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[bluelaser 0]

HOLY SHIT!

If I'm not mistaken there is a SAW in that picture too. Either that or I'm too damn tired.

[hellfish6 7]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bluelaser @ Feb. 15 2002,01:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HOLY SHIT!

If I'm not mistaken there is a SAW in that picture too. Either that or I'm too damn tired.<span id='postcolor'>

It is indeed an M249 SAW.

Also, the following are on the screenshots:

CH-53E Sea Stallion

LAV-25

AAV-7A1

LHD-1 Tarawa Class Assault Ship

UH-1N Huey

AH-1W Sea Cobra

And if VBS1 (the USMC's OFP) is any indication, we may see the following too:

AAAV

V-22 Osprey

And if we're going to have Indonesians to fight (East Timor was very reluctantly given up by Indonesia), we may also see the following:

PT-76 amphibious tanks

A-4 Skyhawks

F-16 Falcons

various armored cars (mostly British Humbers and Soviet BTR-40s)

Saladin armored cars

[John C Flett 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And if we're going to have Indonesians to fight (East Timor was very reluctantly given up by Indonesia), <span id='postcolor'>

But is it only set in East Timor?

The newspaper says US pulls OUT of E.T. for Gulf Operation. It also has a headline about Australian involvement in peace keeping. So which force(s) does the game cover? US in Gulf or Aussies in Timor?

I do remember one interview saying it would feature Australian units ( since it was developed by the Australian studios ) but does anybody know for sure yet? It might be nice to have both.

[Gorgi Knootewoot 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's Sea Hawk or whatever it was called, I can't remember if that was really its name.<span id='postcolor'>

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It's not Sea hawk it's CH-46E Sea knight. It's smaller than the chinook, indeed.

Navy is using it.

Sea knight:

Seahawk is like blackhawk. Not the same:

<span id='postcolor'>

Cool, i like it.

[Guest]

I'm looking forward to the Sea Stallion, that'd be my copter in multiplayer games. It rocks

[Guest]

And if I'm not mistaken we will also get a Tiger Eurocopter (HAC?) Here's a pic:

And the M-249 Minimi SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon)

Here's a pic of that baby:

As for the Sea Stallion, we can get three versions, the CH-53 Sea Stallion, the MH-53E Sea Dragon or the MH-53J Pave Low III.

Here's a pic of the CH-53 Sea Stallion:

Here's a pic of the MH-53E Sea Dragon:

And here's a pic of the MH-53J Pave Low III:

[Damage Inc 0]

That last chopper is weird.

[Guest]

It's the Pave Low III. With mid-seats installed it can carry 53 passengers, without it can carry 37 passengers.

[Damage Inc 0]

That sounds like a lot, how much does the Chinook carry?

[Guest]

I think the Chinook carries around 22 (?) don't quote me on that though, I could be way off

[Damage Inc 0]

The Chinook has seating for 33 passengers.

http://www.boeing.com/rotorcraft/military/ch47d/ch47dspec.htm

[Guest]

Cool, thanks!

[Guest]

The MH-53E Sea Dragon is the biggest Western helicopter to date.

[Damage Inc 0]

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/aircraft/air-mh53.html

[Guest]

quote from fas-org:

"The newest military version of Sikorsky's H-53E/S80 series, the MH-53E Sea Dragon, is the Western world's largest helicopter. The MH-53E is used primarily for Airborne Mine Countermeasures (AMCM), with a secondary mission of shipboard delivery. Additional mission capabilities include air-to-air refueling, hover in-flight refueling, search and rescue, and external cargo transport operations, in both land and seaborne environments. The MH-53E was derived from the CH-53E Super Stallion and is heavier and has a greater fuel capacity than its ancestor. The MH-53s can operate from carriers and other warships. Sea Dragon is capable of carrying up to 55 troops or a 16-ton payload 50 nautical miles or a 10-ton payload 500 nautical miles. The MH-53E is capable of towing a variety of mine-sweeping countermeasures systems, including the Mk 105 minesweeping sleed, the ASQ-14 side-scan sonar, and the Mk 103 mechanical minesweeping system."

[Guest]

Man, I hope we get that MH-53E Sea Dragon! But it looks like we'll just get the normal CH-53 Sea Stallion .

[christophercles 0]

in viernam during an evacuation, a chinook managed to carry near 100 villagers (all standing and quished up) all by itself to saftey.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @ Feb. 15 2002,06:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HOLY SHIT!

If I'm not mistaken there is a SAW in that picture too. Either that or I'm too damn tired.<span id='postcolor'>

It is indeed an M249 SAW.

Also, the following are on the screenshots:

CH-53E Sea Stallion

LAV-25

AAV-7A1

LHD-1 Tarawa Class Assault Ship

UH-1N Huey

AH-1W Sea Cobra

And if VBS1 (the USMC's OFP) is any indication, we may see the following too:

AAAV

V-22 Osprey

And if we're going to have Indonesians to fight (East Timor was very reluctantly given up by Indonesia), we may also see the following:

PT-76 amphibious tanks

A-4 Skyhawks

F-16 Falcons

various armored cars (mostly British Humbers and Soviet BTR-40s)

Saladin armored cars<span id='postcolor'>

I remeber reading somewhere that this aint the public VBS 1 and if it was there would be no way we would have an osprey in there due to the fact the military are still testing it.

[P8ntM98 0]

I'd like to see an MV-22 it would be pretty cool to fly since its tilt rotor. I It would suck if IL was a seperate game, I'd like to use all units from OFP and IL in a mission editor.

[amos m 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (John C Flett @ Feb. 15 2002,17:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And if we're going to have Indonesians to fight (East Timor was very reluctantly given up by Indonesia), <span id='postcolor'>

But is it only set in East Timor?

The newspaper says US pulls OUT of E.T. for Gulf Operation. It also has a headline about Australian involvement in peace keeping. So which force(s) does the game cover? US in Gulf or Aussies in Timor?

I do remember one interview saying it would feature Australian units ( since it was developed by the Australian studios ) but does anybody know for sure yet? It might be nice to have both.<span id='postcolor'>

This confuses me also, as the East Timor incedent was handled almost entirely by Australia, but Australia doesn't have all those vehicles shown on the IL web page. I think that they must be trading realism and historic accuracy for more weapons, vehicles, units.

I'm not complaining though. I really wanna see more vehicles in ofp.

Also, I doubt that IL is going to be a seperate production. That would be stupid and illogical. It is being made by a division of BIS. It is using the same engine and ideas. Why would they release it as a seperate game.

[the nothing 0]

What the heck? This topic is a month old! Why did you just revive it?

[WTFonslaught 0]

I thought I read somewhere that in this "what-if" campaign that the ADF an NZ forces call in the USMC, after a fictional escalation.