Paratrooper 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ July 29 2002,04:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It just is not interesting to me so I do not really listen, I can always retake test and make a highre grade. My friends and I usually sit over and do stupid stuff like hit ourselves and other dumb things. Â I dread english class.....<span id='postcolor'> I can see why! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted July 29, 2002 I just remebered! I have 3 classes with my english teacher! Oh no! I have English II, journalism, and Sat prep. I wish she would give me my own column in the paper, I would call it the Pen of The South. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ July 29 2002,048) It just is not interesting to me so I do not really listen, I can always retake test and make a highre grade. My friends and I usually sit over and do stupid stuff like hit ourselves and other dumb things. I dread english class..... I can see why! <span id='postcolor'> LOL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ July 29 2002,04:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now children... Â <span id='postcolor'> Don't make me strangulate your objection! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted July 29, 2002 If I only had a comeback... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted July 29, 2002 Well my Freshman class was lat year and the best word to describe it is boaring, Rome and Juliet= Boaring, Greek Mythology= Boaring, Little Red Riding Hood= Boaring, and more boaring junk was present. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted July 29, 2002 Sounded really "boaring". So how many tunnels did you make? Romeo and Juliet in our class was funny. We had a good time with that story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted July 29, 2002 I feel realy sorry for people who can't appreciate Shakespeare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I feel realy sorry for people who can't appreciate Shakespeare.<span id='postcolor'> Why? It is very very boadring to me and I had rather be shot in the chest shirtless with a pinatball gun 20 times than read that stuff, but that is just me, ye likith what ye likith and I likith what I likith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ July 29 2002,04:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Rome and Juliet= Boaring, Greek Mythology= Boaring, Little Red Riding Hood= Boaring, and more boaring junk was present.<span id='postcolor'> I suppose that you weren't to fond of your English class too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Duke_of_Ray @ July 29 2002,04:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I feel realy sorry for people who can't appreciate Shakespeare.<span id='postcolor'> Why? It is very very boadring to me and I had rather be shot in the chest shirtless with a pinatball gun 20 times than read that stuff, but that is just me, ye likith what ye likith and I likith what I likith. <span id='postcolor'> You ay find it "boarding" but Shakespeare is a truly great playwright (or play wrights as some suggest). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke_of_Ray 0 Posted July 29, 2002 He may be good, but he is not my cup of tea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted July 29, 2002 Shakespeare is the quintessence of dramtic literary perfection. He takes every day ingredients, mixes them together with a dash of humour or sadness (depending on the recipe) and after careful mixing  and preperation, presents us with the Meal of Truth. Basically what I am trying to say is that his plays are so true..so much a picture of life and human nature.. that they are timeless.  Witness all the different time periods that his works have been played in. Richard the II in the 1930's, Romeo and Juliet in the 1990's, and Othello in a high school of the new millenium.  You can play his works in any time period and the basic thematic elements still work. But hey, what do I know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted July 29, 2002 Yes, he was a very good playwright. But I still find it a bit boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ July 29 2002,05:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Shakespeare is the quintessence of dramtic literary perfection. He takes every day ingredients, mixes them together with a dash of humour or sadness (depending on the recipe) and after careful mixing  and preperation, presents us with the Meal of Truth. Basically what I am trying to say is that his plays are so true..so much a picture of life and human nature.. that they are timeless.  Witness all the different time periods that his works have been played in. Richard the II in the 1930's, Romeo and Juliet in the 1990's, and Othello in a high school of the new millenium.  You can play his works in any time period and the basic themeatic elements still work. But hey, what do I know? <span id='postcolor'> You're right, I've done quite a lot of drama myself (I have a national diploma actually ) and Shakespeare is the absolute best to act. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ July 29 2002,04:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I feel realy sorry for people who can't appreciate Shakespeare.<span id='postcolor'> I find Shakespearian English as difficult to read as Russian (ie not very freaking easy for me). Some of the stories are ok, but just the sheer difference of the language makes me think it should be taught in a separate class. Stick to Mark Twain, George Orwell, ect in English. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ July 29 2002,05:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ July 29 2002,04:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I feel realy sorry for people who can't appreciate Shakespeare.<span id='postcolor'> I find Shakespearian English as difficult to read as Russian (ie not very freaking easy for me). Some of the stories are ok, but just the sheer difference of the language makes me think it should be taught in a separate class. Stick to Mark Twain, George Orwell, ect in English.<span id='postcolor'> Its good to learn the whole range of English. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ July 29 2002,05:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Its good to learn the whole range of English.<span id='postcolor'> yea yea, so ye sayeth, byt doth it helpeth if thou doth not use it in thy every day life? If you want to learn Shakespeare, go nuts, but it's not practical English anymore. It should be optional. I'll tell you, on the first day of my Grade 13 English Writers class, when the teacher said "No more Shakespeare", we all cheered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ July 29 2002,05:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ July 29 2002,05:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Its good to learn the whole range of English.<span id='postcolor'> yea yea, so ye sayeth, byt doth it helpeth if thou doth not use it in thy every day life? If you want to learn Shakespeare, go nuts, but it's not practical English anymore. It should be optional. I'll tell you, on the first day of my Grade 13 English Writers class, when the teacher said "No more Shakespeare", we all cheered.<span id='postcolor'> The language really isn't that much different. Once you get into it it seems normal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted July 29, 2002 To each his own I guess . I have no problem with languages, I know 3 and from those I can decypher a few more, I just find I can't be bothered to read one that's not too "reader friendly" AND isn't widely used any more. I usually went for the Coles notes and BSed my way from there whenever Shakespeare came up on a test. *edit* And it's not that I don't like to read...I devoured stuff like Lord of the Flies, 1984, Brave New World, To Kill a Mockingbird, Catch-22. And those are just some of the books in English I've liked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ July 29 2002,05:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">To each his own I guess . I have no problem with languages, I know 3 and from those I can decypher a few more, I just find I can't be bothered to read one that's not too "reader friendly" AND isn't widely used any more. I usually went for the Coles notes and BSed my way from there whenever Shakespeare came up on a test.<span id='postcolor'> LOL. Here's what you do... Spend a few weeks with the middle english text of the Canterbury Tales. And work it all out into modern english. You'll soon come to see that Shakespeares english is not at all bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ July 29 2002,05:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here's what you do... Spend a few weeks with the middle english text of the Canterbury Tales. Â And work it all out into modern english. You'll soon come to see that Shakespeares english is not at all bad. <span id='postcolor'> I'll do that the day you start reading the works of Pushkin (Russia's equivalent to Shakespeare) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ July 29 2002,05:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And it's not that I don't like to read...I devoured stuff like Lord of the Flies, 1984, Brave New World, To Kill a Mockingbird, Catch-22. And those are just some of the books in English I've liked <span id='postcolor'> Great books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted July 29, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ July 29 2002,05:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'll do that the day you start reading the works of Pushkin (Russia's equivalent to Shakespeare)<span id='postcolor'> Might sound insane, but I have always wanted to learn to speak and read Russian. Not for Pushkin though...for Chekov. (and for all you peopns out there, that's Anton, not the guy on Star Trek ) Short of going to school, can you reccomend a good way to learn, Tovarisch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites