Last chance before go back to wolfstein 3d

[scott che 0]

i wrote a topic about my troubles few weeks ago : OFP randomly crashed after 5 to 30 minutes and i couldn't play in multi player. It happened after the installation of the patch 1.91.

I tried many things :

read all the avon lady faq (nice job and nice picture of the webmaster )

read "all" the topics related to my problem on this forum,

Update my drivers (VIA chipsets, NVidia, Sound blaster),

Update my bios (K7M motherboard),

Update DX 8.1 to 9,

Reinstall OFP with no add ons,

Reinstall Windows (w98 se),

Changed the IDE channel settings,

changed the sound hardware acceleration settings,

try to play in 800x600,

reducing the view range to 900 meters,

cut the antialiasing,

64Mb aperture size in the bios

all those things in many combinations

The crash is very "clean". I am on the desktop and everythings work well (even OFP if i rerun it immediatly).

I made a step forward : the latests VIA 4 in 1 drivers are not good for w98se (read it on the VIA website), so i installed the 4.35 and i can now play in multiplayers and play longer (about 20 to 30 minutes thanks to VIA).

But 20 to 30 minutes it's very short and very boring because the crash don't wait for the end of my play (could be acceptable if).

OFP was one of the most stable game i had : it crashed 1 time a week before the 1.91 and i used it 1 to 5 hours a day (shorts nights).

Now i play Raven Shield who crashed 1 time a day or never crashed (very acceptable). This is the proof for me, that my hardware working well (i had some heat problems but it's fixed). I play other games like Orbiter, Close combat or Europa Universalis but they are less system ressources consummers. But they worked.

So i put this bottle to the sea with my config and flashpoint.rpt (don't think dxdiag report help because it said everythings well). If you have any ideas...

Config :

Athlon 700

Motherboard K7M

256 Mo

20 Go HDD (2 to 5 Go free for swap i think it's enough for OFP)

GeForce 4 MMX 440

Realtek netcard RTL8139/810x

SB PCI

300 W battery

Drivers :

GeForce : 4.14.01.4345 (this is not the last but OFP crashed with all versions and the driver was left after an other combination trying)

SB : 5.12.01.5017

VIA : 4.35

Directx 9 (i tried differents combinations of DX versions and nvidia drivers and the result is the same : crash)

Flashpoint report (the last games after the installation of the correct 4In1 drivers)

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== C:\PROGRAM FILES\JEUX\CODEMASTERS\OPERATIONFLASHPOINT\FLASHPOINTRESISTANCE.EXE

=====================================================================

Exe version: Mon Jun 09 16:53:46 2003

graphics: Direct3D HW T&L , Device: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440, Driver:NVDD32.DLL 4.14.1.4345

resolution: 1024x768x32, w-buffer

Addons:

RLKAKSU in rlkaksufa\, sebdeltafaced3 in sebdeltawpns\, SEBThrow in sebdeltawpns\

SEB_MP5 in sebdeltawpns\, sebdeltafaced4 in sebdeltawpns\, VoiceRH in voicerh\

Bizon in bizon\, Su25 in su25\, SEBPut in sebdeltawpns\, 6G30 in 6g30\

BIS_WeaponPack in o_wp\, sebdeltafacen in sebdeltawpns\, BISCamel in biscamel\

BMP2 in bmp2\, RLKResPoliceESMG in rlkpoliceeast\, Steyr in steyr\, Kozlice in kozl\

RLKResPoliceShotGun in rlkrespolice\, SEBStingerLauncher in sebdeltawpns\

AH64 in apac\, Vulcan in vulcan\, C130v1a in c130v1a\, PoliceJeepE in rlkeastrespojp\

sebdeltafaced in sebdeltawpns\, Hunter in hunter\, Trabant in trab\, Kolo in kolo\

Mini in mini\, G36a in g36a\, PoliceJeepG in rlkeastrespojp\, BRDM in brmd\

LaserGuided in laserguided\, Noe in noe\, XMS in xms\, Ch47D in ch47\, HMMWV in humr\

OH58 in oh58\, RLKResPoliceSK in rlkrespolice\, RLKResPoliceSMG in rlkrespolice\

BIS_Resistance in o\, B1B in b1b\, RLKResPolice in rlkpoliceeast\

RLKResPoliceESK in rlkpoliceeast\, SEBRemington in sebdeltawpns\

SEBdM4GL in sebdeltawpns\, Flags1 in flags\, MM1 in mm-1\

RLKResPoliceEShotGun in rlkpoliceeast\, SEBC4 in sebdeltawpns\, Bradley in m2a2\

sebdeltafaced2 in sebdeltawpns\, sebdeltafacen2 in sebdeltawpns\

Mods: RES

=======================================================

Date: 07/16/03 Time: 03:10:32

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Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 96006164

Version 1.91

Fault address: 96006164 BF:00436BAC

file:

world: Cain

Prev. code bytes: 39 43 21 55 97 25 A9 C6 31 63 29 BB 7E 54 FC C5

Fault code bytes: 39 42 21 D7 FE EA 70 A5 39 63 21 AA 8A 55 A7 A6

Registers:

EAX:11CC0977 EBX:C5FC547E

ECX:00000000 EDX:00000001

ESI:1030CA20 EDI:0077CD4C

CS:EIP:0167:96006164

SS:ESP:016F:00A0F415 EBP:00A0FA57

DS:016F ES:016F FS:116F GS:0000

Flags:00010202

=======================================================

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== C:\PROGRAM FILES\JEUX\CODEMASTERS\OPERATIONFLASHPOINT\FLASHPOINTRESISTANCE.EXE

=====================================================================

Exe version: Mon Jun 09 16:53:46 2003

graphics: Direct3D HW T&L , Device: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440, Driver:NVDD32.DLL 4.14.1.4345

resolution: 1024x768x32, w-buffer

Addons:

RLKAKSU in rlkaksufa\, sebdeltafaced3 in sebdeltawpns\, SEBThrow in sebdeltawpns\

SEB_MP5 in sebdeltawpns\, sebdeltafaced4 in sebdeltawpns\, VoiceRH in voicerh\

Bizon in bizon\, Su25 in su25\, SEBPut in sebdeltawpns\, 6G30 in 6g30\

BIS_WeaponPack in o_wp\, sebdeltafacen in sebdeltawpns\, BISCamel in biscamel\

BMP2 in bmp2\, RLKResPoliceESMG in rlkpoliceeast\, Steyr in steyr\, Kozlice in kozl\

RLKResPoliceShotGun in rlkrespolice\, SEBStingerLauncher in sebdeltawpns\

AH64 in apac\, Vulcan in vulcan\, C130v1a in c130v1a\, PoliceJeepE in rlkeastrespojp\

sebdeltafaced in sebdeltawpns\, Hunter in hunter\, Trabant in trab\, Kolo in kolo\

Mini in mini\, G36a in g36a\, PoliceJeepG in rlkeastrespojp\, BRDM in brmd\

LaserGuided in laserguided\, Noe in noe\, XMS in xms\, Ch47D in ch47\, HMMWV in humr\

OH58 in oh58\, RLKResPoliceSK in rlkrespolice\, RLKResPoliceSMG in rlkrespolice\

BIS_Resistance in o\, B1B in b1b\, RLKResPolice in rlkpoliceeast\

RLKResPoliceESK in rlkpoliceeast\, SEBRemington in sebdeltawpns\

SEBdM4GL in sebdeltawpns\, Flags1 in flags\, MM1 in mm-1\

RLKResPoliceEShotGun in rlkpoliceeast\, SEBC4 in sebdeltawpns\, Bradley in m2a2\

sebdeltafaced2 in sebdeltawpns\, sebdeltafacen2 in sebdeltawpns\

Mods: RES

=======================================================

Date: 07/23/03 Time: 00:18:07

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Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 005DB46B

Version 1.91

Fault address: 005DB46B 01:001DA46B C:\PROGRAM FILES\JEUX\CODEMASTERS\OPERATIONFLASHPOINT\FLASHPOINTRESISTANCE.EXE

file:

world: Cain

Prev. code bytes: E9 D9 FF FF FF 83 EC 40 53 8B 5C 24 48 55 56 57

Fault code bytes: 8B 7B 54 85 FF 8B E9 89 7C 24 1C C6 44 24 54 00

Registers:

EAX:00000001 EBX:00000000

ECX:104CAE24 EDX:0072B19C

ESI:10DE591C EDI:12CB2490

CS:EIP:0167:005DB46B

SS:ESP:016F:00A0FA44 EBP:00A0FCCC

DS:016F ES:016F FS:199F GS:0000

Flags:00010203

=======================================================

=====================================================================

== C:\PROGRAM FILES\JEUX\CODEMASTERS\OPERATIONFLASHPOINT\FLASHPOINTRESISTANCE.EXE

=====================================================================

Exe version: Mon Jun 09 16:53:46 2003

graphics: Direct3D HW T&L , Device: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440, Driver:NVDD32.DLL 4.14.1.4345

resolution: 1024x768x32, w-buffer

Addons:

RLKAKSU in rlkaksufa\, sebdeltafaced3 in sebdeltawpns\, SEBThrow in sebdeltawpns\

SEB_MP5 in sebdeltawpns\, sebdeltafaced4 in sebdeltawpns\, VoiceRH in voicerh\

Bizon in bizon\, Su25 in su25\, SEBPut in sebdeltawpns\, 6G30 in 6g30\

BIS_WeaponPack in o_wp\, sebdeltafacen in sebdeltawpns\, BISCamel in biscamel\

BMP2 in bmp2\, RLKResPoliceESMG in rlkpoliceeast\, Steyr in steyr\, Kozlice in kozl\

RLKResPoliceShotGun in rlkrespolice\, SEBStingerLauncher in sebdeltawpns\

AH64 in apac\, Vulcan in vulcan\, C130v1a in c130v1a\, PoliceJeepE in rlkeastrespojp\

sebdeltafaced in sebdeltawpns\, Hunter in hunter\, Trabant in trab\, Kolo in kolo\

Mini in mini\, G36a in g36a\, PoliceJeepG in rlkeastrespojp\, BRDM in brmd\

LaserGuided in laserguided\, Noe in noe\, XMS in xms\, Ch47D in ch47\, HMMWV in humr\

OH58 in oh58\, RLKResPoliceSK in rlkrespolice\, RLKResPoliceSMG in rlkrespolice\

BIS_Resistance in o\, B1B in b1b\, RLKResPolice in rlkpoliceeast\

RLKResPoliceESK in rlkpoliceeast\, SEBRemington in sebdeltawpns\

SEBdM4GL in sebdeltawpns\, Flags1 in flags\, MM1 in mm-1\

RLKResPoliceEShotGun in rlkpoliceeast\, SEBC4 in sebdeltawpns\, Bradley in m2a2\

sebdeltafaced2 in sebdeltawpns\, sebdeltafacen2 in sebdeltawpns\

Mods: RES

=======================================================

Date: 07/23/03 Time: 01:17:09

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Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 0058B4C4

Version 1.91

Fault address: 0058B4C4 01:0018A4C4 C:\PROGRAM FILES\JEUX\CODEMASTERS\OPERATIONFLASHPOINT\FLASHPOINTRESISTANCE.EXE

file: -=ctf mokra=- (__CUR_MP)

world: noe

Prev. code bytes: 08 85 DB 7D 09 B8 01 00 00 00 5B C2 08 00 8B 01

Fault code bytes: 56 57 8B 78 14 8A 41 10 84 C0 74 68 6A 0C B9 6C

Registers:

EAX:14D95178 EBX:0000001C

ECX:6CB90C6A EDX:14D950CC

ESI:14D94A0C EDI:103B7010

CS:EIP:0167:0058B4C4

SS:ESP:016F:00A0F544 EBP:00A0F578

DS:016F ES:016F FS:18D7 GS:0000

Flags:00010202

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[blackdog~ 0]

Try mailing [email protected] with all that information.

[Major Fubar 0]

Sorry to hear about your problems...but...that is the funniest topic title I've seen in ages!

[scott che 0]

Good idea Black dog but i already do it and as they say they do not answer. So maybe it help for the future but it doesn't help for my problems

[killswitch 19]

Hi Scott. Sorry to hear about your problems. Here's my take on it: back in the days I too had a Asus K7M motherboard and had symptoms similar to yours - games crashing unexplicably.

After much research I found the likely reason for my problems: the AMD751 chipset has a fluke/bug in its AGP handling that wasn't fixed until the C1 revision of that chipset. This revision wasn't out until late in the 751:s life, in the summer of 2000. By that time, most manufacturers had switched to the VIA KX133 chipset for their motherboard. Result: not too many K7M:s or other 751-based boards ever had the fixed chipet. I had my faulty board exchanged for a KX133 board that, unfortunately, had a VIA chipset and capacitors that leaked and died a year later (Abit, what'd you expect?) ... ;-)

I could easily replicate the following using both windows 2k and linux, using three different AGP graphics cards:

AGP set to x1 - all is well

AGP set to x2 - random crashes

So, my suggestion is that you try to lower the AGP transfer rate in the BIOS to x1 and see if that helps.

My other guess on your problem is that the memory modules might be giving you trouble. That and the fact that you really need more memory for OFP. 512 MB is a good minimum, I'd say.

[scott che 0]

many thanks for that answer.

let's go for some tests in AGP x1 ...

before going to buy a new computer

[scott che 0]

Victory is mine

I try the agp x 1 and it doesn't produce any differences but i noticed the game crash after sounds. So i get back to creative site for a driver. And my card wasn't in there list. So i wrote to creative (dear creative, i am very confused, bla, bla) and they gave me a driver. Now it's 4:35 and after 3 hours of play it crash just one time (between two games frozen crash). This time i think all is ok.

So for guys like me, who run a w98 on an old computer i say : don't use the last 4in1 drivers (they crash the computer not only in OFP), and ask for creative the proper driver for your old sound blaster because they don't show all of them.

Now, I am going to bed with sweet dreams about battle fields and dead budies