looks like BI are not interested in constructive cristicism...

[kevorkien 1]

I went through the process of creating a BI forum account for a completely different purpose.

I wanted to rant a bit. To rave. But foremost to give some suggestions that I thought would be common sense.

I knew there would be many proponents to the BI cause - their games have quite the following.

However it seems apparent to me that BI is not the least bit interested in constructive criticism.

From the sheer number of hurdles that I had to jump to make this post happen, I can tell this.

I understand the need to rule out spam bots, but I can count at least 4 preventative measures that wanted to stop this post from happen.

And there are only 2 types of people that would put up with all that.

1. Very dedicated people and

2. Very angry people

Just as I can surmise that these measures are in place because BI must be sick of anti-BI behaviour, I'm sure you can surmise which category I might fall into right now.

It is easy to deal with people from category 1. They are like religious zealots. They will forgive all transgressions from the almighty, defending and destroy all in the name of love. They will put up with bugs and poor development choices, putting them down to the tiny freckles that make their loved one unique and precious in their eyes. It is the C1's that make dealing with those from category 2 even easier.

Dealing with those that fall into C2 is easy. In the case they are not banned at the first comment they make, everyone from C1 will bombard them with flames, and delight in the telling them how wrong they are in their views that their beloved game is some how possibly flawed - inevitably incensed into writing something over inflammatory against BI, it's products or proponents.

In the end, the game will be pushed forward by the diehards.

Suggestions will fall by the wayside,

and what could have been a great game will end up being mediocre at best, just like this post.

I wanted to add.

To construct.

Instead I have deconstructed - my original suggestions forgotten for now.

If somehow I am still a forum member when I next connect, perhaps I may try again, hopefully without distraction.

Until then I welcome your comments with open arms and a firm back foot.

[[frl]myke 14]

However it seems apparent to me that BI is not the least bit interested in constructive criticism.

From the sheer number of hurdles that I had to jump to make this post happen, I can tell this.

I understand the need to rule out spam bots, but I can count at least 4 preventative measures that wanted to stop this post from happen.

Please take note that the Forums Moderators aren't paid for the job. We do this on our freetime out of pure kindness and dedication to the BI Games. So, we prefer to spend this time on constructive work instead of endlessly delete spambots. We would also prefer that such measurements wouldn't be necessary but sadly it is.

However it seems apparent to me that BI is not the least bit interested in constructive criticism.

BI is very interested in constructive criticism, but (obviously) they're annoyed by people just ranting unconstructively.

Best proof: https://dev-heaven.net/projects/cis/issues

BI is listening very closely to the community. If you feel otherwise, well, what goes around, comes around. Maybe less ranting and more really constructive criticism could help there.

Dealing with those that fall into C2 is easy. In the case they are not banned at the first comment they make, everyone from C1 will bombard them with flames, and delight in the telling them how wrong they are in their views that their beloved game is some how possibly flawed - inevitably incensed into writing something over inflammatory against BI, it's products or proponents.

Here we have one of the problems: people not following the rules they've agreed to. So did you.

§18) No public discussion on how the forum is moderated

If you have questions/complaints/comments about the forum or moderators please PM them to a moderator, we will do our utmost to reply to any that we receive. If you have an issue that you feel cannot be solved by another moderator then please PM the head moderator (Placebo), he will be happy to look into the matter. You may also ask your questions in the "Ask a mod" thread; however that thread is not to be used to attack/rant against specific moderators or about specific rules but more for questions/answers.

People are never banned for posting critics. Mostly they are banned for their manners, or better, the absence of it.

Suggestions will fall by the wayside,

Suggestions will be heard, ever. If they're worth it, they're taken into consideration. And if the effort is worth it, they will be realized. For obvious reasons they can't and wont take every suggestion into consideration. You don't have to be happy about this fact but you have to accept it.

[Placebo 29]

However it seems apparent to me that BI is not the least bit interested in constructive criticism.

From the sheer number of hurdles that I had to jump to make this post happen, I can tell this.

I understand the need to rule out spam bots, but I can count at least 4 preventative measures that wanted to stop this post from happen.

All forums use anti-spambot measures, we get dozens of new accounts per day, 816 new accounts this month alone, with hardly any complaints about how difficult it is to sign up, occasionally I get an email from someone looking for help signing up, the option was also there for you to send an email if you were having problems signing up.

There's no correlation between the process required for signing up to the forums and our desire (or lack thereof) for "constructive criticism".

As you say your post didn't end up being anything other than a complaint about the signup procedure so I guess there's no need for it to be discussed further :)