Waste of Time

[Maldita Vecindad 1]

Three months ago I had dialup. And was very happy....

My brother convince me to swich to 256 DSL so I did.

I almost cry when I saw the speed of the pages... Everything was almost instantaneous...

I used only the internet to an occasional surf and to rread my e-mails..... but now I see TV videos. Hear hight quality radio, download mp3s like crazy and the most important :play online the way it was meant to be played: lag free

Now I laught everytime I remember how my conection used to be...... and aks myself how I lived that way.....

I feel sorry for the ones that don't have broadband avialable in their area and hope that in a near future you have an oportunity to get it.

But for the ones that can get it. Do it. Once you taste it ... You will never want to go back.

(Edited by keKoJoNes at 11:08 pm on Nov. 15, 2001)

[RN Malboeuf 12]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from keKoJoNes

My brother convince me to swich to 256 DSL so I did.

I almost cry when I saw the speed of the pages... Everything was almost instantaneous...

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you should try 1500+ Cable

it's like it was on your hard drive before you even opened the browser

[Diniter 0]

Can I sell my kidney for one?

[hkg3 0]

Broad Ban, quite an appropriate way of putting it, because broadly we are all banned, of course i expect u mean BROADBAND.

Now satellite thats pish no use for games, 56k not the best , but better than useless, never seen a 56ker drag us down in our *Mixed* gaming sessions, we have Cable broadband /ADSL connections, and ISDN as well as one or 2 that connect with 56k modems, our average pings with 8 playing is 200 - 300 ms, which is still very playable, some are lower and some higher, in fact i get better ping on my 64k ISDN than some of our Cable and ADSL players.

Most of the people i play with in my squad would love to be able to get a broadband cable or an ADSL connection, but hey we're dealing with BT/NTL etc so thats not going to happen.

Personally the sooner they get DSL the better then we will see true capability of online gaming, BUT only if the comm's companies ie BT get their act together..........

RN u always got a lot to write but never much to say, you really think people will move house so they can get a Cable or ADSL connection, man i've not laughed so much in a long time.

AND as for you 56ker's out there u are always welcome to come and play along with the DV Squad, our website is at http://www.dvsquad.com , drop one of us a mail and come play EVERYONE is welcome, not just the chosen few..............

[The Ripper 0]

I live in the uk and as it stands broadband and cable is only just startin to be common place. the area i live is not covered by cable and only very recently now covered by broadband from bt. but its the price of it at the moment Å49.99 a month then normal phone calls on top of that is a complete rippoff thats about 56 to 57 dollars a month then calls on top of that you easily say 60 dollars a month.one of the posts was saying cable about 40 dollars a month thats about 36 pound a month you guys in the U.S are paying about half what youd pay over in rippoff britain (lucky twats) i was gonna order it but im not paying aroung Å800 a year ill stick to the 56k s**te until the price drops?

[RN Malboeuf 12]

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in fact i get better ping on my 64k ISDN than some of our Cable and ADSL players<span id='postcolor'>

No offence but IDSN DOES not gett better Ping then other forms of Broad ban

Ping is the Time it takes to HOP from your location to the Servers (web site, tarce route ect.) it has ZERO bearing on your Band width

56ks suffer from higher Pings basically becasue they are stalling the Ping to finish sending out other data, but 56ks can get the same ping locally as any Broad Ban as long as the Packets don't over work the 56k (this is what causes higher ping on 56k modems)

this means if I conect to said server though our local DSL and get a Ping of 110 to a server a few hundred miles away and then I disconect and Dial up using the SAME ISP (dial up usually also has the same DSL ISP thusly using the SAME path - hops) I will get 110 Ping on the 56k modem when just pinging the servr b4 game play

Ping has nothing to do with the Packet size, so if you have 56k Dial up you'll still get lag some lag

now when you have 56k or IDSN and you see your Ping shoot up to 1000+ thats because you still have the 110 ping, but your modem is just waiting to send the Data packet for the Ping because it's busy sending some thing else

Are you following?

The Fact that you are closer (or less hops) is why you get lower Pings Even if you have IDSN and another guy has Cable and you both play in the same Town on the SAME town server, Different ISP that Don't like each other may force each other to HOP out of Town to conect greatly increasing the PING time

I can get a Ping of 1 on ppl on my Cable ISP, 20 in the city 2 hours away from me on the same Cable ISP and 40 if they are on the DSL ISP

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> hkg3

RN u always got a lot to write but never much to say, you really think people will move house so they can get a Cable or ADSL connection, man i've not laughed so much in a long time. <span id='postcolor'>

The fact you think IDSN is faster made us all Laugh, Do us a favor and don't bother posting on things your not to sure on k

(Edited by RN Malboeuf at 7:22 am on Nov. 17, 2001)

[RN Malboeuf 12]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from The Ripper

but its the price of it at the moment Å49.99 a month <span id='postcolor'>

actuall US is getting RIPPED off as well

they still pay on average $40 US, I know thats less then the UK

but here in Canada we Pay $40 CND (25 US) and on average we get faster 1500/150 rates compared to 256/50

It's actuall Cheap to get Cable/ DSL then it is to have Dial up ($20-$30 CND) and a Dedicated Phone line ($15) thats $35-$45 CND and 200-400% slower

[hkg3 0]

I NEVER said ISDN was faster then cable or ADSL, if u read me properly i said sometimes i get a better ping and less lag than some of the ADSL/CABLE players i play online with, so laugh is on you you illiterate monkey.

In actual fact, i am further away than some of these guys, i got 23 hops to reach host, some of these guys got 10 - 13, so thats bollox too m8, I DO GET BETTER PING i have played it and taken piss out of ADSL/CABLE users doing it.

i know a little bit about it, but i am sorry not to be as knowledgable as you Malboeuf.

I have fast pc s**tloads of ram, Also host should have plenty RAM and processing power, because it is the hosts computer that is taking the stress when u play on his server, therefore i think you will find that it if the hosts PC cannot handle the load, you will get lots of lag, also how much happens to be going on at the time.

Thats why games with tanks/choppers etc LAG lots more than ones with men only. It takes power to draw and redraw etc all the time, send that info on and get that info back, for EVERY pc connected to the host, and YES if u got 56k this will take longer to do, but the majority of the problem comes from the HOST.

(Edited by hkg3 at 8:15 pm on Nov. 18, 2001)

[RN Malboeuf 12]

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in fact i get better ping on my 64k ISDN than some of our Cable and ADSL players<span id='postcolor'>

I read it wong? see you posted it right here

Don't lecture me on what the host needs I 've posted Real server Specs Guide lines for the whole comunity to use

now for a little lesson for you

HOPS

you have 23 HOPS

buddie has 10 and is on cable

you get faster ping returns would be due to the fact that his ISP and NODES are working hard so there are delays

this happens to overloaded use on many ISPs after 5pm EVERY DAY

with my ISP most of our Hops are routed the fastest possible Node/way, where two hours to the east of me in the larger city DSL and Cable users will suffer in Ping since there are THOUSANDS of users trying to HOP out of the city after 5 pm

Not by much

in the end IDSN does not offer faster speed or ping, it may be a lesser crowed ISP with less NODE Clogs then some the larger Cities after 5 pm Local Time

Are you still here?

(Edited by RN Malboeuf at 8:53 am on Nov. 19, 2001)

[hkg3 0]

Your gibbering now...... I use AOL and it is pretty busy after 5pm..........none of what you said there made any sense at all sorry.

Oh and if i got this many bites when i was out fishing i'd be a happy man......

[RN Malboeuf 12]

AOL lol

no wonder your so dense

AOL is CRAP

don't even brag about it

[WisdoM 1]

People will always complain about what other people have people with 56k..don;t complain cuz u get kicked. Here an idea host a room of your own for 56gayers. So all u lamers can play together An ISDN sucks..for the money u may as well stick with 56gay.

Are you Malbeouf that I played with a few days ago,on the Radishville T-1 dedicated server? and thought he was good? If not I apoligize but the guy thought he was good cuz he could fly a chopper and get kills, but the funny thing was after I blew up his chopper, he got 3 kills, out of his 9 and 5 armor. PLus all he did was base rape and spawn camp, but ebnough of my bashing the this loser. was it you or is there another Mal?  < WisdoM is the name.

(Edited by Murda Inc at 5:00 pm on Nov. 19, 2001)

(Edited by Murda Inc at 5:02 pm on Nov. 19, 2001)

[RN Malboeuf 12]

so your the 2nd grader, and no i never base Raped, I engaged only the manned Vehicles, and you missed the 7 games before you came (after that I kicked you from the server by killing your IP) ony 2 missions out of the 8 i played that day had Choppers and yet I still managed to come in 1st place every match

I killed you 6 times to your 1 kill ( the choper which I was landing) you have to learn not to just run in the open lol, I also single handedly killed 4 of you snipers you had base Spawn Camping with in 2 minutes of my Spawn. Had no chopper then just an AK with 30 rounds

if you have the all seeing EYE jump onto russin's server tonight and play some DM with us RN

you'll see that no matter the situation a newbie bragart like you will allways lose since you dont shut the #### up

and that US RN play WAY TO MUCH lol

you see I don't really tell ppl much but I'm ranked in the top 5 killers in the world for SoF, i know my Tactics do you? and ask any old time SoF player who Body Count is and they'll tell you

I never saw a kid complain about a guy winning in all my life

I love Newbies who think thier good, they wont stop bitching and actually play

Russin is gonna have fun with you

[WisdoM 1]

Oh well, It appears that I'm not the second grader here. I'm not getting into a lame ass flame war with you. I'm a little more grown up than that. Anyway, I still had fun playing...getting the most kills is not everything, your right your probably better than me, but I see you brag alot too, I guess it's boosts your self esteem in some way? In every post I've read of yours since I came back, youve acted like an ass, just like you did on the server, and yes my friend you did base rape, but really who gives a s**t. And umm no you did nothing to my IP numbnuts, I quit playing..lol funny you should try and look cool though.

Like I said I'm not getting into a flame war with you, as I can see your the 2nd grader here just by the way you act and hold yourself. And no I'm not a newbie, I just do more than play Operation Flashpoint. So if thinking your good makes you feel better about yourself than so be it But I can see I'm a #### of a lot maturer than you, and I'm 19 I bet your like what 28?

[RN Malboeuf 12]

lol Any one who plays with me knows your lying and that I never brag while playing or Base Rape, Like I said I engaged only Manned Vehicles

I was quiet the whole game till you started  your "oooh you think your so go good" whiner remarks

Every one that plays with me knows I hardly talk while I play, I'm to busy listening to foot steps

Try again

(Edited by RN Malboeuf at 9:50 am on Nov. 20, 2001)

[WisdoM 1]

Your making things look different than they were. I started off by ASKING oyu to stop base raping at which point you denied it, and then began acting like an ass. But naway I really don't care it was one game out of the many GREAT games I have played with nice people. Looking through the forums I see you are not a well liked person, so in oyur posts your always making fun, or telling someone they are wrong. Oh well please just keep posting so you continue to prove your idiocy!

Your just a little kid stuck in an older body, and when I say alittle kid I mean you have the mentallity of a 8 year old. "Oh I won 7 games in a row, Oh I'm so good, Oh are clan cant be defeated." Well your clan will get no respect from me. Why are you so bitter, all of your posts never really help anyone out, nor do they have much merit or truth to them. You are just proving how unliked oyu are with every post you make, so continue on my firend, "bad beef" If I ever see you again I'll make sure not to play with you, and it's not cuz "your so skiloled at your tactics" but because you act like an ass, and then say That I was acting immtature, pffft PLEASE. May I suggest you take a break form OFP, go out grab a little sun in that place you call a country called Canada, and maybe possibly you might find a female, get laid, and all your bitternes will be solved, well maybe not all. ut you might be a lot happier person. Until then f.u.c.k off, I'm going to ignore your postsfrom now on.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

and all you do is flame and ppl who play with me know I don't Base Rade

try again and go back to FS2

(Edited by RN Malboeuf at 11:36 am on Nov. 20, 2001)

[hkg3 0]

LMAO, thats good Murda m8, sounds about right for him, he does think he is the greatest, and i have offered him to get in contact with our squad for a friendly little game, but no answer so far, he sounds like a base raper, anyone can score high and look good raping bases and talking themselves up. Our squad may not be the greatest, maybe even the worst, but we have fun and thats what this game is about......56kers welcome too.

Oh i agree finally about something RN, aol is crap, but at least i don't get booted every 2 hours like some ISP's do and i don't have huge banner adverts all over my screen either like the others, so i'll just stick with crappy old reliable aol.

[WisdoM 1]

Hkg3, you dont wanna play with this ####### belive me, you hit every point exactly. Oh well good to see I'm not the only one who sees this "bad Beef"...your name should be bad attitude.

[Gnrl 0]

I have just read the full 3 pages of this topuc. here is my opinion. I think that to let a few 56ers in is ok... just a few with a bad ping could be tolerated, but what i think, is that 56ers create rooms for other 56ers, and play all together! Ok, so it will run a little slowerr than usual, but when i host games i always let a few ppl in with a 56k modem, becuase a few wouldn't hurt the game! Anyway, let me just tell the guy that started this topic that i know what you mean, i had a 56k modemand on multiplayer games, with red alert2 noone would let me in. Once i got cable, i had been able to get into all games but i do understand your testimony. I agree totally with your point and ppl should let in a few 56ers in games.

Neo

[BigQEd 0]

lol... based on response to posts I have made RN Malboeuf needs reassurance. Thus he insults and degrades others to try and make himself look better.

To each his own... just understand that people will eventually catch on and you will need to change your name or they will not take you serious anymore.

RN Malboeuf... realize your Internet knowledge is in the infantile stage. You know so little but yet you try to seem so intelligent. There are those of us out here that know a little more than you believe they do. (kinda like when growing up and believing your parents are stupid old idiots).

Also remember... everyone has an opinion. Just because they do not exactly match yours does not mean they are wrong.

There are always 3 sides to a coin...

If this was a bit harsh I apologize. However, I felt it needed said.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

yea, comming from a guy who claims he has triple reduntany Fiber lines lol

your capped at T1 and you don't even know why

my T1 Speed Cable at up has higher upstream then your server does 1700/1500

best not claim what you dont have, and best not start saying who is inteligent, by flaming you just lowered yours

Radish's server is a T3 and still out performs your server

also you need more maps before ppl really start to use you server

(Edited by RN Malboeuf at 7:03 pm on Nov. 27, 2001)

[BigQEd 0]

WE OWN THE CIRCUITS... WE OWN THE BANDWIDTH... WE OWN THE BUILDING.

LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL

How many times do I have to say it... and in how many ways?

FIRST Net is a large Regional ISP and we have a hefty network... and it is our network. Redundant OC3. No dedicated server out there to my knowledge has more bandwidth...

THERE ARE NO CAPS! Other than maybe the game having limitations.

We have several different types of servers running and none have these issues. From Quake to CS to WolfenStein.

RN Malboeuf ... again you spew things out of your mouth that you have no knowledge of.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

and yet you're still stuck at 1500

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

like I said my Local T3 has 4500, yet you have a faster line and only 1500, and you claim OFP limits you

why don't the other servers have these problems like Radish?

Just because I pointed out your server is slow when it comes to AI does not mean you can justifly Flaming me.

I've done my share around here to help ppl and have helped them

you come in offering Triple reduntant line and yet the server lags with AI or 12 players and presume I don't know any thing and instantly start flaming, what have you done around here any ways?

makes you look real good too

[BigQEd 0]

RN Malboeuf... you basically said and continue to say I am lying.

Why would I Lie?

We have what I said... and I would like to see the actual monitor stats of this server you say does what you say it does.

Your throwing numbers up in the air... but everyone that plays on our server (except you) says it's the fastest out there.

BTW, there is ONE map (Rescue Randolph) which I made and is extremely intensive. If you played that map then yes it lags with 12+ people. But that map has 10 choppers and a Chinook with paradrop. All going to the same place at the same time.

It will cause lag on any server with too many people. This is an issue with the map (actually OFP but I won't go into that) and I am always changing it to improve performance.