Overclocking..is it really good??

[Blind Guardian 0]

Hello, i wonder if it will be very usefull(i mean, will i see any improvement?) to overcock my processor 533 celeron to 633? i have heard that celeron is overclocking without too much problems... but i want to be sure if what i am doing is right. Ans oh, please give me a link for an overclokc thanks !

[Vegabond 0]

overclocking next comp from 1.4 to 1.9.... using a watercooled cpu chip and water cooled geo force 3 card

[Mister Frag 0]

Few consumer-oriented systems can be overclocked at all, so whether this is even possible in your case isn't certain -- you'll have to post some detailed information about your system.

Overclocking can involve changing bus frequencies, altering voltages, changing memory timing, improving cooling and airflow, and a host of other things. Whether this is worth it is your call, you may be better off getting a whole new system.

To see what sort of improvement overclocking might yield, go to http://gamershq.madonion.com/products/orb/ and click on Processor Comparison. The results are for a synthetic DirectX 8 video benchmark called 3DMark2001, and it will let you compare the scores for similar systems, so you can see what systems with a Celeron 533 and 633 get using your video card.

Also, try visiting http://www.hardocp.com/ for information and tutorials on overclocking.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

got my A7V266 1.4 gihz at 1.65ghz, all i need was a BIOS update and a better 1.7 ghz range cooler master heat sink, then I added another case fan

works sweet

266 FSB is now at 311 or so mhz and I now use PC2400 Ram (300 mhz) for adding stabilty, the PC2100 did not O/C what so ever so i had to go with the PC2400

[Blind Guardian 0]

tks btw my my comp is an intel celeron 533 192 ram and a small 10 gig hdd and what else do you need to know ?

[Fishu 0]

Just kick in 100mhz FSB for celeron and it goes good.

I have Cel 566 which I used to run at 850mhz.

Though, recently replaced it with AMD's XP1600+

[Gamer 10]

I'm using a 1.4 o/c'ed to 1.53 with PC2100, FSB is @ 146... (292mhz data rate)

the only real modifications I made were to install a bigger heatsink and rigged it with a 80x80x25mm fan.....

then to enhance performance even further I removed the stock fan on my vid card and installed the fan that I took off the original HSF (heatsink & fan) from the CPU.

I can now get my GF3 to overclock to 260 core 558 memory  (first generation GeForce 3)

But I normally run the card @ 240/550

AMD 1.4 266fsb

Gigabyte GA-7DX mobo

384mb pc2100

ASUS v8200 GF3

IBM Deskstar H.D.

(Edited by Cpt Gamer FtK at 1:04 pm on Dec. 27, 2001)

[Mister Frag 0]

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tks btw my my comp is an intel celeron 533 192 ram and a small 10 gig hdd and what else do you need to know ?

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At the very least, we need to know what motherboard and chipset you have. As I said before, consumer-oriented motherboard usually don't give you any control over the FSB speed etc., so you may not be able to overclock the system.

[Blind Guardian 0]

well what i know is that my motherborad is an intel 810 and i have only 3 PCI slot and 2 slot for the ram. The case is not very big, (i can carry it with my games, mouse and keyboard..) So im still confused in overclocking and i dont have any water cooler or whatever radiator you can imagine so will it harm the system too much to overclock 100 mhr ??

[Fishu 0]

I had cel 566 running at 850mhz (100mhz FSB) with titan majesty cooler.

temperature increase when overclocked was just 4-5C more.

(~41-43C with normal clocks and 45-48C when overclocked)

It helps if your motherboard displays temperature.

Though, seeing the video by Tomshardware, where is shown what happens to overheating CPU's, showed that Intel CPU's quit working at high temperature and worked again after temperature decreased, where as AMD CPU's literally got smoked.

In that case if Intel really just 'quits working' before melting, you're pretty safe to try 100mhz FSB.

Also this really isn't big thing for Celeron II, at least those do overclock pretty good (especially 566/600mhz versions what I know well)

[Blind Guardian 0]

ok tks btw could you give me the link you got for your overclock ?

[RN Malboeuf 12]

for a7v boards goto

http://www.a7vtroubleshooting.com/

or

http://www.k7v.com/

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Okay, you see you get all these comments here of people that just want to tell you about what they did! Now that you dont need. Here comes my proposal: All you need is a simple modern overclocking software (that you can get for free) the most know one is PowerStrip which is easy to use and well applied. You can check it out without taking great risk. However take the advises you get by the Software seriously otherwise -----Bang------ !!!

Dont even think about changing the cooler system cause that is not a simple as you think (my old PC had a water-cooling-system which a friend of mine bought in a Aquarine Shop (where you can buy fish for your Aquarium).

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Ah, I forgot. YOu can download it for free or get a new version in one of the million computer-magazine CD´s

[RN Malboeuf 12]

ok lol, pls dont do this

not many have "water cooled" cpu fans

we just can't explain every thing, that would be a hour long post

it took us hours of testing to o/c our machines

it's not for the ill equipted

best take your time, learn things as they come by exploring sites, do a search on then, if you don't o/c for a month then by god don't o/c for a month

most cases of o/c are just not that much of a boost

I got 242 more mhz on top of my 1407 mhz machine

I don't see any differences with the naked eye

just braging rights

[Blind Guardian 0]

Alright tks all and ill check some sites too

[Fishu 0]

I can see difference in Celeron 566 getting 850mhz

It's fairly huge, if theres good video card.

Not much of a profit with TNT2, but after I bought ATI Radeon, there was huge difference between default and overclocked performance.

Anyway.. theres no need for software.

Just goes into bios at the first screen at boot (usually 'del' key) and raise FSB from celerons default 66mhz to 100mhz.

However I hear there can be problems with 83mhz FSB, so I don't recommend that specific mhz.

(Edited by Fishu at 7:19 am on Dec. 29, 2001)

[Mister Frag 0]

Whether software is needed depends entirely on his system and the features of the BIOS it has. Consumer-oriented systems don't let you change the FSB speed, there is too much potential for problems with the average user.

[Blind Guardian 0]

only that simple ?? sounds cool and if you said it run better with a radeon ;P well i have an radeon 32 mg ddr i hope it will work great ! tks man !

[Blind Guardian 0]

dam well ill check it out

[Blind Guardian 0]

i have a phoenix bios 4.0 something like that, and i haven't see any default fsb.. or well in what kind of "category" i should find it ??

-Boot

-power

-system

[RN Malboeuf 12]

each BIOS is different, and it might not even say FSB

could say internal clock, or just mhz

look for any thing that says

66mhz, or, 100 mhz, or 133 mhz, (200, 266 re the newer machines)

there could be no setting what so ever for the it in the BIOS, it may use jumpers, locked BIOS will not display them at all, but the jumpers should be there, depends on the MB

you need a few things

1) Mother board type

2) current BIOS

3) current FSB (should match the speed of your memory)

4) user manual ( many are on the net)

5) latest BIOS

6) flash tool/program to install BIOS

7) 1.44 floopy to boot flash program and have the new BIOS on it

8) Need to know if there are Dip Switch or BIOS settings if they are used (both get the same results, and one or the other may not work this is the HARD part)

8a) FSB frequency (ie 100, 105 up to 300+ mhz ect)

8b) voltage supplied to processor (V core)

8c) multipier, this is a toughie (FSB (100mhz) X Multipier (8) = 800 mhz (if you changed the muti to 10 then you get 1000 mhz so this means there are two different ways to o/c this is the harder but better one to do), many case it's not possible with out new hard ware like a goldfinger device

9) better cooler fan, more case fans

10) temperiture gauge, might not need it, most likely dont have one, cheep to buy eas to install - need the manualfor info on this, most just plug in and then place the other end under the processor, not betwen fan and processor

I'm sure i missed a few things, as you can see you have to really start with your MB type, then do searches on the net where other ppl have o/c'd them, and then really read every little thing they posted

like I said, make sure you understand each of these steps and what they are for your MB, do little steps and test for stability, don't just o/c 200 more mgz or you will blow the procossor and mabey the MB and other things too, rare but it happens

I waited for a new larger ATX Case (free for me i don't pay for then since I own a store), the new case had 3 places for Case fans (actually you can buy these 5.25 power fans that fit in the CDrom slots wicked - i have 2 but not powered up just yet)

my old case only had 1 place for a cpu fan so i had to wait to really o/c

also if you runs a 30 - 80+ 7200 RPM fan you should have a fan on it as well

take your time, if it takes a month so be it

[RN Malboeuf 12]

past that none of us can help you any more (unless we have that MB and oc'd it), you need to seek other users of you MB that have oc'd it

a gaming forum is not the place to seek this type of help

[WisdoM 1]

You can't unlock the multiplier on Intel chips The L1 Cache is buried in the chip itself You only hope for OCing a Intel is FSB. You are going to need a better Heatsink, I suggest the ALPHA PAL8045 with the delta fan(39CFM) and grab some Arctic SilverII thermal grease while you're at it, I dropped my temps by 5c just by adding arctic silverII You will also need High Quality RAM, so it can withstand the OC, thats why I'm guessing Mal's didnt OC well at PC2100, he must have either had a bad batch or a s**tty RAM. When buying good RAM Crucial or Corsair are really the only way to go, or Mushkin. But I suggest Crucial, as it's just slightly lower on the Quallity scale under Corsair, Corsair being the best. Depeding on which board you have and BIOS all depends on how oyu will OC it. After a certain bumping on teh FSB, your dividers will kick in, so you're PCI and AGP slots dont work out of range, at what point they kick you will have to find out. Also most newer boards go up by 1MHz increemnts, after you bump up the FSB a little do a burn in of SiSoft Sandra to see if oyu're system is stable, then bump it up a little more and do it again. keep doing it til your system becomes unstable, then you will know where your limit is, and once oy hit that limit, trying up the Vcore on your proc, and the voltage on your RAM, then up it a lil more and Do the burn in again It's a complicated process, and I dont really suggest OCing it to only 655, cuz you will gaion no extra performance, that Celeron could reach atleast 1GHz with the proper coling and right settings.

[WisdoM 1]

BTW I got my AMD Athlon 1500+(1.33GHz) all the way up to 1.727GHz (157 * 11) thats agreat OC