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No bullshit, they've got lots of sci-fi-ish stuff in development.

Don't think of it as the holywood style, it is mearly a means of giving an armour plate a very high charge capable of deflecting or reducing the speed of incoming missiles sufficient enough that HEAT warheads are made ineffective.

Other stuff they have in development are things such 'the scorpion high-speed combat uniform'. A large proportion of this unifrom is constructed of a ultra-tough bullet-proof woven with integral 'wires' and antennae connected to nano solar-conducting cells and flexible storage devices also integral to the unifrom. One of the most incredible things about this fabric is that is also contains light-emitting nano-particles capable of chaing colour to roughly match the environment. If you think the technology couldn't get anymore sophisticated in just one suit it also has the ability to monitor heart rate, blood-pressure, core and skin temperatures which are relayed to medics elsewhere who are able to remotely administer coagulants and drugs such as antibacterial agents through devices built into the suit. It is also capable of automatically tightening sections of the suit around a limb acting as a tourniquet if ultra-small sensors detect bleeding. Ontop of that the fabrics are coated in nano-particles like those in today's sun screens that will detoxify some chemical agents that a soldier might encounter. The helmet also has some incredible technological capabilities using superior versions of todays 'Land Warriors'. Laser projection provided by more nano-particles built into the face mask provide a monocular computer display, day/night target sensors and chemical/biological breathing aparatus. They are supposed to be in service by 2010. But what happens whan a suit malfunctions is anyones guess.

...unbelievable but true...hey it's amazing what goes on behind closed doors.

Jubs

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I heard that the US send their "super-soldier" (w/ OICW and stuff) against "normal" soldiers and the new untis got their ass kicked a lot...

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The Jub-Jub Bird @ May 19 2002,00:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...hows that for changing the subject!<span id='postcolor'>

I also saw a thing on The Learning Channel were we (the US) are developing a magnetic cannon to put on tanks. It shoots a solid magnetic object so fast that it obliterates whatever it touches. Not likely to be any time soon as this thing was the size of a house wink.gif

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"super troops" bah, i heard from somone in the SASR, that there is an elite paintball team in the US that does training with us forces, usualy they get a 10:1 ratio.

i also heaard that an australian cammando unit got a 1:1 with them, and thats our commando units not sasr

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Indychuck @ May 19 2002,03:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The Jub-Jub Bird @ May 19 2002,00:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...hows that for changing the subject!<span id='postcolor'>

I also saw a thing on The Learning Channel were we (the US) are developing a magnetic cannon to put on tanks. It shoots a solid magnetic object so fast that it obliterates whatever it touches. Not likely to be any time soon as this thing was the size of a house  wink.gif<span id='postcolor'>

Its called a railgun, been around for years, Basically an open ended acceletron. The problem is putting the power source required inside of a mobile platform.

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they had a show on discovery on the railgun and several other weapons, the most interesting is the non leathle lasers, instead of blowing the target up the would for example lets say theres a aa missle battery on top of a civilian building, it needs to get knocked out, so what they do is they send a chinook in and a a safe distance fire this laser that still on the drawing boards, rather than the laser blowing up the missle battery it would accually push the battery off the roof, there for preventing any possible civilian causalities, pretty neat eh? this would also be used for to render a scud launcher useless, they would go out and fire the laser at the fueling section of the missle before fueling has comensed. it takes a full hour to prepare a scud for launching. if they get it knocked out in time before they finish the priming, the problem is solved.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ May 19 2002,06:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">they had a show on discovery on the railgun and several other weapons, the most interesting is the non leathle lasers, instead of blowing the target up the would for example lets say theres a aa missle battery on top of a civilian building, it needs to get knocked out, so what they do is they send a chinook in and a a safe distance fire this laser that still on the drawing boards, rather than the laser blowing up the missle battery it would accually push the battery off the roof, there for preventing any possible civilian causalities, pretty neat eh? this would also be used for to render a scud launcher useless, they would go out and fire the laser at the fueling section of the missle before fueling has comensed. it takes a full hour to prepare a scud for launching. if they get it knocked out in time before they finish the priming, the problem is solved.<span id='postcolor'>

Uh so when it gets pushed off the roof it just magically dissapears smile.gif

Just like warfare analysts to not think of the consequences of GRAVITY, sure you didn't blow up the building but its got to land somewhere and that would typically be a street in a modern city.

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Anyway any modern MBT can be destroyed by one hit from any other modern MBT! End of story!

It all depends on how good the crew is!

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uh theb what would be the point of ultra modern armour then?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles @ May 19 2002,14:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">uh theb what would be the point of ultra modern armour then?<span id='postcolor'>

Jobs.

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Penetration depends on the range or example.If you get hit over 1500m for example and you got a good armour  you might be lucky. It also depends in which angle you are hit, where (rear,front...) and at last by what you are hit. You cant say that 1hit = 1kill. But I agrere that the tank battles in OpF are kinda unrealistic with an abrams taking 3hits by an T80 and being alive...

EDIT: Sure tank fighting depends on the crew but some tanks have due to suberb targeting systems advantages.Take the Leo 2 for example you just have to put you sight directly on the enemy, even if you drive and he is moving the trageting system then computes everything (movement,air pressure/temperature,shell and barrel temperatur...) for hiting the target...its quite awesome...

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Indychuck @ May 19 2002,03:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The Jub-Jub Bird @ May 19 2002,00:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...hows that for changing the subject!<span id='postcolor'>

I also saw a thing on The Learning Channel were we (the US) are developing a magnetic cannon to put on tanks. It shoots a solid magnetic object so fast that it obliterates whatever it touches. Not likely to be any time soon as this thing was the size of a house  wink.gif<span id='postcolor'>

The rail gun. There was development of a rail gun in the USSR too during the cold war. One witness I remember dscrided the effect on a MBT (T-64 or T72 I think) from one hit by this railgun as what you would expect the result to be if you shot a tin can with a 12 guage shot gun...the only problem with this gun was that the powersource was an entire powerstation...slightly unportable...

Jubs

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ May 19 2002,06:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">they had a show on discovery on the railgun and several other weapons, the most interesting is the non leathle lasers, instead of blowing the target up the would for example lets say theres a aa missle battery on top of a civilian building, it needs to get knocked out, so what they do is they send a chinook in and a a safe distance fire this laser that still on the drawing boards, rather than the laser blowing up the missle battery it would accually push the battery off the roof, there for preventing any possible civilian causalities, pretty neat eh? this would also be used for to render a scud launcher useless, they would go out and fire the laser at the fueling section of the missle before fueling has comensed. it takes a full hour to prepare a scud for launching. if they get it knocked out in time before they finish the priming, the problem is solved.<span id='postcolor'>

I've seen stuff on more lethal uses of lazers. I remember watching some footage of some US military tests of laser guns. They were shooting down unmanned reconaissance planes in a test. The laser would focus precisely on the wing of the plane and 'lock-on' you could see the area on the plane get warmer and warmer before errupting in flames and crashing to the ground.

Jubs

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US has developed special plaster which contains some medicines and microprocessor to soldiers.

Microprocessor analyzes what soldier needs and them plaster gives that stuff to soldier.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ May 19 2002,13:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles @ May 19 2002,14:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">uh theb what would be the point of ultra modern armour then?<span id='postcolor'>

Jobs.<span id='postcolor'>

not just jobs but because its a pretty slim chance that you will see a brittish tank and a american tank fighting one another to the death, the real reason for the advanced armor is to protect against enemies with RPG's much like the taliban and the iraqi MBTs, and if you ask me i'd rather have a lot of armor than no armor. i swear why some people seem to put so much effort in trying to make ones own countries MBT's look so much suppior than other counties MBT's by posting on a video game forum and even w/out the slightest bit of proof let alone not even being in the military is something i can never seem to understand, just like the other guy said, each tank is build for special purposes, and all have their weaknesses.

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