dayglow 2 Posted May 15, 2002 Buddy how is a ASM helicopter balance for a scout? Last time I check when I'm playing the Russian side I haven't been harrassed by USA subs. As for the other helicopters the Mi-24 does dual duty. I don't know about you but that thing is deadly to tanks and infantry + it carries a squad. Where's the balance on the NATO side? Oh here's an image from one of your links: Not all varients have a gun. The BRDM was brought in as balance to the HUMVEE. Since you are so big on this, why doesn't the HUMVEE have a mounted MG? or TOW? or Stingers? or the 40mm gernade launcher? COLINMAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifer 0 Posted May 15, 2002 And for what you need Kiowa,chinook, apach ?? BRDM balanced Hammer   ? 15mm armored venicle - 90 bullet 10mm armored hammer - 270 bullet !!!!!!!! KA-25 - Recon chopper KA-27 - Antisubmarine Russian BRDM-2 With Machinguns Other (CHEZH, East Europe, Arab ) without machingun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpaceAlex 0 Posted May 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Seifer @ May 15 2002,04:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And for what you need Kiowa,chinook, apach ??<span id='postcolor'> We requested them. They were not avaible before. Stop posting crap please and go back to your mother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 15, 2002 let me try to explain in 1.30 they introduced laser guided bombs what does the kiowa do? it has a lovely little thing called laser designator. it allows you to paint targets so an A-10 LGB can drop LGBs on them, do you see any LGBs on the russian side? the chinook carries a lot of troops, something lacking by the AH-1 and AH-64 the MI-24 is multi role, it carries troops and has a fierce range of weaponary just like the AH-1 and AH-64. the CH-47 makes up for that by being able to carry 2 squads. the AH-64 is flown by the army. last time i checked OFP was about the army. the AH-1 is fragile compared to the MI-24, something i feel is balanced out by the AH-64 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USSoldier11B 0 Posted May 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KA-27 - Antisubmarine <span id='postcolor'> ...would be pointless since there are currently no subs in OFP. Doubt that we will ever see one as an add-on because what you can do in the water in OFP is so limited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayglow 2 Posted May 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Seifer @ May 14 2002,20:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And for what you need Kiowa,chinook, apach ?? BRDM balanced Hammer   ? 15mm armored venicle - 90 bullet 10mm armored hammer - 270 bullet !!!!!!!! KA-25 - Recon chopper KA-27 - Antisubmarine Russian BRDM-2 With Machinguns Other (CHEZH, East Europe, Arab ) without machingun<span id='postcolor'> uhmm from your link: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Ka-25 Hormone helicopter was developed to meet a Soviet Naval Air Force specification for an anti-submarine helicopter for ship or shore-based use<span id='postcolor'> ooopps COLINMAN ps the difference in armour rating may have to do with the poor tolerances in Russian vehicle manufacturing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifer 0 Posted May 15, 2002 i say KA-25, no Ka-27... KA-27 - antisubmarine modification of KA-25 !!! We need KA-25,not KA-27 for recon.. Russians have Guidet bombs for SU-25 !!!! Why BIS no addet it in game ? ''the chinook carries a lot of troops''' For what you UH-60, and we want carries a lot of troops in MI-26 KA-25 - http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-25.htm KA-27 and other modifications of KA-25 http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-29.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 15, 2002 i have no idea what you just said please explain how a MI-24 carrying 8 (or is it 6?) troops is balanced with the AH-1 and AH-64 that can carry none? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifer 0 Posted May 15, 2002 Chinook carried 22, balanced ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 15, 2002 MI-24 carries 8 or 6, balanced ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayglow 2 Posted May 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Seifer @ May 14 2002,20:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i say KA-25, no Ka-27... KA-27 - antisubmarine modification of KA-25 !!! We need KA-25,not KA-27 for recon..<span id='postcolor'> Read your own damn link! I quoted it above and there is no mention of recon anywhere. The KA-25 was developed for the NAVY for ASW! And is the Mi-26 actually used in combat operations? The Mi-8 is the larger transport in the game and it carries even more rockets! I'm all for the addition of more vehicles but your arguements and posts contradict your aguements and it makes no sense. COLINMAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifer 0 Posted May 15, 2002 MI-26 used in Afganistan for desant...over 80 troops You have 2 combat chopper - we have 1 , but it very slow in combat ... Why not add in game MI-28 ?? About SU-25 guided bomb X-25ML X-25L S-25L """The Mi-8 is the larger transport in the game""" Chinook - not large ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 15, 2002 your combat chopper can carry troops why not add MI-28 because a: it doesn't fit in with the resistance timeline b: again, please explain why MI-24 carrying troops but AH-1 and AH-64 is balanced, but a heavy transport with a weak doorgun is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayglow 2 Posted May 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Seifer @ May 14 2002,21:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You have 2 combat chopper - we have 1 , but it very slow in combat ... Why not add in game MI-28 ?? <span id='postcolor'> Alright, good idea. Best you get on it. Can't wait to see your skinned 3D model with a working cockpit for both the gunner and the pilot. Man this is going to be good. Mi-8 is the larger Russian transport in the game. Again is the Mi-26 used in combat operations where it will come under fire and have to manouver? COLINMAN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filin 0 Posted May 15, 2002 that's absurd!!! Mi28 can't carry troops either and how often do you carry troops in Helicopter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 15, 2002 well whichever one carried the large amount of troops you carry troops in choppers all the time, that's how you transport them around quickly through enemy and friendly territory. you don't send special ops behind enemy lines in a 5t truck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifer 0 Posted May 15, 2002 TimeLine ?? G36 not in timeline Abrams M1A1 not in timeline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freezuch 0 Posted May 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Seifer @ May 15 2002,05:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">TimeLine ?? Â G36 not in timeline Abrams M1A1 not in timeline<span id='postcolor'> Yeah, give us some ol' good T62. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 15, 2002 M1A1 balance T-80 vs M-60 not very balance is it? G36 not in official campaign. you find official campaign with G36? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freezuch 0 Posted May 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LordZach @ May 15 2002,05:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">M1A1 balance T-80 vs M-60 not very balance is it? G36 not in official campaign. Â you find official campaign with G36?<span id='postcolor'> You know, it's too bad for americans that they didn't have an equal counterpart to Russian T80. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifer 0 Posted May 15, 2002 BMP-3 and MI-28 not for official campaign too !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 15, 2002 make up your mind about what you want we're talking about RESISTANCE here. resistance is an official campaign/expansion pack by BIS. i'm going to take a longshot here, but i think they're kind of busy working on things for resistance. if you really want the BMP-3 and MI-28 so bad that you can't possibly live without them, why don't you apply for oxygen and make them because i'd much rather BIS focus on addons relative to resistance. and a suggestion for the future, don't complain about wanting more balance when suggesting things to unbalance the game. it just doesn't fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifer 0 Posted May 15, 2002 Page 2,3,4.... We talk about game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted May 15, 2002 page 1, we talk about resistance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifer 0 Posted May 15, 2002 NATO 7 air vs. Russiar 3 air ......balance ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites