MINIGUN 0 Posted November 7, 2003 BAS have from BI Studio all mlod models what they want.I want to all modelers have this models!!!They can be uploaded to breathe.Its not a problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rbeni12 0 Posted November 7, 2003 BAS have from BI Studio all mlod models what they want.I want to all modelers have this models!!!They can be uploaded to breathe.Its not a problem Sorry... I meant the tool. from Ramo and FlipeR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AirwolfPL 0 Posted November 7, 2003 BAS have from BI Studio all mlod models what they want.I want to all modelers have this models!!!They can be uploaded to breathe.Its not a problem They have not. Stop whining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MINIGUN 0 Posted November 7, 2003 They have not. Stop whining. so where they get ,oh58, brdm, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jacobaby Posted November 7, 2003 hard work and skilled coders, not necessarily part of BAS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted November 7, 2003 D'uh... here we go, some form of official statement (I suppose) We [bAS] DO NOT get our MLOD models from BIS. We have close contacts with FlipeR (from the OFPInternals team) and he has access to P3DEdit. This is how we get our MLODs, we cannot have every model, or any model. The conversions are far from perfect, as far as I know the tool was still in early Alpha stages when development was canceled. At the stages of development that the Addons community is at now, having such a tool would be a step backwards, not forwards. I'd just like to finish this statement by saying we [bAS] DO NOT have direct access to this tool, and it takes us a long time to fix the models we do get. Please DO NOT start emailing us requests for models, as they will simply be ignored, since we cant actually forfil them anyway. There, now you know all about our apparent "MLOD deal", which is infact just the rumour mill at its best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted November 7, 2003 I take it all back, Oh and Thanks for that Ah-1 model that had the Cockpit from the Ah-1 that was in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted November 7, 2003 Not totally true, but who doesnt modify? Afterall arent we just modifying the game?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted November 7, 2003 Oh and Thanks for that edited Ah-1 model that was from the game as well. Actually, the AH-1 was NOT in anyway in-game content. The model was all Eviscerators work, the textures Tigershark's. As stated in the readme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted November 7, 2003 I take it all back, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted November 7, 2003 Well there is a difference when editing content as to makeing new from scratch addons. Littlebirds - from scratch MH-60s - from scratch KLR - from scratch SOAR - from scratch (well, nearly, only 2 lods from BIS models were used for the lowest resolution, and the memory) Updated De/Ra (yes you dont have them yet) but the new models are from scratch care to go on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted November 7, 2003 I take it all back, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted November 7, 2003 Straight from the readmes: LittleBirds: Quote[/b] ]DESIGN TEAM=========== Original Model: Drakkhen Original Concept R&D: Scorpio, Fliper Model Improvements: SelectThis, Tigershark AH-6/MD500 Models: SelectThis (using improved Drakkhen model) Textures: SelectThis, Tigershark MH-60's: Quote[/b] ]Models by SelectThis Textures by Ebud Scripts by TJ, rom Special thanks to Deadmeat and Evis KLR: Quote[/b] ]DESIGN TEAM =========== Project Coordinators: Skaven, SelectThis Modeling and Mapping: Wetwork,SelectThis Modeling (Only): Frandsen, Eviscerator, Vixer Mapping (Only): DeadMeat Textures: Ebud ,Skaven SOAR: Quote[/b] ]Models by SelectThis Textures by Ebud Scripts by TJ, rom Special thanks to Deadmeat and Evis Updated De/Ra Cant say yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted November 7, 2003 Look man Im sorry for the BS,So I have deleted all the BS.I dont want to argue with anybody in the Flashpoint community.So ill stop.It hard to admitt it when your in the wrong,So I do admitt that I am in the wrong.Sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted November 7, 2003 Thankyou for being so gracious NZX, but I felt I had to prove the point. Yes whilst some of our work is modified BIS models, a lot of it is not. 99% of Tonal is ours, no BIS at all, yes the OPFOR vehicles are BIS, and the base soldier models, but you must appreciate that the vast majority of BAS work is original. And that modifying these models is not often very easy, for the MH-47 the model went through about 5 re-edits before beta, and the update has had even more edits... Even FDF uses BIS models, otherwise work from both teams would take much much longer too come out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 8, 2003 I agree in general it would be a step backwards. However...there's a couple of things that would be handy to know (named properties, memory points etc). But as for the quality of models...I think the community is doing very well. Go back and look and the original CWC stuff.....I know plenty of people in the community would abuse someone if they released work of that quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted November 8, 2003 This Mlod tool or what ever you want to call it.Would be something that would allow everyone to edit each others models.And maybe export them to something else other than Flashpoint.People might even touch up the detail and sell them.But,Some people dont want people to do this with certain models.So this means that they wont release there addons to the public.No biggy i guess, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rbeni12 0 Posted November 8, 2003 Hi guys only roma could help us who has hidden from everyone don't have the tool , so I will make a review and make it public... or the others..!! like FlipEr ; Triger ; a-lone-wolf who has the tool , and bis said they will release the m2a2 but it's just a blah blah! I spent a month for this, but no results... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BraTTy 0 Posted November 9, 2003 I don't need the models, but I would like some information from some. I don't care if Bas has tools or not, whatever information they have had ,they have given in a professional manner (international soldier) Even if they have tools ,they can't/won't be the ones resonsible for giving to the public i'm sure.Bis doesn't want everyone tearing their models apart, i think some of the reasons are: People would make multiple versions of their addons,some buggered and some prolly interfering with the original addons. Somebody could spend alot of time reworking their originals and possibly even making the originals look poor compared and maybe even make the game look outdated Some of the work of their own models may have been contracted and within some limits of use People would steal their work and call it their own (already happens of course) They may have/had plans of addon packs for retail I understand somewhat why they havent given us models,its been a few years now anyways,I would still like some information from a few models Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rbeni12 0 Posted November 9, 2003 I don't  need the models, but I would like some information from some.I don't care if Bas has tools or not, whatever information they have had ,they have given in a professional manner (international soldier) Even if they have tools ,they can't/won't be the ones resonsible for giving to the public i'm sure.Bis doesn't want everyone tearing their models apart, i think some of the reasons are: People would make multiple versions of their addons,some buggered and some prolly interfering with the original addons. Somebody could spend alot of time reworking their originals and possibly even making the originals look poor compared and maybe even make the game look outdated Some of the work of their own models may have been contracted and within some limits of use People would steal their work and call it their own (already happens of course) They may have/had plans of addon packs for retail I understand somewhat why they havent given us models,its been a few years now anyways,I would still like some information from a few models if you want information on the model , you can it's possible contact a-lone-wolf! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites