Landser addon v1.0 is out

[stoppelhopser 0]

hi,

along with a major site update comes the Landser addon v1.0A for Resistance and v1.0B for versions 1.0 - 1.46

njoy

[desantnik 0]

Very good, I am really enjoying the landsers overall. I got a couple of questions

1) when you release the Russians; which side will they be on since the dxlandsers are on the east so would the Russians be on the west? Seems a bit ironic to me... maybe the Germans would be better as the Resistance because then they could be set to fight against the Americans and the Russians.

2) The new animations are very good looking and do you have an eta on when they will be implemented into the pack?

Thats all. Eagerly awaiting the Russians and anything else you release.

[CanadianTerror 0]

Most(like 99%) of the ww2 German addons are east already. I would put the Russians on the Resistance side.

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ Feb. 11 2003,07:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Most(like 99%) of the ww2 German addons are east already. I would put the Russians on the Resistance side.

<span id='postcolor'>

I agree. The Russians should definitely be on the Resistance side...either that or on the West side as they didn't fight the U.S. and other Allies during WWII. They only faught against the Germans....BUT... the Resistance side gives a little more flexibility.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[stoppelhopser 0]

Well i think i might just make them available for west and resistance and then it´s up 2 the missionmaker...

@desantnik:

don´t take this personal sure the side assignement bares some irony. but we could make this a never ending story...

if germans are on west they are friendly to all american troop addons available.. if i put them to resistance they can be set to be friendly to nobody and thus can fight russians and other allies, but i am shure some mission makers then complain they can´t make joint operations with russians and americans...

we could make a deal though... if our russian friends out there don´t mind showing up under west i don´t mind my landsers talking with russian accent

anyway i decided for future releases to make the landsers available for east and res, the russians will show up under res and west.

about the animations: i don´t wanna release them before the set isn´t completed. it´s not the prob to adopt the static anims, but they aren´t worth a cent without the interpolations, and that´s the hard bit of work.

plus it is more important to get the units done first (but i just couldn´t help playing around with anims )....

[CanadianTerror 0]

Or...

you could have the yanks as east, the russians as west and the Germs as resisistance.

[N.o.R.S.u 0]

Naah, make Germans east, Russians & Allies west. Then we can have smaller armies like Finnish army and resistance forces like French, Polish and Estonians in resistance side .

[desantnik 0]

Sure that works...I just cant get over the irony...

[CanadianTerror 0]

Ah yes Estonia, if the Italians hadnt bombed them at the Gulf Of Mexico, Spain may have never even entered the war.

...or something like that.

[pzvg 0]

somehow I don't think that not being able to make joint US-Russian missions will be a problem (never happened in real life anyway, so what exactly would the point have been? Hollywood auditions?)

That said, changing a units starting side is one of the simplest tasks in OFP, jee, not like I'd have to create a new anim for it or something.

[stoppelhopser 0]

a joint operation might sound like a weird idea, but man have i come across weird ideas in these forums

anyway i have already implemented a "double side feature" for my addons

[desantnik 0]

Shit in the campaign I ve been working on: all my missions I have the Russians are east and the Germans are resistance. Is there a way I personally could put Russian units as standalone East ones? For example I have several missions which I have been working on quite a bit, and all the Russians are east. With the way your Russian troops are set up I would have to manually change every Russian soldier in the mission to side west and it would be easier to just scrap the missions in the first place. So is there any .... possible way for you to include Russian soldiers under east? It would help me and the Russian community out a lot. Or if you could tell how how I can change the side in the cpp from west to east I would be happy. I dont want to deflect your time but all I would need is instructions on how to change it in the cpp or even better, a modified cpp.... if I am asking too much just say it but it would really help me out a lot.

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (pzvg @ Feb. 13 2003,00:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">somehow I don't think that not being able to make joint US-Russian missions will be a problem (never happened in real life anyway, so what exactly would the point have been? Hollywood auditions?)

That said, changing a units starting side is one of the simplest tasks in OFP, jee, not like I'd have to create a new anim for it or something.   <span id='postcolor'>

Perhaps no joint operations but if I'm not mistaken, I believe that there were times when Russian and U.S. forces ran into each other and least operated in the same areas.

But yeah you're right. Actually creating sides is pretty simple to do in the map editor. You just "group" link a unit from the side you want the Russians to become as a leader to your Russian group. Then there is a slider for something like "probablity of appearance" or something like that which you just set all the way to the left I believe (experiment to make sure). This basically makes that unit NOT appear at any time, but leaves the remaining troops in your squad acting as if they are from the same side as that group leader that you made disappear. Very simple to do.

So regardless if they are Russian or East it's all good to me.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Wonder 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles Teg @ Feb. 11 2003,17:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ Feb. 11 2003,07:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Most(like 99%) of the ww2 German addons are east already. I would put the Russians on the Resistance side.

<span id='postcolor'>

I agree.  The Russians should definitely be on the Resistance side...either that or on the West side as they didn't fight the U.S. and other Allies during WWII.  They only faught against the Germans....BUT... the Resistance side gives a little more flexibility.  

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD><span id='postcolor'>

The russians were americans' allies, but the americans were't russians' allies

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ Feb. 13 2003,06:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">7--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles Teg @ Feb. 11 2003,177)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ Feb. 11 2003,07:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Most(like 99%) of the ww2 German addons are east already. I would put the Russians on the Resistance side.

<span id='postcolor'>

I agree.  The Russians should definitely be on the Resistance side...either that or on the West side as they didn't fight the U.S. and other Allies during WWII.  They only faught against the Germans....BUT... the Resistance side gives a little more flexibility.  

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD><span id='postcolor'>

The russians were americans' allies, but the americans were't russians' allies <span id='postcolor'>

? ? ? ?

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[-TU--33ker 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ Feb. 13 2003,06:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">7--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles Teg @ Feb. 11 2003,177)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ Feb. 11 2003,07:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Most(like 99%) of the ww2 German addons are east already. I would put the Russians on the Resistance side.

<span id='postcolor'>

I agree.  The Russians should definitely be on the Resistance side...either that or on the West side as they didn't fight the U.S. and other Allies during WWII.  They only faught against the Germans....BUT... the Resistance side gives a little more flexibility.  

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD><span id='postcolor'>

The russians were americans' allies, but the americans were't russians' allies <span id='postcolor'>

i know that general patton hated comunists but i never heard of some russian general/officer/soldier who hated americans in time if WW2. i think the russians were quite happy to recieve help from america. (i read about american food delivered to russian troops in stalingrad)

[Royal_Blackwatch 0]

As a matter of fact, there were some few incidents were Americans and Russians fought against each other (not accidently).

In one case the Americans fought alongside Waffen SS Soldiers against the Russians somewhere in Austria.

If I remember correctly the Americans took a beating down there.

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Royal_Blackwatch @ Feb. 13 2003,20:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As a matter of fact, there were some few incidents were Americans and Russians fought against each other (not accidently).

In one case the Americans fought alongside Waffen SS Soldiers against the Russians somewhere in Austria.

If I remember correctly the Americans took a beating down there.<span id='postcolor'>

Is that a rumor or a historical fact that can be verified?

I never heard of anything like that (although it doesn't mean it didn't happen). It would be interesting to find the source of that info.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[CanadianTerror 0]

Ive never heard of that happening....that just sounds wack.

Perhaps something to back it up?

[Rattler 0]

I could believe Americans fighting Russian on purpose but not with some SS helping them

[desantnik 0]

Thats pretty nifty. any ways I ll just do what Miles Teg suggested so no need putting the Russians on east. Stopplehopser since it is Feb 13, may we have a progress report on how much you have the Russian troops completed. Also what are you going to use for the Russian light machine gun? I would suggest the Degteriv

Technical data:

Operation: Automatic fire, only;

Length: 50.8 in. (1290 mm);

Weight unloaded: 20 lb 8 oz (9.12 kg);

Barrel: 23.8 in. 4 grooves, right hand twist;

Magazine: 47 round detachable pan;

Cyclic Rate: 500-600 rpm;

Muzzle velocity: 2760 fps, 2900 ft-lb;

Ammunition: 148 gr bullet, 48 gr charge, Russian Light Ball M'08;

Effective Range: Probably about 1000 meters.

[CanadianTerror 0]

Well since you mentioned machine guns, how about one of these?

[desantnik 0]

The maxim 1910 water cooled machine gun was a deployed weapon mainly used in defence as it was heavy. It was operated by a two - three man team and would be ideal as a static weapon. The infantry wouldnt carry it normally as it was heavy but they were mounted on wheels and used in attack sometimes.

Caliber, mm 7,62*54 mm

Length, mm 1270

Weight w/ mount, w/o water, kg 66

Weight of ammo box with 250 rds, kg 9,88

Jacket capacity, liters 4

Belt capacity, rds, 250

Rate of fire, rpm 600

Sighting range, m 1000

[pzvg 0]

That old BS? it never happened,

And since we're on the subject your average American did not hate Russians,just as your average Russian did not hate Americans.

Stalin hated everybody, and gave good cause to be mistrusted, (lying about troop strength in order to get the Americans to commit early ring a bell?)

Patton hated Russians, not just Communists, but then again, Patton hated everyone.

No where would American troops taken up positions alongside SS, The SS were feared and hated by ALL the Allied forces, a condition time and Hollywood have done nothing to abate.

If anything, US troops might have had to stop Russian troops from shooting SS prisoners, since the Russians uniformly killed SS troops out of hand.

[Royal_Blackwatch 0]

Maybe I´ve expressed myself a bit unclear about the fighting.

That American / SS "incident" wasn´t actually something like an ally. These German Soldiers were guarding a research facility and had the intention of surrendering to the americans (of course). The russian and american combat groups were both ordered to capture this facility. I don´t know who then shot first.

I´m going to have a look at my books to get the exact happening but give me a couple of days for research plz.

I´ll post my exact results HERE later