Sakai 1 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Hey there and pardon dear moderators if this is in wrong section :) As my mod FAC ((Forze Armate di Capraia)) is coming to its end aka everything for it is done, I have decided to continue modding but this time to create a big project, something that will be better. So what is the plan? Plan is simple, I have decided to create another "fictional" army, well back in time the army and nation was actually real, we are talking about "Rhodesia" I want to re-create Rhodesian Army, Air Force and so on HOWEVER in modern days! and therefor Im looking for fellow addon maker's that would like to help me out and work together on a big project, Rhodesian Army project as under name "Rhodesian Escalation" would of take place in 2013, 48 years since the nation was created and survived the Bush War, in the current era they are part of UN and work closely with another nation's in peacekeeping operation's however the "Second Bush War" has escalated as the Communist Nationalist's demand "communism" secretly supported by Takistan and Russia once again Rhodesia is fighting a lone war against communist factions. Who do I look for? Anyone really, anyone that know how to make models ((oh god I wish)), edit model's, texture, knowledge in Rhodesia and so on, anything! I really want to create another project, I have tons of time for it as you even probably can see from FAC I post daily updates because I do not sleep im a robot ;p If anyone is perhaps interested in joining me and creating a new addon/mod that will be big let me know! If not... I shall be sad and work on it by myself :( Thank you! I hope some of you will think about it! P.S. Sorry for spelling mistakes if any, 6 AM and still on foot researching for the project :P Edited January 30, 2013 by Sakai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yevgeni89 163 Posted January 30, 2013 Sadly can only provide you knowledge and research, a lot of these things the Rhodesians used have been made its only the matter of getting permission for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakai 1 Posted January 30, 2013 That is fine as it is :D Everything is useful! As well forgot to add, if you want to join and make this uber, PM me, have questions? leave it here :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troubadour 1 Posted January 31, 2013 I as well can only provide knowledge and research. This is my first post so I understand you may be a little hesitant, as I could be just some 13 year old kid who once read an article and thinks he is an expert. Well, I am not 13, I am 24. I have a little actual real military experience. I've been reading and studying about the military since I was a boy. I have read extensively on Rhodesia and the bush war and it has been a hobby of mine for quite some time. I know an extensive amount about real world gear and weaponry and I have actual physical real life experience with both... Meaning touching, seeing, wearing, using, etc not just reading articles about them. The first thing I can tell you about your Rhodesia 2013, is it's a wonderful idea, but however, another member has suggested that all the stuff they use is already available. However, I don't really think that is a case. I don't think that they would be using the FN FALS AND MAG 58s from four decades ago. They, like almost every other Military has, would of moved on and more than likely away from the 7.62 caliber for their main battle rifle. More than likely they would use a modernized Vector R5, or gifted AR rifles from the U.S. We can also pretend they are a bit richer of a nation and don't have hand me downs from other nations and then go off a little bit, towards other European weaponry. The infamous Rhodesian web gear would still probably be seen, albeit probably a little updated. With some SADF brown gear thrown in as well. Modern MOLLE gear would be highly unlikely as well. Anyways, I started going on a bit of a rant. I'll stop now, but let me know if you want my help/advising and I'll more than happily provide it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakai 1 Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Plan for Rhodesian Army in our era of 2013 is a licensed produced modernized FN FAL, something similar to SA-58 FAL, which if I am not wrong uses FN FNC Scope Mount Rail to mount scopes which is being made by my friend so without it we cannot really start working on the gun, there will be multiple variants of them. Reason why they will be using modernized fn fal's is because they depended a lot on them in the Bush War's from British L1A1 to South African R1's. Soldier's will be aimed to look a bit like the old rhodesian's with berets and bush hats. The model's will be kept as unique ((by unique I mean they won't be BIS model's - probably :))) Send me a PM if you are perhaps feeling like helping us out :) Reference of the sa-58: http://www.tulsafirearms.com/images/DSArms_FAL_SA58_TAC.gif http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as24/fal_dsa_sa58osw.jpg http://www.gunlistings.org/uploads/2_rifles_dsa_sa58_fal_48583.jpg http://www.houstonarmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/900x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/D/S/DSA_SA58CP16RL_1.jpg Edited January 31, 2013 by Sakai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairborne 2594 Posted February 1, 2013 GALILs/R4 would do just fine, south africa backed rhodesia for a good part of the war. Maybe some Israeli Tavors too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yevgeni89 163 Posted February 1, 2013 Tavors I could see it for the Rhoadie Scouts but not a standard rifle by any means, I dont even think israel has fully issued it out to all of its own troops yet, I could be wrong though. Galil's yeah I could see them, but think of this like a mix of old and new flavor, that nostalgic feel with a modern influence, if you had to compare it to anything it'll be close to 1990's SADF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakai 1 Posted February 1, 2013 The point you forget is :) modernizing costs less than buy new stuff! :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yevgeni89 163 Posted February 1, 2013 Depends on what your modernizing haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakai 1 Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) This is pretty much playing around in oxygen and vilas's mlod's Nothing that will really appear in the mod, because its just a litte shitty work, im just showing of what kind of modernized rhodesian fn fal will look like one day: ((not even finished, still waiting for the FN FNC scope mount from my friend, without it work cannot be really started on the guns, yap without texture in buldozer it looks utter shite)) So as you see, small similarity to the DSA SA-58: http://skirtday.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/dsa-inc-sa58-carbine-urban-camo_1.jpg?w=810 Edited February 1, 2013 by Sakai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troubadour 1 Posted February 1, 2013 Tavors I could see it for the Rhoadie Scouts but not a standard rifle by any means, I dont even think israel has fully issued it out to all of its own troops yet, I could be wrong though.Galil's yeah I could see them, but think of this like a mix of old and new flavor, that nostalgic feel with a modern influence, if you had to compare it to anything it'll be close to 1990's SADF. Israeli's themselves have already switched over from the Tavor, to the "Micro Tavor", which has very little externally and internally to do with the previous Tavor. I'd also definitely believe seeing them in the hands of some sort of Special units or Scouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yevgeni89 163 Posted February 1, 2013 That I did not know, also has anyone ever seen this thing ? http://www.libriscrowe.com/non/Images/Rhodesian%20Uzi.jpeg the rhoadie copy of the Uzi , http://www.ediy.co.nz/site/images/98562.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troubadour 1 Posted February 1, 2013 That looks a lot like the Polish 9MM smg from back in the day. http://world.guns.ru/smg/pl/pm-4-e.html I believe Vilas' makes a weapon pack with it in there. Also, another point to make is that towards the end of the war the G3A2 saw a lot of use. So there would be those in rotation as well. Seeing as the G3 has an actual grenade launcher, you could give that to all the Grenadiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakai 1 Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) G3 were only used when South Africa has stopped supplying Rhodesia, G3 was only used as support as well as to this time Zimbabwe uses FN FAL's as it could of use G3's or AK'S :p, FN FAL was used the most and so FN FAL is finial as it will be main assault rifle. And once again it will be a modified FN FAL so no need to worry it wont be vanilla fn fal, much will be changed in look and config. Edited February 1, 2013 by Sakai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yevgeni89 163 Posted February 1, 2013 What are you thinking for tank crews? in 2013 back then it was the akms, but micro galil or the shortened version I forget the name galil SAR? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakai 1 Posted February 1, 2013 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/r_1_kommando-tfb.jpg http://www.cybergun.com/media/200929_fn_fal__091212900_1139_24042012.jpg Something like this using 5.56 NATO cartridge or 7.62 NATO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yevgeni89 163 Posted February 1, 2013 thats sick, and probably 7.62, one round universal for the army haha for small arms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites