Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You seem to have a commanding grasp of the military there... <span id='postcolor'> They don't call me Mr. Smarts for nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 12 2002,02:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You seem to have a commanding grasp of the military there... Â <span id='postcolor'> They don't call me Mr. Smarts for nothing. <span id='postcolor'> Infact they don't call you Mr.Smarts at all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Infact they don't call you Mr.Smarts at all... <span id='postcolor'> Â I think I will go cry myself to sleep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 12 2002,02:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ Aug. 12 2002,02:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You seem to have a commanding grasp of the military there... Â <span id='postcolor'> They don't call me Mr. Smarts for nothing. <span id='postcolor'> Infact they don't call you Mr.Smarts at all... <span id='postcolor'> Reminds me of the episode of Red Dwarf where Rimmer asks them to call him by his old school name, Ace. Lister wryly replies 'No one ever called you Ace! Maybe Ace-hole!' I voted for the Marines because they are generally the 'beachead' guys who get a lot of thankless tasks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 12, 2002 Ahhh brit comadies, some of the best. Especially Fawlty Towers, but to get back on topic...... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I voted for the Marines because they are generally the 'beachead' guys who get a lot of thankless tasks.<span id='postcolor'> What about at Normandy? That was the Army who inavded Frances, for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted August 12, 2002 I thought Marines and the Army were in on Normandy? Besides, it was the Marines who mainly fought the war in the Pacific. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 12, 2002 Well did the army not fight most of the war in Europe? I guess mariens are all right, but they just are a dull branch of the miliatry to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted August 12, 2002 Army + Marines fought in Europe. It was almost entirely the Marines that fought in the Pacific. How are they a dull branch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloney 0 Posted August 12, 2002 Enlighten me on the Marines fighting in Eurpoe... Maybe in WWI but certainly not in WWII. Their involvement may have been limited to auxilary roles but I doubt they fought as infantry units. (although all Marines are Infantrymen (and women) Army has got to be my favorite. No one has as much kick ass stuff rolled into one big ball of love. Marine My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benze 0 Posted August 12, 2002 Army: Are Not Ready to be Marines Yet. Airforce bombs random things and claims it was shooting at them, Marines shoot people and do the real work, Army whines about the Marines since they took over their job and do it better, Navy gets the Marines to places and shoots Tomahawks at random buildings deemed terrorist. So it all works out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted August 12, 2002 Basically, the Marines go where the fights go. They may not have had a very big role in Europe, but they did almost all the work in the Pacific. Are you failing to see that? What does the Army have that the Marines dont? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted August 12, 2002 I'd like an American to explain to me the benefit of the Marine Corps being a seperate branch of the military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted August 12, 2002 5--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 12 2002,055)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'd like an American to explain to me the benefit of the Marine Corps being a seperate branch of the military.<span id='postcolor'> well the thing is that from what i have heard, there is no benefit, if you wana go to the service to make a carreer and learn things for future jobs the army, airforce and the navy are ware to go. the marines don't pamper you there, the are strickly down to business. if you wana got to a certian college in a certian state, they will put you some other place that somebody else wanted to go there, while some other guy gets to go to your selected college. though thats just what im hearing, though i wouldn't doubt it. i onced worked w/ a cheff when i was working in a resteruant and he told me he only stayed in the marines for 4 years cuzz he hated it so much, he wanted to leave sooner but the rules are once you finish training your ass belongs to them until after 4 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted August 12, 2002 The Mariens are just the Navy's ground force. Army has to be coolest branch next to Airforce, nothing can compare to the B-52. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E6Hotel 0 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 12 2002,05<!--emo&)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'd like an American to explain to me the benefit of the Marine Corps being a seperate branch of the military.<span id='postcolor'> To paraphrase "Brute" Krulak: The American people don't NEED a Marine Corps, but they WANT one. We're self-contained. Our forward-deployed MEU(SOC)s can deploy anywhere in the world and conduct combined arms operations for up to 30 days without re-supply. In a nutshell, we're the door-kickers, paving the way for the Army to come in with their more powerful (but slower) assets. Semper Fi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Fox 0 Posted August 12, 2002 I prefer the Army in the way of Special Forces like the Delta or any of the Special Operations. Divisions like 101st Air Assult(why isn't Airborne anymore?! ), 82nd Airborne, and any of the Special Forces Divisions are extreamly useful in modern conflicts. But I will always love Delta Force and the 75th Ranger Regiment. Elite forces rule! Armor isn't as useful since its becoming low intensity peacekeeping but they are good to have in places like Iraq. Mechanized are good for invading a small country. I'm only a kid so feel free to ignore/critisize me(except for my spelling 'cause u need spellcheck on forum) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E6Hotel 0 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Aug. 12 2002,05:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well the thing is that from what i have heard, there is no benefit, if you wana go to the service to make a carreer and learn things for future jobs the army, airforce and the navy are ware to go. the marines don't pamper you there, the are strickly down to business. if you wana got to a certian college in a certian state, they will put you some other place that somebody else wanted to go there, while some other guy gets to go to your selected college. though thats just what im hearing, though i wouldn't doubt it. i onced worked w/ a cheff when i was working in a resteruant and he told me he only stayed in the marines for 4 years cuzz he hated it so much, he wanted to leave sooner but the rules are once you finish training your ass belongs to them until after 4 years.<span id='postcolor'> If your goal is to learn a trade, do yourself a favor and enlist in one of the other services. I've said this before, but the only logical reason to join the Marines is to be a Marine. Don't get me wrong, we've got the same technical / intellectual jobs as the other services -- programmers, avionics, satellite communication, etc. It's just that you can get the same training in the other services with less sacrifice on your part. People who want the easy way out usually don't do well with us. On the other hand, self-improvement is stressed in the USMC. If you want to go to school and can fit it into your work schedule no one is going to trip you up. You just have to keep your priorities straight: (1) Mission Accomplishment (2) Troop Welfare Semper Fi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (E6Hotel @ Aug. 12 2002,06:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Aug. 12 2002,05:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">well the thing is that from what i have heard, there is no benefit, if you wana go to the service to make a carreer and learn things for future jobs the army, airforce and the navy are ware to go. the marines don't pamper you there, the are strickly down to business. if you wana got to a certian college in a certian state, they will put you some other place that somebody else wanted to go there, while some other guy gets to go to your selected college. though thats just what im hearing, though i wouldn't doubt it. i onced worked w/ a cheff when i was working in a resteruant and he told me he only stayed in the marines for 4 years cuzz he hated it so much, he wanted to leave sooner but the rules are once you finish training your ass belongs to them until after 4 years.<span id='postcolor'> If your goal is to learn a trade, do yourself a favor and enlist in one of the other services. I've said this before, but the only logical reason to join the Marines is to be a Marine. Don't get me wrong, we've got the same technical / intellectual jobs as the other services -- programmers, avionics, satellite communication, etc. It's just that you can get the same training in the other services with less sacrifice on your part. People who want the easy way out usually don't do well with us. On the other hand, self-improvement is stressed in the USMC. If you want to go to school and can fit it into your work schedule no one is going to trip you up. You just have to keep your priorities straight: (1) Mission Accomplishment (2) Troop Welfare Semper Fi<span id='postcolor'> hmmmmm, you sound much like a recruiter...... you wouldnt happen to be the same person that would happen to be bothering me w/ the troubling phone calls and the hordes of letters loaded w/ marines stickers would ya? <span style='font-size:27pt;line-height:100%'>Would ya?!</span> <span style='font-size:57pt;line-height:100%'>WOULD YA?!!</span> ..........im sorry......just... got a little over reacted. (locks himself in the closet) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E6Hotel 0 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Aug. 12 2002,06:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hmmmmm, you sound much like a recruiter...... you wouldnt happen to be the same person that would happen to be bothering me w/ the troubling phone calls and the hordes of letters loaded w/ marines stickers would ya? <span style='font-size:27pt;line-height:100%'>Would ya?!</span> <span style='font-size:57pt;line-height:100%'>WOULD YA?!!</span> ..........im sorry......just... got a little over reacted. (locks himself in the closet) <span id='postcolor'> <coughing up Mountain Dew through my nose, imagining myself as a recruiter> Heh. No, I'm not a recruiter, we're all like this. I assure you I could never try to convince someone to join the USMC. You'll know if it's for you. If there is any doubt out there, DO NOT BASE ANY DECISIONS ON MY OPINIONS. Think for yourself and do your research. Semper Fi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiderman6999 0 Posted August 12, 2002 Air Force all the way, was going to go into the Marines but i had several family members tell me that they would kneecap me if i did. every male member of my family has been in the service, mostly Navy but i dont like the water. hell i get severe anxiety just going over the pond to Europe & southern Asia. love the Marines discipline though, if i was not in the Air Force then i would certainly be in the Marines. spidey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (spiderman6999 @ Aug. 12 2002,09:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Air Force all the way, was going to go into the Marines but i had several family members tell me that they would kneecap me if i did. Â every male member of my family has been in the service, mostly Navy but i dont like the water. hell i get severe anxiety just going over the pond to Europe & southern Asia. love the Marines discipline though, if i was not in the Air Force then i would certainly be in the Marines. spidey<span id='postcolor'> wow..that's odd....i thought marines were closer to navy then air force is... anyway, any bransh, as long as you make something out of it seems ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiderman6999 0 Posted August 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 12 2002,09:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (spiderman6999 @ Aug. 12 2002,09:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Air Force all the way, was going to go into the Marines but i had several family members tell me that they would kneecap me if i did. Â every male member of my family has been in the service, mostly Navy but i dont like the water. hell i get severe anxiety just going over the pond to Europe & southern Asia. love the Marines discipline though, if i was not in the Air Force then i would certainly be in the Marines. spidey<span id='postcolor'> wow..that's odd....i thought marines were closer to navy then air force is... anyway, any bransh, as long as you make something out of it seems ok.<span id='postcolor'> Ralph, I wasnt trying to say any branch was closer to any other, but in terms of discipline i like the way Marines handle their subordinates. i have a couple of troops that i supervise and sometimes (well, more often than not) i have to get after them about certain things, then they say im being to hard on them. thats when im told by my supervisor that i should be nice, whereas ive witnessed a Marine supervisor give his troops an order and they carry it out no questions asked. maybe its the quality of troops coming in nowadays. spidey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAF 0 Posted August 15, 2002 No war in modern times will be won without air power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites