Bush unpopular in berlin

[Akira 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ May 24 2002,16:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ May 24 2002,16<!--emo&)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">E- You know nothing about me nor what I do for a living (and yes I work for the government btw) so don't speak of what you know nothing about.<span id='postcolor'>

You have said earlier that you work with taxes. Being a government bureaucrat doesn't IMO count as doing something importrant for your country.

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I don't really care if you put stock in my views or not. It makes them no less valid then your views.

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True, but there is still a difference between talking and putting your money where your mouth is.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your inability to have a discussion without resorting to some kind of name calling or personal insults have destroyed any crediability you had. So, since you have turned this "discussion" into a 4th grade name calling contest I'm out of here.

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My name calling?? Nah, whatever, I am through with you. Not worth the effort.<span id='postcolor'>

Taxes? When did I say I did anything with taxes? I work with legislation....bills and such. And as I said your piddly opinion doesn't matter. Your pathetic little closed mind makes me sad. I may seem closed minded but I admit when I am wrong, or when I feel the US is wrong. Search the posts....its true. And what have YOU done for your country that makes your opinion and views SO much better than others?

I am wasting no more time on your sad little "arguements" and mis-informed opinions. Hope you have a good day and sorry we don't agree on anything, though that doesn't justify personal attacks (and no there was no sarcasm there...I hope you do have a nice day).

[Akira 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ May 24 2002,16:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ May 24 2002,01:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Interesting, cause Americans still kill in the name of God. Where do you think the basis of the death penalty comes from if not from the Christian concept of "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."?<span id='postcolor'>

umm.. death penalty is based upon proportional punishment.  I don't see anything in the bible based upon "eye for an eye".  I know thats in the Koran though.<span id='postcolor'>

I think "eye for an eye" is Old Testament. Not sure though. But it is in the Bible somewhere. All religions have done evil things in their name....ummm...except maybe Buddhists....

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Evangelium, Mathews Chapter 5, 38 f

Damm, I am soooooooo fucking dammm smart!!! Oh damm so smart I am, Incredibly smart!!!

[DarkLight 0]

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Make that unpopular in berlin and belgium...

[Die Alive 0]

Akira, you live in TEXAS, right? Not TAXES, lol

-=Die Alive=-

[Akira 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ May 24 2002,17:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Akira, you live in TEXAS, right? Not TAXES, lol

-=Die Alive=-<span id='postcolor'>

That is correct senor

[Akira 0]

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Damm, I am soooooooo fucking dammm smart!!! Oh damm so smart I am, Incredibly smart!!!  <span id='postcolor'>

You go boy!

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ May 24 2002,16:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And what have YOU done for your country<span id='postcolor'>

How about military service + a 6 month tour in Kosovo.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am wasting no more time on your sad little "arguements" and mis-informed opinions. Hope you have a good day and sorry we don't agree on anything, though that doesn't justify personal attacks. <span id='postcolor'>

Wow, you managed to contradict yourself in two connedted sentences. Impressive. But I hope you have a nice day too!

[Akira 0]

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How about military service + a 6 month tour in Kosovo.

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Wow, you managed to contradict yourself in two connedted sentences. Impressive. But I hope you have a nice day too!<span id='postcolor'>

True I did contridict myself...stupid human nature....

So my opinion means nothing if I don't have MILITARY service? Well then I guess about 90% of the Earths opinions don't matter.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ May 24 2002,16:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Evangelium, Mathews Chapter 5, 38 f

Damm, I am soooooooo fucking dammm smart!!! Oh damm so smart I am, Incredibly smart!!!  <span id='postcolor'>

I hate to do this to you Albert, but the passage says

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40 and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; 41 and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you."

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Which is basically saying that eye for an eye is not a very good policy according to the new testament.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ May 24 2002,17:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So my opinion means nothing if I don't have MILITARY service? Well then I guess about 90% of the Earths opinions don't matter.<span id='postcolor'>

No, I never said that your opinion didn't matter. All I said was that talk is easy. That perhaps trying to have some understanding for what war means before yelling "Bomb Iraq!".

If you personally are ready to go and drop some bombs and kill people, then I will respect your opinions.

War is a nasty radical thing to start. I think that you should be able to motivate why you go to war and you should have an understanding for what it means for the people getting bombed.

[Akira 0]

Does it not say anything about it at all?

[Sadico 1]

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Bush unpopular in berlin

Make that unpopular in berlin and belgium...

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Make that unpopular in berlin, belgium and spain...

[Akira 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ May 24 2002,17:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Akira @ May 24 2002,17:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So my opinion means nothing if I don't have MILITARY service? Well then I guess about 90% of the Earths opinions don't matter.<span id='postcolor'>

No, I never said that your opinion didn't matter. All I said was that talk is easy. That perhaps trying to have some understanding for what war means before yelling "Bomb Iraq!".

If you personally are ready to go and drop some bombs and kill people, then I will respect your opinions.

War is a nasty radical thing to start. I think that you should be able to motivate why you go to war and you should have an understanding for what it means for the people getting bombed.<span id='postcolor'>

Talk is real easy. And I have an inclining what war means and does though I have never personally seen its effects (unless a car bomb on my base counts but I don't think it is nearly the same). And no I didn't say I wanted to go bomb Iraq willy-nilly. I only thought that inspectors were needed since Saddam has shown he is willing to use these horrible weapons.

War sucks big time (massive understatement), espeically for the non-fighting civilians that it effects. If there is some way to do it without effecting thousands of lives I'll go for that route in a heartbeat. I don't want to just go bomb Iraq but I stand by my statement that Saddam should go.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ May 24 2002,17:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ May 24 2002,16:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Evangelium, Mathews Chapter 5, 38 f

Damm, I am soooooooo fucking dammm smart!!! Oh damm so smart I am, Incredibly smart!!!  <span id='postcolor'>

I hate to do this to you Albert, but the passage says

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40 and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; 41 and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you."

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Which is basically saying that eye for an eye is not a very good policy according to the new testament.<span id='postcolor'>

Oy! I was just refering to where this was stated! No liability there! Anyway there are more references in the bible concerning the issue. E.g 3 Book of Moses, Chapter 24, .... and many more (sorry cant state that cause rarely keep a bible around me! The cooking-book of Escoffier is my bible)

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ May 24 2002,17:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oy! I was just refering to where this was stated! No liability there! Anyway there are more references in the bible concerning the issue. E.g 3 Book of Moses, Chapter 24, .... and many more (sorry cant state that cause rarely keep a bible around me! The cooking-book of Escoffier is my bible)<span id='postcolor'>

I found a Bible Search.

Apparently the first time that "eye for an eye" thing was used was in the pre-Bible code of Hammurabi.

@Akira:

Let's leave the discussion at that in a semi-civilized way. There is nothing I can say to convince you, so I'll put my attempts on hold.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

BTW we got a scientology church here in Lausanne. And there are always lots of security cameras and wanna-be gurus around that house. Right around the corner of it you find a big big swiss Bank (so the poor followers dont need to walk far to pay all their money to the church )

[Akira 0]

Yeah we have a church here too. Right across from the campus here with big letters stating "Scientology" for all to see.

You can see people actually walk closer to the road to avoid getting too close. Sometimes there someone outside trying to sucker people in too.

I thought the church was banned in Germany? Or is it that it just doesn't get the benefits of other churchs?

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

I guess it is banned in Germany, but not here in Switzerland! And of course they also need to have a church where they store all their money. I must admit I too move to the other side of the road when I pass by that Scientology house (just like a prison for mentaly disabled criminals). I bet we already got a scientology spy in this forum that will try to get into our heads and modify us and make us mental robots.

THey are here, Akira, dont trust anyone!!!

(and if you see this guy, you better run!!

[Akira 0]

Oops! My bad...thought you were in Germany. Guess I should pay more attention and look at the city

Don't worry! I don't trust anyone anyway!

Comes with the govt. job.....that and the rampant apathy.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ May 24 2002,18:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I guess it is banned in Germany, but not here in Switzerland!<span id='postcolor'>

Switzerland?? Aren't you from Aachen?

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

From now on when someone doesnt agree 100% with my opinion I will proclaim that he is a scientology spy ! Everyone will be so afraid of my accusals that they will all agree! You are all looking forward into a period of insultive accusals, threats and mistrust.... And then I will open my own church, and they will call me Flahspoint-guru and you will all pay 80% of your income to my account so you can take part in my mental-classes

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ May 24 2002,18:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ May 24 2002,18:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I guess it is banned in Germany, but not here in Switzerland!<span id='postcolor'>

Switzerland?? Aren't you from Aachen?<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, but I am pretty much a gypsy! Got my own appartment in Lausanne, my parents still live in Aachen. I finished my studies pretty much so I will soon try to move out of switzerland and find a place in South-East Asia.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ May 24 2002,18:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ May 24 2002,18:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ May 24 2002,18:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I guess it is banned in Germany, but not here in Switzerland!<span id='postcolor'>

Switzerland?? Aren't you from Aachen?<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, but I am pretty much a gypsy!    Got my own appartment in Lausanne, my parents still live in Aachen. I finished my studies pretty much so I will soon try to move out of switzerland and find a place in South-East Asia.<span id='postcolor'>

You are very devoted to your church I see. Going around the world from one scientology church to another without having a permanent base, must be hard for you

[Warin 0]

Akira,

This is not intended as a personal attack..but cant you read??? The American timber industry is and has always been healthy and profitable. No americans are losing jobs. Sheesh.

Now..onto happy things.

We can ALL finally agree on something. Scientology is EVIL!