about. 2) i have been reading alot about it. 3) VBS 1 will be a pretty much new game based around the flashpoint engine, (dont gimme all that crap its like saying halflife is a mod of the quake engine) i mean look at the pyhsics in one screen shot shows you someone standing on the back of the ramp of a thing ma jig (that 1/2 plane/ helicopter thingy) thast one but there is loads i cant be arsed to write at the moment. 4) im pretty sure there is gonna be a public version that is dumbed down but with better GFX ie Resistance.( not saying resistance is VBS the public version for those who like taking things out of context. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyvern69 22 Posted February 26, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Feb. 25 2002,21:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No. The aircraft carrier pic is from Independence Lost, due some time towards year end.<span id='postcolor'> Sorry. Getting all my OFP products mixed up now. At least it's cool that there's so much stuff coming out, I AM getting mixed up. Gotta love this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyvern69 22 Posted February 26, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Matthijs @ Feb. 25 2002,22:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just want Oxygen. If I have Oxygen, USMC can have models of Tauran spaceships for all I care. We 'll make models 10x as cool all by ourselves.<span id='postcolor'> Looking forward to that too! I want to see anyone (BIS or modders using Oxygen) to create cool new aircraft, like a Littlebird with the soldiers on the sideboards, like in the movie "BlackHawk Down". I wish the realism in aircraft flight models, that are being put into VBS1, also get passed onto the OFP commercial product. I love flying the helos, but they could use some handling improvements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matthijs 40 Posted February 26, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Heyvern @ Feb. 26 2002,03:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wish the realism in aircraft flight models, that are being put into VBS1, also get passed onto the OFP commercial product.  I love flying the helos, but they could use some handling improvements.<span id='postcolor'> To be honest, I think the flight models in VBS will not be more realistic. It's more probable they will not even be 'played' by pilots. They have fully realistic Flight Sims for that. My guess is that VBS will be used to train officers in assualt tactics or maybe even strategic planning. It would really surprise me if flight personnel would actually control the aircraft. (that is... maybe @home, playing OFP with their friends.) I do agree with you, flight models should be better. It doesn't have to be "FS2000"-like real, but "Gunship"-like  real would be very nice. BeÄng Dutch, I'm looking forward to seeing a Navy Lynx or NH-90 in OFP. And, as always, I'm still waiting for the Russian Mi-26 HALO heliopter as a counter balance to the Chinook. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mi-26.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 26, 2002 Im sure the flight dynamics are better as they have put in a harrier so hopefully they are better cause look at the attempts at harriers now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mingus-USMC- 0 Posted March 1, 2002 The screen shot of the so called "aircraft carrier" looks more like an "LHA" (helicopter carrier). This is a Navy ship with a few hundred Marines, and equipment. <OBJECT CLASSID="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" WIDTH=360 HEIGHT=78><PARAM NAME=MOVIE VALUE=http://texasbaja.net/mingsig.swf><PARAM NAME=PLAY VALUE=TRUE><PARAM NAME=LOOP VALUE=TRUE><PARAM NAME=QUALITY VALUE=HIGH><EMBED SRC=http://texasbaja.net/mingsig.swf WIDTH=360 HEIGHT=78 PLAY=TRUE LOOP=TRUE QUALITY=HIGH></EMBED></OBJECT> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
