Jinef 2 Posted May 13, 2003 On the 12th may there was a good documentary on about the Moscow opera siege by Chechen rebels. I saw it and found it very moving, especially the emotive accounts of relatives saying goodbye to their family. One of the features of the program was to show the bodies of the Chechen women and rebels who had been shot by the Alpha teams, there was some controversy over this. http://www.channel4.com/culture....ts.html I believed it to be acceptable as dead bodies are just that, dead and therefore inanimate, Buffy the vampire slayer to me is more disturbing as things jump out on her from nowhere. Did anyone else see this, it showed how the assault was conducted and provided a good, non biased (well almost - they didn't show the dead bodies of hostages) perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted May 13, 2003 The footage of the dead was tame, more or less a few dead guys slumped over or with blood from under them,there was worse in the newspapers with iraq.I find it best when dealing with gross images is to just deal with it. There was also another fictional documentry like the bio attack that was on a  couple of years ago only this time dealing  with the transport system grinding to a halt. I think it  would be funny if someone  made a  spoof documentry without saying it was  just to see how  many ppls legs u could  pull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Gripe 0 Posted May 14, 2003 Renagade, have you never heard of Orson Welles? The whole world would grind to a halt, especially with everyone so jumpy with Iraq, Bali, Riyadh etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
earl 0 Posted May 14, 2003 A Russian journalist well known for covering the problems in Chechnya published an interview with Khanpash Terkibaev, a Chechen hostage-taker who somehow survived the assault on the theatre. He's also an agent of the Russian federal security service (FSB). Interesting... http://www.jamestown.org/pubs/view/chw_004_015_001.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted May 14, 2003 One of my main beefs with a certain Swedish journalist was his article on Russias revenge acts after the opera siege. He said that the world needs to tell Russia revenge attacks like these are not acceptable. But in the same paper he praises the U.S war on terror. Cant one regard the war on "terror" revenge attacks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Gripe 0 Posted May 14, 2003 Not really 'revenge' its more like this. The playground bully hits the annoying geek beacause he knows he can win and all the other kids in the class will laugh because they don't like the geek! The conflict in Chechnya is beyond a joke now especially with these bombings, its turning into a war of attrition much like Palestine and Israel. Very sad   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted May 15, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Gripe @ 15 May 2003,00:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not really 'revenge' its more like this. The playground bully hits the annoying geek beacause he knows he can win and all the other kids in the class will laugh because they don't like the geek!<span id='postcolor'> Which was somewhat true at first but you're forgetting that when the "geek" fought back the "bully" left him alone but the "geek" still decided to pull an international Columbine and blew up 300 people as well as trying to invade another province. It's not nearly as black and white as you make it out to be. And when you consider the 300 000+ Russians that were living there when the Chechens decided they didn't want them and *ahem* started removing them...your geek and bully roles suddenly reverse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsthatyouJohnWayne 0 Posted May 15, 2003 It was an interesting documentary (especially as i missed all of the original reporting of the event being in the anatolian wilderness at the time). It was pretty shocking how many people died needlessly after the event thanks to the gas (i was not aware previously of the precise way the hostages died). The fact that those Chechens felt not only able to, but enthusiastic about doing this in the first place is not a good sign. As long as there is no end to human stupidity and cruelty , there is no end to needless suffering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinef 2 Posted May 15, 2003 And people like George. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
