Shashman 0 Posted March 15, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NAA_Us_Marine @ Mar. 15 2003,10:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually ur theory shash has nothing to do with why they made the SU-27 for a bigger mig 29... have u ever thought about loadouts.<span id='postcolor'> What are you talking about?? I was correcting him! I know the differences between a Flanker and a Fulcrum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted March 15, 2003 I thougt the SU-25 was used in Afghanistan... but i guess that's just me.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsoldier 0 Posted March 15, 2003 Is the double cheese burger basicly a bigger cheese burger? some may say yes, because some people want more of a good thing, and others might say, no its a totaly new one because better and bigger, and it even has its own name and its own spot in the menu. The Su-27 is a new plane yes, but its basicly a bigger Mig-29. The russian governemtn wanted Sukhoi to design an aircraft with same capabilities as the mig-29 yet fill in its weaknesses. Like short range, poor radar and limited loadouts. The mig-29 and Su-27 have virtualy a perfectly identical aerodynamic properties. They both escape a flat spin by letting go of the stick. so thats enough to tell you that their extremyl close. The Su-27 might seem better, yet its weak in many areas that the mig-29 excells in. If your interested in knowing why, read this page: http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_27.shtml cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted March 15, 2003 I suggest you read "Sukhoi SU-27 Flanker" by Yefim Gordon... 178 pages of very informative content covering EVERYTHING SU-27 related A good book The SU-27 has a similar wing loading to the MIG-29, higher thrust to weight ratio, better range, better engines than the MiG-29 (then again a Trabant has better engines than the MiG-29), and more capable avionics, can carry more weapons and deliver them with greater accuracy. But never mind, I like it so I'll keep on argueing..lol...we'll just have to agree to differ  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsoldier 0 Posted March 15, 2003 looks like you didn;t read the article to get the point. And my point too, maybe i frogot to tell you that the Su-27 is by far my favourite fighter ever, and Mekhail Simonov is one of my heros. I gues you know who this guy is. A line from the article "The Su-27, on the contrary, can be seen as a kind of a further development of the MiG-29, and is at best described as a flying SAM-site." I love the Su-27 as much as you,and im not saying that its a bad airplane, or the mig-29 is better. It has the bad things, but i love it for the good things. cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2stoned2kil- 0 Posted March 15, 2003 I like the MiG-29 more   deadsoldier , do u already know wich camo scheme u gonna take for the MiG-29   ?? Camo scheme 1 Camo scheme 2 Camo scheme 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsoldier 0 Posted March 15, 2003 yes we will do Czech, German and Russian. Right now im almost done with the Czech. Czech: http://www.military.cz/russia/air/mig/Mig_29/images/mig29_1.jpg http://www.military.cz/russia/air/mig/Mig_29/images/mig29_13.jpg German: http://www.fabulousfulcrums.de/images1/CH_01.jpg http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/mig-29_001128a.jpg Russian: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/mig-29_near_vertical.jpg OR http://airstrikeonline.tripod.com/images/mig29_12.jpg Suggestions welcomed. cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted March 16, 2003 Hope it gets released soon dead, it looks good from the screens I've seen And just to let you all know, I am going to ask deadsoldier about implementing a nuclear bomb using the new burning effect on an F-15E update. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted March 16, 2003 Check out this Luftwaffe beauty I saw at Beauvechain in the summer  Stunning MIG-29G Other angle mmmmmmm :-D lol...I wouldn't suggest using those markings on your MIG-29...You'd kinda stand out a bit  These are my favourite camouflage patterns Polish AF Czech AF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAA_Us_Marine 0 Posted March 16, 2003 Shash thats funny i am actually working on a plastic model of that same mig 29 you posted pics of. the plastic model is made by revell you could get it at ur local hobby store we were thinking of doing that scheme we may and we may not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
