Adding a Co-Pilot and 2nd Door Gunner to Blackhawk

[FetishFool 0]

I always prefer to travel on the ground in OPF.

I just don't trust those pilots!

It's like transporting in Star Trek (bare with me).

If even one particle is missing, POOF, you're done with.

Same with choppers. If one bullet hits that pilot, odds are that he's dead! Then, POOF, you're done with.

[Rick Nieuwenhuis 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from FetishFool on 10:12 pm on Dec. 27, 2001

I always prefer to travel on the ground in OPF.

I just don't trust those pilots!

It's like transporting in Star Trek (bare with me).

If even one particle is missing, POOF, you're done with.

Same with choppers.  If one bullet hits that pilot, odds are that he's dead!  Then, POOF, you're done with.

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we should call you BA baracus :biggrin:

[Thehamster 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from FetishFool on 8:12 pm on Dec. 27, 2001

I always prefer to travel on the ground in OPF.

I just don't trust those pilots!

It's like transporting in Star Trek (bare with me).

If even one particle is missing, POOF, you're done with.

Same with choppers.  If one bullet hits that pilot, odds are that he's dead!  Then, POOF, you're done with.

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That’s why heli have bulletproof glass or what ever they use for windows and amour around the pilot

[FetishFool 0]

Okay...

Baracus?

OPF doesn't offter bulletproof glass.

The Apache is supposed to be 100% bulletproof. But it aint!

[Thehamster 0]

yeha who is baracus?

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from Thehamster on 7:20 am on Dec. 29, 2001

yeha who is baracus?<span id='postcolor'>

He's a character from the 'A-Team' television series that was deathly afraid of flying.

[Thehamster 0]

Mr T rules

[Chan 1]

Black Hawk Down! Black Hawk Down!

[charles 0]

bulletproof or not, i don't think it will help when you are using 120mm HE shells on it.....hehe.....i nailed a couple of Mi-24s with tank guns before

[Thehamster 0]

Yeha most things seem to blow up after a couple of 120mm he shells can't think why.

[FetishFool 0]

The 120mm gun is the cannon.

The tanks use 12.7mm machine guns in OPF.

Tanks usually have two machine guns... But I don't want to compain about it right now. The other machine gun is a 7.62mm machine gun.

Most tanks in the world have one 12.7mm main machine gun, and one 7.62mm machine gun. I'm not sure why so many tanks share the same attributes.

[Thehamster 0]

They share the same attributes because the attributes are good and why have something less?

[FetishFool 0]

Yeah, the PK is an inexpensive weapon. And the 7.62 bullet has been perfected over 40 years.

But tanks like the Challenger2 of Britain can handle more firepower than the 12.7mm machine guns.

I don't know how powerful a machine gun gets, but I'm sure there's something larger.

[Thehamster 0]

The machine gun is usally used for killing the ground troops not killing tanks.

[nyles 11]

The discussion about adding a co-pilot or to increase the crew of any other unit is pointless..

Have you ever considered that all missions, using these units as parts of a squad could be screwed if the maximum unit limit per squad has been exceeded?

I mean, IF you add a loader to the m1a1 crew you could only get a maximum of 3 tanks in one squad and not 4 like it is right now. Same goes for Blackhawks or any other unit, thus it is pointless to discuss about this. Sure it would be great to have all these new features but it simply won't work out.

The only thing that in fact could work is to recompile the models with additional seats which COULD be used by additional models. This idea could include to add a spare seat in the m1a1 for one additional unit. When you spawn a tank in the editor this seat would not be manned but COULD be used by an external unit later on. Even if this wouldn't serve any particular advantage for the tank, this unit could take over either gunner or commander place in case any of them dies in combat or at least the seat could be used to allow one crew member of a shot-down tank to seek shelter. Similar things could be done to the blackhawk (allowing one more transporting unit to sit on the co-pilot seat. this should be the last unit to enter the heli though, as it would look dumb to have the first tranported unit take place in the front, thus it should also be a seperate seat like "get in xyz as co-pilot" and not "ride in back" or any other unit...

Got the idea?

EDIT: Transfered this reply from the old board to this, as i just noted this place is a tad better visited

[christophercles 0]

doesnt the gunner in the ffar version of the blackhawk sit in the front? then i have an idea, how about just letting the gunner in the missile version switch seats to pilot when the pilot dies? The airforce used to have a couple of blackhawks stationed down near an airfeild that they had operating near my place, Damn they were cool, but the airfeild is inactive nowadays so the only time i see blackhawks is at airhows.