DarkLight 0 Posted January 18, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Jan. 17 2003,17:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Pah, dont believe Denoir, he is lying to put the swedish army in good light. But we all heard to stories of swedish soldiers in the balkans who had to admit to their superiors that they lost some empty bullets. Most of them confessed in tears that they were searching the ground for hours but the one bullet did not redissapear. Of course the swedish are little tollerant concerning ecology issues and those soldiers in many cases were executed right away and left to dry in the afternoon sun. Many germans came home from missions and told the stories of desperate swedish soldiers willing to invest great amounts of money for an empty bullet. The empty-bullet-black-market in Srebrenicza was often the last chance to safe the life of a desperate swedish soldier.<span id='postcolor'> Wow, i didn't know all that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pukko 0 Posted January 18, 2003 Darklight, maybe you got it, but that was just some poor jokes by Albert  And denoir is not lying. I have indeed never heard of anyone getting punished for not using 'brass bags' in Sweden; on the other hand I dont think I have ever known someone who have not used a brass bag either Its just as narural to empty the bag once in a while (when it starts to become hard its full and must be emptied) as it is to empty one self when needed, no problem, one dont think about it since it becomes a natural part of the weapon. I made some scans tonight, and since this thread already has alot of swedish stuff, I thought I would post 2 pics from my military service, featuring discussed items: Here you can see both 'brass bags' and 'lösskutnings anordningar' on swedish high quality K-pist's (and alot of guys in old ugly uniforms during basic training) Here you can see a carrier of quite a big machinegun: JA 37 Viggen. To support your story Albert I can tell you that I have a empty 'Viggen gun' case (30 mm ammo) in my bookshelf. It was collected with a chopper from the ice of lake Storsjön by the 2:nd guy from the right, in the lower row - who served as a case-collector , no seriously he was a 'ytbärgare' (pilot rescuer) who collected some cases as souvenirs. ´ btw, both pictures features the same people, at the start and teh end of our 11 months military service at F4-Frösön Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted January 18, 2003 funny discussion... that´s why I like caseless ammo so much  Unfortunally it was only used for G11 testings. I hope that caseless ammo will make it to standard someday. You have several benefits: low weight of ammo magazine capacity can be extended a lot firing rate improves a lot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted January 18, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pukko @ Jan. 17 2003,21:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Darklight, maybe you got it, but that was just some poor jokes by Albert  <span id='postcolor'> I know, i posted that just to get reactions like this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted January 18, 2003 No shit sherlock! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pukko 0 Posted January 19, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Jan. 18 2003,23:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pukko @ Jan. 17 2003,21:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Darklight, maybe you got it, but that was just some poor jokes by Albert  <span id='postcolor'> I know, i posted that just to get reactions like this one <span id='postcolor'> lol  sorry for even commenting (is that a word? ) I did not read through it again, and remembered it as 'not quite impossible to belive' ; now I re-read it and saw stuff like 'executed and left to dry in the sun'....  damn you Sherlock Schweizer  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted January 19, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pukko @ Jan. 18 2003,02:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Jan. 18 2003,23:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pukko @ Jan. 17 2003,21:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Darklight, maybe you got it, but that was just some poor jokes by Albert  <span id='postcolor'> I know, i posted that just to get reactions like this one <span id='postcolor'> lol  sorry for even commenting (is that a word? ) I did not read through it again, and remembered it as 'not quite impossible to belive' ; now I re-read it and saw stuff like 'executed and left to dry in the sun'....  damn you Sherlock Schweizer  <span id='postcolor'> Hehehe, well, i sure had a good laugh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted January 19, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Jan. 19 2003,13:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pukko @ Jan. 18 2003,02:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Jan. 18 2003,23:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pukko @ Jan. 17 2003,21:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Darklight, maybe you got it, but that was just some poor jokes by Albert  <span id='postcolor'> I know, i posted that just to get reactions like this one <span id='postcolor'> lol  sorry for even commenting (is that a word? ) I did not read through it again, and remembered it as 'not quite impossible to belive' ; now I re-read it and saw stuff like 'executed and left to dry in the sun'....  damn you Sherlock Schweizer  <span id='postcolor'> Hehehe, well, i sure had a good laugh... <span id='postcolor'> And homework for tomorrow is to count all the smilies on this page Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
