need some help

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

hello, i have some problems in terrain builder which i want to discuss it here step by step.

my first question is:

http://i.imgur.com/aN4r3gG.jpg (127 kB)

is this a bug or a mistake by me or normal ? the first arrow above shows the satmap, yet the second arrow at the bottom is the terrain.

i imported first the terrain, then the sat image. shouldnt they be at the same position ?

sat image is 2048x2048

terrain size in total is 20480m x 20480m

the left-bottom corner are:

easting (m): 500000.000

northing (m): 442127.390

it is a sample terrain for testing the terrain builder, i got it from here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNk6lpEGNJA

its in the description, its the "My Project Files" link and when u click the link, its the second file called "TutorialMapReal"

[itsdonjon 25]

You need to set all your layers at: 200000 / 0

Thats all i think.

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

ok now they are all at the bottom like in the first screenshot i posted, it looks like this:

http://i.imgur.com/VB6eISp.jpg (135 kB)

(the small picture inside the terrain is the sat image, if i enable the mask and normal sat, then its the same size as the sat image you see in the screenshot)

my question is: is it right that they are at the bottom of the mapframe or must i place the terrain, sat image etc in the middle of the mapframe like here:

http://i.imgur.com/G2nExEy.jpg (138 kB)

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

i have another problem:

if i add the terrain and then i edit the terrain size from 20480x20480 to 204800x204800 (204kmx204km) by right click on the terrain.xyz in the layers manager window > terrain coordinates & properties and then i use the mapframes and select the whole terrain, terrain builder crashes, why ?

[itsdonjon 25]

ok now they are all at the bottom like in the first screenshot i posted, it looks like this:

http://i.imgur.com/VB6eISp.jpg (135 kB)

(the small picture inside the terrain is the sat image, if i enable the mask and normal sat, then its the same size as the sat image you see in the screenshot)

my question is: is it right that they are at the bottom of the mapframe or must i place the terrain, sat image etc in the middle of the mapframe like here:

http://i.imgur.com/G2nExEy.jpg (138 kB)

Yeah, thats correct. They NEED to be at 200000 / 0!

To your second problem: You really want to do an 41k km² terrain? 1. You're a beginner, right? Start with a 5km² terrain. I mean really, thats WAAAAAAAAAY to big! 2. Could be possible that it's just to big for TB.

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

Yeah, thats correct. They NEED to be at 200000 / 0!

To your second problem: You really want to do an 41k km² terrain? 1. You're a beginner, right? Start with a 5km² terrain. I mean really, thats WAAAAAAAAAY to big! 2. Could be possible that it's just to big for TB.

thanks.

yes but 41km² is wrong. my terrain is 204km x 204km which is 41616km². i worked already on small terrain (ofcourse without placing objects) and it worked fine. now i want to learn how to create big terrain / increase terrain size. when i learned it, i will start learning placing objects by a small terrain and if it goes good, then i will learn filling big terrains.

also i want to create a big empty terrain for testing how arma 3 handle it and i want to release it to the public.

i saw 80km x 80km terrains and i even played a 2700km x 2700km terrain in arma 3.

i ask myself what did they done without making terrain builder crash, seems like i have to experiment with it.

[itsdonjon 25]

Mate, to be honest i think you got some numbers wrong. A 2700 x 2700 km terrain? This are 7,29 million km²! This is quite impossible. And i'm sure i had heard of it.

Start with the object placement on your small terrain, this is what consumes your time!

I just want to help you, you'd never finish a terrain this big.

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

Mate, to be honest i think you got some numbers wrong. A 2700 x 2700 km terrain? This are 7,29 million km²! This is quite impossible. And i'm sure i had heard of it.

Start with the object placement on your small terrain, this is what consumes your time!

I just want to help you, you'd never finish a terrain this big.

i swear it was 2700km x 2700km, here is a screenshot of the map: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=305407309

(more screenshots can be found @his steam profile. it was later abadoned, he send me the terrain via pm.

here are videos of it:

https://www.youtube.com/user/captainpuff420qc/videos

anyway, no help ? there is a terrain @armaholic out which is 81km x 81km, yet when i try to do 81km x 81km and select the whole terrain with the mapframe, it crashes, how did the guys done that ? without making terrain builder crash ?

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ok i think i found the solution:

when u increased the terrain size and you click on mapframe, do NOT select the whole map.

just click at the left-bottom corner like i show in this screenshot:

http://i.imgur.com/HZ2xywz.jpg (135 kB)

then it works! i got 200km x 200km ingame finally, its a open source map from someone which i have to ask for permission before i release it to the public, the original map is 20km x 20km

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

how can i disable that my terrain appear in the main menu as background ? i want the standart stratis cutscene in the background, not my terrain, its a fixed position screen

[anthariel 165]

You have probably launch ArmA 3 with the following parameter:

-World=MyWorld

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

You have probably launch ArmA 3 with the following parameter:

-World=MyWorld

no, thats the only parameter i use:

-mod=@CBA_A3;@zbe_cache;@ALiVE

[badluckburt 78]

When the game starts up, I think it will always show Altis or Stratis but once you've opened a map in the editor, that one shows when you go back to the menu.

And what exactly do you mean by 'fixed position screen'?

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

When the game starts up, I think it will always show Altis or Stratis but once you've opened a map in the editor, that one shows when you go back to the menu.

And what exactly do you mean by 'fixed position screen'?

hmm when i start the game, it shows the ocean of my map.

with fixed position i mean, that the camera in main menu doesnt move, it always look @ the same direction.

in the normal main menu, you see stratis from above but the camera moves, thats what i mean

[bushlurker 46]

When the game starts up, I think it will always show Altis or Stratis but once you've opened a map in the editor, that one shows when you go back to the menu.

Absolutely right. Normally at least, you get a BI terrain on launch, but once you go to the editor and load a different terrain, when you quit back out you get the "cutscene" for that terrain.

The cutscene is basically like a mini mission, with a camera instead of a player, which is included with the terrain itself, and plays behind the menus when in-game.

If you don't actually have a cutscene in your terrain, then it defaults instead to a fixed camera view set at the position dictated by the "seagullPos[]=" parameter in your main terrain config.cpp.

when i start the game, it shows the ocean of my map.

That sounds like the current "seagullPos" then, though you shouldn't see it at initial start.

That could be caused by a command in your start parameters, or possibly a parameter in your terrain config if you've copied Altis or Stratis configs and they have some sort of "priority" set...

B

Edited January 14, 2015 by Bushlurker

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

Absolutely right. Normally at least, you get a BI terrain on launch, but once you go to the editor and load a different terrain, when you quit back out you get the "cutscene" for that terrain.

The cutscene is basically like a mini mission, with a camera instead of a player, which is included with the terrain itself, and plays behind the menus when in-game.

If you don't actually have a cutscene in your terrain, then it defaults instead to a fixed camera view set at the position dictated by the "seagullPos[]=" parameter in your main terrain config.cpp.

That sounds like the current "seagullPos" then, though you shouldn't see it at initial start.

That coupld be caused by a command in your start parameters, or possibly a parameter in your terrain config if you've copied Altis or Stratis configs and they have some sort of "priority" set...

B

thank you very much.

a question: can we edit the distance of the satimage ? i mean if we can edit which distance the satelitte image ingame appear.

when i fly 50 meters above my terrain and the satelitte image appear, could i increase it to 100 meters (just a example)

[curtac123 10]

thank you very much.

a question: can we edit the distance of the satimage ? i mean if we can edit which distance the satelitte image ingame appear.

when i fly 50 meters above my terrain and the satelitte image appear, could i increase it to 100 meters (just a example)

Yo dude did you ever find out why the terrain and sat where completely diffrent sizes if so could you please tell me how i fix this.

[gmangavin 10]

Sorry I am new to bohemia forums and I thought this would create a new post :(

Anyways I see that being I replied to two post I now have the option.

Edited January 15, 2015 by gmangavin
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[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

Yo dude did you ever find out why the terrain and sat where completely diffrent sizes if so could you please tell me how i fix this.

what do you mean exactly ? if you have a 20km x 20km terrain for example, then you CAN have a 20000x20000 satimage which would give you a 1m/px but you can have a smaller size which give you less quality in terms of satelitte image

[curtac123 10]

what do you mean exactly ? if you have a 20km x 20km terrain for example, then you CAN have a 20000x20000 satimage which would give you a 1m/px but you can have a smaller size which give you less quality in terms of satelitte image

i mean like your pic (this) http://i.imgur.com/VB6eISp.jpg

My terrain is one size all the others e.g sat is 2048x2048 and normals and mask and the terrain is huge...

even though i export it from height builder 2048x2048?

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

i mean like your pic (this) http://i.imgur.com/VB6eISp.jpg

My terrain is one size all the others e.g sat is 2048x2048 and normals and mask and the terrain is huge...

even though i export it from height builder 2048x2048?

ahh. you see in my picture on the right side the layers manager where the sat, mask etc are. on the satimage (or whatever you want to resize), right-click on the file you want to edit and there you can define the size. for example: if you have a 20480 x 20480 terrain, you must write the 20480 x 20480 into the height and width box to get the same size like your terrain.

[curtac123 10]

ahh. you see in my picture on the right side the layers manager where the sat, mask etc are. on the satimage (or whatever you want to resize), right-click on the file you want to edit and there you can define the size. for example: if you have a 20480 x 20480 terrain, you must write the 20480 x 20480 into the height and width box to get the same size like your terrain.

nice on pal. :D

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

thank you very much.

a question: can we edit the distance of the satimage ? i mean if we can edit which distance the satelitte image ingame appear.

when i fly 50 meters above my terrain and the satelitte image appear, could i increase it to 100 meters (just a example)

nvm. figured it out. it can be defined in the config. the line is "fullDetailDist ="

there you can define how far your high quality ground texture can be seen. maximum number you can go is 12000 (12km) so this means you would see 12km no satelitte image but 12km high quality texture whereever you go, how high you are etc.

to moderators: please rename this theard to "need help? ask a question!" so we use this theard if anyone has a question, needs help or wants to ask anything about terrain making, he can ask here and someone else can answer so the whole community could benefit from it when solutions and answers will be posted to public

[Arma3goodCPUlowFPS 12]

ok i have another problem:

when i run the dbo_afghanistan 80km x 80km terrain from here: http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=18805

i can run this terrain fine with units placing via zeus and/or using the AI spawn script pack from here: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?165089-AI-Spawn-Script-Pack

yet when i use my empty terrain in 80km x 80km size, then:

- it doesnt run the AI spawn script pack, it just doesnt spawn AI, even when i set up everything correctly.

- when i place BLUFOR and OPFOR units (if its a few or a whole group) and they start to fight each other, the game freeze and i have to exit arma 3 via taskmanager.

same with 120km x 120km terrain:

when i used take on helicopters south east asia terrain (120km x 120km), it worked fine with units

but when i use my 122km x 122km terrain, the result is the same as above.

here you can test it yourself with my 122km x 122km terrain:

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=27870

[colddna 5]

does  it have to be 200000 / 0?

[Richie 330]

does  it have to be 200000 / 0?

 

Yes.

Easting 200000

Northing 0