InqWiper 0 Posted August 14, 2003 Since noone else wanted to start a new thread I thought I should. This one is about weapons politics and war politics and all that other offtopic stuff from the original thread  All attacks are welcome, not just against the US  Quote[/b] ]My. I leave for a few hours and see how the topic has deteriorated. I think the real issue here should be Bush's reversal of the decades of arms containment. New nukes, mini-nukes, energy weapons, SDI, Gamma-Ray bombs, huge military spending increases to the detriment of other, more worthwhile and needy programs. Bush is producing weapons that's main purpose seems to be the mass killing of large populations with minimal enviromental impact. Bravo. But when was the last time terrorists gathered in a group large enough to justify a Gamma-Ray bomb? When was the last time a terrorist launched an ICBM at the US? When was the last time a terrorist hold-up in a bunker requiring a mini-nuke? They hide in caves and amongst the population. Half these programs, given under the auspicious of "protection from terrorism" would have absolutely no effect on terrorist M.O. Bush is building Weapons Of Mass Aggression. That is the only reason for the weapons and their associated by-products and systems. I personally don't want my country to be the next Napoleanic France, or Nazi Germany. Attacking and killing under the flag of expansion and harvesting of resources, people too scared to raise a voice in protest. You don't think it is happening? Take a look around. The main problem with my fellow American's being the instant defensiveness that comes with criticism of a flawed foreign policy that states the world wants to be like us. The problem isn't our COUNTRY. The problem is the administrations. The problem is the mindset I see is still prevalent in some of the posts here. Our country is by far better than the way it has acted. I think the Onion article says it best, and is sadly too true.  "New Bomb Capable Of Making 10,000 New Terrorists" Get Bush and cronies the hell out of Washington before a new Imperialism takes control. And I guarentee it won't be good for this country. You sound smart Akira, are you sure you are american? Because it would be a shame if I had to hate you  Quote[/b] ]The problem isn't our COUNTRY. The problem is the administrations. I really agree with this. It seems to me that when people criticise the US many americans feel personally attacked. Maybe this is partially becuase people who criticise the US (myself) says it in a bad way so it sounds like we criticise all the american people. I personally have nothing at all against americans as a people, I just dont like how the country is acting right now, wich is more the leaders fault than the people. I know many americans dont agree with how the US is acting either so therefore I have nothing against them. I belive the US wants to do the right thing, even the leaders, it just isnt so easy. I dont really agree with many of the politicians in my country either but we are just destroying our own country so you just let us destroy it alone and dont criticise please  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted August 14, 2003 Quote[/b] ]If you want, make another thread about how much you hate Ameirca and love terrorists. I dont hate america and I dont love terrorists, I never said either of that. Quote[/b] ] You're buying into the idea that the US is the great satan because that's all you hear. Only the terrorists belive this and they will continue beliving it until you convince them that is not the case, wich you havent been close to yet. Bombs are not convincing. Quote[/b] ]Think about it. Â You never see any news reports about the food we drop on Afghanistan every day. Â You only hear about it until we accidentally hit someone's house with a canister.You never see the thousands of missions that go flawlessly and make the terrorist's job a little harder, you hear about the one that ends up hurting a civilian who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Â This is why people hate the US, they only hear the bad things. I agree that it sucks that this is almost true but on the other hand the US has done, is doing and will do alot of shit that we dont know about also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Gripe 0 Posted August 15, 2003 Are you having a discussion by yourself or can anyone join in? Are you schizophrenic Inqwiper?!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted August 15, 2003 I made this thread so everyone could use it and save the other thread. Appearantly its more fun to go offtopic in the original thread so it will be closed and we will be forced to use this one anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dogma 0 Posted August 15, 2003 Damnit! The American Government is doing the right thing! What's your idea to fight terrorism? Do nothing or talk to them? Hey mr.Terrorist we are not bad people please leave us alone, Yeah right.... like that is going to help, Those terrorists got pee-brains they will never stop hating America, They all see how noble and brave those Americans are and still they keep hating them! America supported Afghanistan more than any Arabic country did! U cant always talk and do nothing!, leave that to the UN... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted August 15, 2003 InqWiper Quote[/b] ]I dont hate america and I dont love terrorists, I never said either of that. Sure sounds like you do from here. You made the thread didn't you? Quote[/b] ]Only the terrorists belive this and they will continue beliving it until you convince them that is not the case, wich you havent been close to yet.Bombs are not convincing. It's naive to think you can sit and reason with a terrorist without him trying to kill you. There isn't any convincing going on because they don't want to listen to us, they just want to kill us. Quote[/b] ]I agree that it sucks that this is almost true but on the other hand the US has done, is doing and will do alot of shit that we dont know about also. No, it's not almost true, it is true. The US does wonderful things for other countries. Humanitarian missions, disaster relief and so forth. You just don't hear about them on BBC becuase they don't have a bodycount to go along with them. And every country does covert things, you can't just hate us because we might be doing something bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted August 15, 2003 Damnit! The American Government is doing the right thing! What's your idea to fight terrorism? Do nothing or talk to them? Hey mr.Terrorist we are not bad people please leave us alone, Yeah right.... like that is going to help, Those terrorists got pee-brains they will never stop hating America, They all see how noble and brave those Americans are and still they keep hating them! America supported Afghanistan more than any Arabic country did! U cant always talk and do nothing!, leave that to the UN... I love this guy, he's hilarious! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted August 15, 2003 Quote[/b] ]No, it's not almost true, it is true. The US does wonderful things for other countries. Humanitarian missions, disaster relief and so forth. You just don't hear about them on BBC becuase they don't have a bodycount to go along with them.And every country does covert things, you can't just hate us because we might be doing something bad. That commie pinko BBC eh? What news services do you rely on for your information? TV/Papers etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpecOp9 0 Posted August 15, 2003 Damnit! The American Government is doing the right thing! What's your idea to fight terrorism? Do nothing or talk to them? Hey mr.Terrorist we are not bad people please leave us alone, Yeah right.... like that is going to help, Those terrorists got pee-brains they will never stop hating America, They all see how noble and brave those Americans are and still they keep hating them! America supported Afghanistan more than any Arabic country did! U cant always talk and do nothing!, leave that to the UN... I love this guy, he's hilarious! lol, I agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted August 15, 2003 That commie pinko BBC eh? What news services do you rely on for your information? TV/Papers etc... I don't rely on just one source. CNN, Fox News, sometimes even the BBC, maybe MSNBC if I get desperate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazysheep 1 Posted August 16, 2003 Damnit! The American Government is doing the right thing! What's your idea to fight terrorism? Do nothing or talk to them? No, but making huge bombs isn't going to do a lot to help, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
