Russian terror attack twarted - Mine laden car

[SpecOp9 0]

1,000?

I would have done it for a mil

[GoOB 0]

1,000?

I would have done it for a mil

This is Russia, it has come a long, long way. But is still very corrupt indeed. There are stories about people that have to pay the paramedics cash-in-hand to actually do their job when on scene.

[Badassdom 0]

and the stories are very true

if i can believe the russians if met

[svendejong 0]

Quote[/b] ]At least they got this one. As for the driver, good riddance to bad rubbish.

I really dont get how you can be happy when someone dies in 'police' custody.

[Tovarish 0]

The only difference between this and what goes on in Guantanamo is who's doing it. As far as you know this Russian prisoner had nothing to do with Chechen bombs. You're just taking the Russian's word for it. If Americans were involved in this you'd be all over the internet looking up .orgs who say otherwise and taking their word for it.

Fs, your opinion of my bias is bullshit. If Osama bin Laden ever gets caught by the US I truly hope you cut his balls off and shove them down his eye sockets. Same goes for anyone willfully targetting American, Israeli, Russian, Ruwandan, and yes, Chechen civilians.

The driver must have at the very least suspected what the contents of the car were if he was paid that much to park it and then another on the same street. Especially with the currtent atmosphere in Russia and recent events. If he chose to ignore the obvious or if he knew for sure, it makes little difference.

This is not in any way the same as rounding up men randomly and brutalizing them because a percentage of them may be terrorists, or invading a country under false pretences.

[FSPilot 0]

Ok, I take it back.  I don't think you're biased in this situation Tovarish.  But I am still pretty shocked at the overall international reaction.  If the US did this there would be court martials and protests.  I haven't heard anything abou this since the original article came out.

Quote[/b] ]This is not in any way the same as rounding up men randomly and brutalizing them because a percentage of them may be terrorists, or invading a country under false pretences.

My point is (well, was) that you were just taking their word for it.  The Yahoo! story's only sources were the Russians.  Russian security officials, Russian duty officers, no outside sources.

[Tovarish 0]

My point is (well, was) that you were just taking their word for it. The Yahoo! story's only sources were the Russians. Russian security officials, Russian duty officers, no outside sources.

Well, if you want to take that attitude with Russian sources, then for all you know the incident never even took place.

[CrackerJack 0]

Sorry pilot, Im really really tired. Thought you where talking about something else

[FSPilot 0]

I'm not talking about the Russian press, I'm talking about the Russian police.

[theavonlady 2]

About that "heart attack":

Quote[/b] ]Moscow Police Intercept Car Bomb, Suspect Beaten to Death

Created: 20.09.2004 10:16 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 13:12 MSK

MosNews

Moscow police intercepted a car packed with explosives in central Moscow on Saturday and said they had thwarted a terrorist attack, Russian media reported.

Police found a 200-gram block of TNT, two anti-personnel landmines and a 20-liter canister with gasoline along with detonators and an electronic operating device in an old Lada.

A suspect arrested at the scene told investigators he was offered $1,000 to take the car to a major thoroughfare President Vladimir Putin uses to travel to and from the Kremlin, news agencies and television said, quoting security forces. The Kommersant daily has cited an unnamed source in the law enforcement agencies as saying that the suspect, whose name was reported as Pumane was a Russian naval officer on a submarine.

The daily also reported that the car in which the explosives were found was registered in the name of a woman who supposedly was a wife of a Chechen rebel.

Pumane died in hospital six hours after questioning. Initial reports said the man had suffered a heart attack, but shortly afterwards it was reported that he had bean beaten to death, apparently during the interrogation.

Interfax news agency reported that prosecutors had started an investigation into crimes of “exceeding professional authority†and “causing grievous bodily harm, leading to deathâ€, after a post-mortem examination showed the man had been beaten and had not suffered a heart attack, as initially reported.

Polls show that Russians have a very low opinion of the police and security services, blaming them for failing to prevent a rise in terrorism and accusing them of being corrupt and unprofessional.

The incident was prominently reported on television newscasts following a string of attacks by Chechen rebels in recent weeks.

These have included a school siege in southern Russia during which more than 320 hostages died, and near-simultaneous twin plane crashes that killed 90 people.

[turms 0]

What was funny is that it turned out it was not mr Pumanes body in the morgue...

[theavonlady 2]

What was funny is that it turned out it was not mr Pumanes body in the morgue...

Abra-Cadavre!

[turms 0]

From the same newssite

Quote[/b] ]Investigators decided to run DNA tests after Pumane’s ex-wife and several friends failed to identify his body at a Moscow morgue. They also said that Pumane may have worked for Interpol, as he was carrying an Interpol ID.

weird stuff