Too many addons? can't load with 128mb video card

[cpthyland2 0]

Please Help,

I have been running Flash Point and Resistance for like ever on my old machine, since then I have built a gaming machine, and now OFP and Res loads but goes at first to a black screen then to an all green or yellow screen, sound is fine - you can hear it it just doesn't display properly:  Now here is the kicker, if I remove my GeForce 4 4600 or Radeon 9700 and replace it with my old GeForce 3 ti500 it works fine.  The only way I can get it to work is if I remove most of my addons.

System Specs:

MSI KT4 Ultra

PC3500 DDR 400 Memory

Athlon XP2100

VIA 4.43 Drivers

Radeon 9700

2.4 catalyst drivers for the ati card (this is my card)

40.72 Nvidia Drivers (used with friends GeForce 4 TI4600)

(yes I removed the ati card and all drivers when then used the nvidia card)

AGP apature is set to 32mb - only way I can get past o.pbo memory issue

Essentially the only thing I change is the video card, I have 768MB of addons - the Geforce 3 handles it fine, the other two 128MB video cards won't load unless I remove 1/2 the addons - any ideas??

[theavonlady 2]

What drivers do you have when you run with the GF4?

[cpthyland2 0]

I use the 40.72 drivers with both the GeForce 3 ti500 and Geforce 4 4600

Also forgot to mention that I use a single 512MB Ram

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cpthyland2 @ Nov. 28 2002,13:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Essentially the only thing I change is the video card, I have 768MB of addons - the Geforce 3 handles it fine, the other two 128MB video cards won't load unless I remove 1/2 the addons - any ideas??<span id='postcolor'>

Your video card should have nothing to do with the size of total addons you have. It is probably some other issue.

[cpthyland2 0]

That is what I thought at first - but it's the only thing I change even the video drivers remain the same, and I just swap the video card - one moment (gf3) loads the next moment (gf4) it loads but won't seem to display properly - just get a black screen for a long time then it goes solid green, then to some random shapes with the typical ofp colors - all the while I can hear the music fine in the background, and if I move the mouse I can hear the clicking when I mouse over the different options that should be availale - - only when I remove some of the addons then does the gf4 work - it's odd as heck.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 28 2002,21:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your video card should have nothing to do with the size of total addons you have.  It is probably some other issue.<span id='postcolor'>

Well, there was just a thread about this and Suma said that there is a possible connection between the CANT MEMORY MAP error message and 9700 cards.

He suggested installing the latest 9700 betas and, if that doesn't help, to download and install DirectX 9 beta.

Search the forum for "9700" in the title or look back a page ro two to find it.

[theavonlady 2]

Also, maybe it's an older problem. Search The FAQ for "green menu".

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Nov. 28 2002,14:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 28 2002,21:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your video card should have nothing to do with the size of total addons you have. It is probably some other issue.<span id='postcolor'>

Well, there was just a thread about this and Suma said that there is a possible connection between the CANT MEMORY MAP error message and 9700 cards.<span id='postcolor'>

And did that have to do with the total size of all addons? That would be a little odd, actually very.

[cpthyland2 0]

the 9700 works fine (when I strip out 1/2 the addons) - i have tried the beta drivers and dx9 rc0 still no luck with 768mb of addons - same with the gf4 card

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 28 2002,21:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And did that have to do with the total size of all addons?  That would be a little odd, actually very.<span id='postcolor'>

Suma said something about a possible memory leak by the drivers or DirectX under certain circumstances.

[cpthyland2 0]

bn880 - yep - only factor so far that seems to make a difference is the addons folder - that's why i posted after searching hi and low

avonlady - yep tried all the fixes for the green screen - no luck

[cpthyland2 0]

Some additional background - I am a devloper and a system engineer, If there was a memory leak - I'd like to know more about that thread - hopefully that would be something BIS could fix?

[bn880 5]

Okay, as I understand it, Suma says the AGP aperture memory size draws from the available virtual memory to OFP.

You have stated that you set yours to 32MB... this seems to have a lot to do with drivers and little with type of card v.s. total addon size. Technically speaking.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 28 2002,21:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Okay, as I understand it, Suma says the AGP aperture memory size draws from the available virtual memory to OFP.<span id='postcolor'>

I didn't see Suma saying that here.

[cpthyland2 0]

agreed- I use to have my agp aparture size set to 128 - i lowered it to 64 to get the gf4 and 9700 to work - I have tried it with it set at 4, 8, 32 and 64 if I go higher the 9700 and gf4 throw me a can't memory map o.pbo problem

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cpthyland2 @ Nov. 28 2002,21:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Some additional background - I am a devloper and a system engineer<span id='postcolor'>

I bet if you quit your profession and became an interior decorator or similar, the problem would magically disappear.

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Nov. 28 2002,14:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 28 2002,21:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Okay, as I understand it, Suma says the AGP aperture memory size draws from the available virtual memory to OFP.<span id='postcolor'>

I didn't see Suma saying that here. <span id='postcolor'>

I was no talking about there... and there he is saying that it is a driver issue.

Anyway, different card, different driver, try more virtual memory or different diver is my suggestion. I am not going to argue about this, I have no need to put a spin on technical facts.

[cpthyland2 0]

ok - I increased my paging file to min 1536 and max 2048, same resluts - no start menu etc with gf4 but works fine with gf3

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cpthyland2 @ Nov. 28 2002,14:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok - I increased my paging file to min 1536 and max 2048, same resluts - no start menu etc with gf4 but works fine with gf3<span id='postcolor'>

So it appears there is a problem with that 9700 driver... make sure to set the OFP memory sizes to maximum, in Flashpoint Preferences. (you probably have)

[cpthyland2 0]

i'm not sure it's with the 9700 driver, the geforce 4 has the same issues, only when I use the geforce 3 do I get things to work - with out changing other settings - I have yet to get the 9700 or geforce 4 to work with more that about 320MB of addons

[cpthyland2 0]

well interesting news, i tried the 30.82 nvidia drivers - the gefroce 4 now works with all the addons - I tried the 41.73 and had no luck so figured what the heck - try older drivers. Unfortunately with the 9700, there are no older drivers so I'm still in the same boat with that card - i can only run 320MB of addons

[Gamer_#DK# 1]

Hey I have the same problem with my Raddy. I have to set the AGP ap. to 32 mb or I get the O.pbo error.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with extra addons in my case as I keep my addon folder in pristine condition only extras in mine is the editor addon and a chopper or two.

On my GF4 I had no problem setting the AGP ap. to 128 but I did notice that If I had too many addons in my folder I would get the O.pbo. error.

It would also happen if I tried to set my own swap file, so I just set it on system managed and removed some addons and no problem anymore.

So what I learned with the GF4 was to do this, keep your addon folder clean and I would have a folder on my desktop with all the extra addons . When I would do a mission that requiered an extra addon I would just slap it in and off I went.

I should think you could do the same I mean really it is not as if you are going to use 768mb of addons at once....

As far as I know there is no work around for the Radeon AGP problem, but it is not really a problem m8, just clean out that addon folder and you are good to go

My main rig:

P4 @ 3.1

Abit IT7 Max2

512mb Corsair XMS pc3200 c2

Radeon 9700pro

2xMaxtor ATA133's  (Raid 0)

22" Iiyama Vision Master pro 512

Hope it helps

Gamer

[russin 0]

the funny color thing sound like addon conflict i no this happened to me i keep real good track of the addons i put in and by fluke i reconized if you got kegys editor upgrade 1.11 and have any othe editor ugrade pbo in the folder it seems to freak out ofp and i had to reinstall addon folder as i allways back it up.....

[RN Malboeuf 12]

I have dam near every addon released and have had no problems. addons that are not loaded by a mission do not affect others that are not loaded

[ale2999 0]

I actually think that all addons in ur addon folder are loaded when u play, so..... Check ur memory usage when u using addons and when not...