News from the world of sniping

[Aculaud 0]

It appears the fabled M24 rifle is available to the public through remington. Direct quote:

"Remington is now offering the M24 SWS for sale through their law enforcement channels. This is a big jump from their military only availability of the M24. There appears to be some slight differences between the one used by the US Army and the one available for sale. Never the less, it is still a huge development! No word on pricing yet"

My guess is, its simply not deadly accurate at extremely long ranges anymore. Still...

In other news, Canadian snipers are doing quite well in the war on terrorism. Direct quote:

"Several teams of canadian snipers have performed exceptionally well in Afghanistan. With 5 individual team members to receive U.S. Bronze Stars for actions performed while attached to a Scout Platoon from the U.S. 187th Brigade. One team made a kill from 2430 meters (2670 yards) using a McMillan TAC-50."

[Darkhawk 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aculaud @ May 29 2002,20:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">2430 meters (2670 yards) using a McMillan TAC-50.<span id='postcolor'>

Go Canada!

[Aculaud 0]

Yeah really!!!

Theres only one other sniper i'v heard of who made a similar shot

[ralphwiggum 6]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One team made a kill from 2430 meters (2670 yards) using a McMillan TAC-50." <span id='postcolor'>

shoot..that IS GOOD!

[FetishFool 0]

The difference between the US Army M24 and the Civ M24 will most likely be minor.

Maybe the trigger will be made by a different company, but still be exactly the same trigger as on the Army M24

Or maybe the barrel will have different markings on it, but still be the exact same barrel as on the Army M24.

They do that with all their Mil-to-Civ weapons.

And that Canadian 2km+ shot got a lot of shit from the US.

The US denied the legitimacy of the shot in every way they could. They even said that the Canadians had no right making that shot because they were supposed to be on a support mission only.

[Mister Frag 0]

Two comments/observations:

1. Making the rifle available through the law enforcement sales channel is not the same as making it available to the public.

2. The military M24s are put together by military armorers, from hand-selected components and rifles, have hand-lapped bolts and scope rings, bedded actions, honed sears and triggers etc.. I'm not sure who will be doing that work for Remington, but I doubt that the same amount of care and effort will be expended. If it is, the rifle will VERY expensive, and one might as well go to any of a number of custom rifle shops and get something that is in the same league for less money.

[E6Hotel 0]

As far as shooting goes, that's not TOO bad -- especially for Canadians.  They were obviously USMC-trained.  Heh.  

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And that Canadian 2km+ shot got a lot of shit from the US.

The US denied the legitimacy of the shot in every way they could.  They even said that the Canadians had no right making that shot because they were supposed to be on a support mission only.<span id='postcolor'>

Err, you did read about the Bronze Stars?  I can honestly say that I haven't seen anything remotely critical of the Canadian snipers.  Not sure who would've made these statements, but I'll bet they didn't come from the Americans who were actually on the battlefield.  

As I recall, there was an incident a few weeks ago where one of the snipers was returned to Canada pending court-martial for an encounter (?) with an American army chaplain.  Could this be the negativity you're referring to?

Semper Fi

[Aculaud 0]

Iv only heard of one other sniper to make a shot at a range that great. And that was Carlos Hathcock, the legendary marine sniper. Why would the US put that much into disparaging such a similar action?

[E6Hotel 0]

Anyone who knew what they were talking about wouldn't.

Semper Fi

[Mister Frag 0]

I haven't heard of any complaints regarding the performance of the Canadian sniper teams that were attached to the US troops.

Also, my understanding was that the Americans wanted to decorate the Canadian teams for their outstanding service, but that the Canadian brass had taken exception to that. So, the Bronze Stars have (or had) been put on hold pending a review by Canadian superiors.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As I recall, there was an incident a few weeks ago where one of the snipers was returned to Canada pending court-martial for an encounter (?) with an American army chaplain.<span id='postcolor'>

Army Chaplain: "Your job must be very difficult on you. What do you feel when you kill people?"

Canadian Sniper:........"recoil"

LOL, j/k

Tyler

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One team made a kill from 2430 meters (2670 yards) using a McMillan TAC-50 <span id='postcolor'>

One team made a kill from 2430 meters (2670 yards) using a McMillan TAC-50 attached to a GBU-24 Paveway III Laser Guided Bomb.

The pilot that dropped the bomb commented: "I have no idea what that TAC-50 was doing on my bomb. I guess it was some form of a joke from the Canadians. I never understand their sense of humor."