Found Bug : ATi Radeon 9600 256mb (Saphire)

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

I had this with a Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9600 using the Cat 4.7 driver.

It ran ok in OFP until you loaded larger mods/addon collections it fell over, either CTD or Green screen error. Even with 1.96 and -nomap. I came to the conclusion that the card is just crap

Sorry not very helpful but at least it does confirm your diagnosis of your card being duff.

[Dark-TM- 0]

I had this with a Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9600 using the Cat 4.7 driver.

Did you try whit other Drivers ?

Geez I'm sooooo happy now. I just wasted 167$ of my Hard-Earned bucks. -_-

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

4.7 - Still doesnt like Tonal gets D3D Error - Out of Memory

4.6 - The card was stable and ok right upto loading Tonal/Large Mods then either an "Out of Memory/D3D error" or a CTD.

4.5 - "Greenscreen" error

4.3 - D3D Error or "Greenscreen" error

I will say it worked fine for everything else but only had a problem with LARGE ofp addons packs.

I kinda lost interest at that point and sent it back saying it wouldnt work with my equipment.

The only thing i can think of is that there is some inconsistancy with Sapphire and Asus boards - I was using an A7V8X-X with a Barton 2500+ and XP Pro.

Is there anyone you can ask to put the card in their machine to see if it works?  When I was having problems I asked around on some of the kit forums and a number of people had the same card with no problems - admittedly they didnt say that they played OFP.

Failing that try the line: "It wont work with my equipment and software - therefore its not fit for use." I dont know what the consumer laws are where you are but its gotta be worth a try?

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AGP Aperture size is set to 128mb or less? Without intending to insult your intelligence are you positive the -nomap parameter is in correctly? Have you tried uninstalling and installing again patching up to 1.96? Tried mod folders?

[Dark-TM- 0]

AGP Aperture size is set to 128mb or less?

how to set/change this ?

-nomap is on and -nosplash also.

and I have no addons.

[Mister Frag 0]

The only way to change this is through the BIOS. If you have a consumer-oriented PC such as a Dell, the BIOS may not allow you to change it.

Otherwise, try pressing DEL, F2, or F12 immediately after turning on or rebooting your PC, or look for a message somewhere on the screen that indicates how to enter the BIOS setup mode. In some BIOSes like the American Megatrends BIOS used by Gigabyte, you then need to press another key (Ctrl F1) to reveal advanced options.

[Dark-TM- 0]

I got a Custom PC.

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

OK on startup you'll get the BIOS screen (Black with white text) Will say "Press Del to enter config" or similar.

Press the 'Del' key until your bios config screen appears.

Usually there is a menu.

Standard

Advanced Features

Chipset Features

HD Detect

...etc.

In one of there sections will be an option to change your AGP Aperture size. Turn is down to 128 if its higher, else reduce it and see what happens.

You must save your settings on the menu before rebooting.

Good luck.

[Dark-TM- 0]

I got

-Advanced

-Chip Configuration

-Graphic Aperture at 64mb (should I make it 128mb?)

Got Windows XP Pro.

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

Go for it...you can always change it back later if it all goes pear shaped.

[Dark-TM- 0]

Geez always having Problems...

[Dark-TM- 0]

It's the Videocard right ?

I did

-The AGP Thing.

-The Motherboard Drivers.

-Unstall/Reinstall Videocard Drivers

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

It looks like it...

But, just clarify a few things a couple of questions:

Does the pc crash with anything else?

When it crashes does it just CTD or come up with a corrupted colour splash etc?

Since you installed the card have you tried getting OFP to autodetect the setup in the preferences? (You never know )

As for the drivers etc. As long as you have the latest graphics drivers, AGP port driver for your motherboard you should be OK. If it still CTD's I'd be inclinded ot say it was the card mucking you about.

Can you ask anyone else to test it for you on another machine with a different mainboard/config?

[Dark-TM- 0]

Just tryed the Omega Drivers and it....

Dosen't work.

Gonna try to get a Change/Refund.

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

Ok mate, atleast you tried! Just avoid Spahhire I have to admit I wont buy another one.

[turms 0]

well i have sapphire 9600xt with no problems at all.. so tell me again, does it crash with other games also? have you checked the temperatures of your machine?

[Mister Frag 0]

well i have sapphire 9600xt with no problems at all.. so tell me again, does it crash with other games also? have you checked the temperatures of your machine?

According to one of his posts on the previous page the problem isn't limited to OFP, all games crash:

Quote[/b] ]Nevermind. It's my Bloody Videocard.

All of my Games crash now.

The other thing I would try is lowering the AGP transfer rate. Set it to 1x to see if the problem goes away, and if it does, raise it over time to 2x, 4x, then 8x (if supported) until the problem reappears.

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

From the sound of it all i think hes done as much as he can (or is willing ot do). I found my problem was mostly limited to OFP but others seem to have had problems with this card before.

Ebuyer Feedback - This is where I got mine from and while the majority of people that bothered to add feedback 3 or 4 are/have had serious problems.

If you take a look at the Hardware geek sites (no link atm) they arent very nice about the card. No one seems to come up with a conclusive theory why these seem to work for some and not others but the popular choice is to ignore the 9600 and got for the 9600Pro or better.

Given the odds and the amount of time you've spent faffing about I'd try and get it swapped for something else.

Only my opinion though.

[turms 0]

Quote[/b] ]others seem to have had problems with this card before

I really havent seen 9600 related issues on this forum(dont know of other forums though) anymore than gforce xxxx issues, or other radeon cards in general.. There are few OFP bugs wich can be repaired, but i doubt that there would be a problem with ofp and 9600 sapphire.

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@ July 27 2004,21:00)]ASUS A7V333

Is it the A7V333 or A7V333-X?

IIRC Asus has a pretty handy windows based app for updating the bios, you've download/installed the latest version? What about the Via 4in1 drivers, which version of them do you have? The latest VIA Hyperion drivers are 4.51, give them a try

[Dark-TM- 0]

@ July 27 2004,21:00)]ASUS A7V333

Is it the A7V333 or A7V333-X

IIRC Asus has a pretty handy windows based app for updating the bios, you've download/installed the latest version? What about the Via 4in1 drivers, which version of them do you have? The latest VIA Hyperion drivers are 4.51, give them a try

It's the A7V333 Vanilla.

Got the VIA Drivers also.

I also got a Volcano 9 360watt and 2 Fans.

[Dark-TM- 0]

Given the odds and the amount of time you've spent faffing about I'd try and get it swapped for something else.

Don't have any money left...

and those other cards costs about 100$ more. -_-

[Dark-TM- 0]

-Tryed Cat's 4.7.

-Tryed Cat's 4.6.

-Tryed Omega Cat's 4.7.

-Reinstall Game's 5 Times.

-Format 2 Times.

-Install VIA 4-in-1 drivers.

-Install VIA PCI latency patch.

-Install ASUS A7V333 New Drivers.

-Install Logitech Mouse New Drivers.

-Tryed Setting AGP Graphic Aperture to 64mb and 128mb

-Unstalled/Installed Drivers 11 Times.

-Lowered Resolution and Refresh Rate.

-Lower Sound Acceleration

What does it do

-CTD (Crash to Desktop).

-Fatal Errors.

Happens

-When Playing Videogames

Tested on the Following Games

-OFP (Operation Flashpoint)

-UT2004 (Unreal Tournament 2004)

-BF42 (Battlefield 1942)

-BFV (Battlefield : Vietnâm)

-DOD (Day of Defeat)

-CS (Counter-Strike

-CSCZ (Counter-Strike : Condition Zero)

-HL (Half-life)

My PC Specifications

-AMD Athlon 2000xp + (1733mhz)

-1024 DDR/333 PC2700 Kingston Ram

-Sapphire ATi Radeon 9600 256mb (non-XT) (non-Pro)

-Windows XP Profesionnal

-60 GIG's Maxtor Hard-Drive

-ASUS A7V333

-Volcano 9 360watts

-2 Fans

Worked Great whit my old

-ATi Radeon 8500LE 128mb

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Verdict : I am getting the Pro Version

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Any chance you can try your card in another PC? Only other thing I might suggest (if feasible) is a format and complete install from scratch, obviously that's a major hassle but good to do every once in a while

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

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Verdict : I am getting the Pro Version  

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LMAO Ok...methinks that card doesnt like your system no matter what we suggest....so...i think its perfect justifcation for upgrading