Rp-mods Presents: Chernarus Life: Revolution

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Credits are as follows:

Issetea (Original Creator)

Fewo (Original Creator)

Pogoman (Scripting)

Sparcdr (Scripting)

TheHitman (Server)

Edited September 17, 2010 by TheHitman

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[callihn 10]

I'm pretty sure that Issetea has not authorized any CL:R usage of his code:

CL:R is an illegal modified version of Sahrani Life (SL), so every modified CL:R is illegal as well. The CL Code is not available.

I still have that email from him when I requested permission to use the already leaked code, that was Thu, 24 Jun 2010 07:20:43 +0200.

Just so you know.

EDIT: Well, checking rp-mods he does have TheHitman and Sparcdr listed as developers, now the question is has Pogoman given his permission to use the code he added since supposedly this was stolen by him and he is a thief, that's allot to swallow that just a few months ago he was so bitter he attacks a new commer to the community asking permission to use the supposedly leaked/stolen code, practically calling them a thief too and now he is all fine with it and the long time thief is fine with giving his permission too. Maybe some people just have no integrity.

Edited September 16, 2010 by callihn

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No stealing involved here, We have the full support of Issetea..

PogoMan Has not worked on the mission for a year, So why would he care?

[callihn 10]

No stealing involved here, We have the full support of Issetea..

PogoMan Has not worked on the mission for a year, So why would he care?

Yea, yea, we get that, try going back and readind the part after EDIT:...

Perhaps because your using his code to, supposedly the rule is that you must have the authors permission to use their code/resources and since he has edited on this so called stolen mission and your including his codes/edits then it requires his permission as well which I take from that answer you do not have.

Just saying, that is the rule around here, is it not?

Edited September 17, 2010 by callihn

[pogoman979 10]

for what its worth i dont care.

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Message from Issetea:

« Sent to: TheHitman on: Today at 09:43:06 am »

Pogoman didn't ask for permission and I never knew him until i saw the edited mission running on a server. Since that kinda makes it an illegal edit I still regard it as an rp-mods mission and don't care if you continue to edit it for rp-mods.

[callihn 10]

for what its worth i dont care.

Wonderful, so now we see that this was all just a publicity sceme.

Message from Issetea:

« Sent to: TheHitman on: Today at 09:43:06 am »

Pogoman didn't ask for permission and I never knew him until i saw the edited mission running on a server. Since that kinda makes it an illegal edit I still regard it as an rp-mods mission and don't care if you continue to edit it for rp-mods.

Mentioned above, it was never stolen to begin with, because IMHO nobody would give someone premission to use their code after being called a thief, even if they were.

It was my understanding that the rule is that you have to have prior permission before using some else's work, not after and to my knowledge Pogoman never made a thread in these forums or any other with this rule in effect regarding his edit of that mission so what permission he had or didn't have is completely irrelevent per this conversation, take him to court and sue him.

§20) Posting addon/mod other content without permission

For many years this community has been known as the premium addon/mod creating community, people work tirelessly and in great detail to create fantastic addons/mods/missions/campaigns to release for free so that everyone benefits, including Bohemia Interactive. There are a few simple rules in place to provide the respect to these creative people/groups that they deserve:

The first and most fundamental rule is that you must seek permission to alter someone's work, to mirror it or use it in any way other than for personal use. No permission, no editing, no mirroring, no adding to your mod pack, no editing and sharing around your private squad, none of that is acceptable.

Obviously we cannot unfortunately control what people do outside of these forums, however on these forums you must follow this rule, if a person/team post a thread to share an addon/mod using content from someone else without permission and we receive a complaint then the mod thread will be closed until the issue is resolved and the forum member(s) risks being permanently banned from these forums for taking someone's work without permission.

This isn't just limited to re-using content in addons/mods/missions however, it's not acceptable to edit someone's work without permission and then to post screenshots of it on the forums (even if the edited addon/mod is purely for personal use), it's also not acceptable to edit someone's work, or use someone's work in any way that you don't have permission for and then to create videos which you post on these forums, doing any of the above without the permission of the original creators risks a permanent ban, for individuals, for whole mod teams or squads.

So, it appears that Pogoman and others do not have the same rights as Issetea, while Issetea is the original creator of the mission and the majority of the missions code, Pogoman is the original creator of the code he added to it and it was Issetea's decision to use the additional code in his release without obtaining permission, two wrongs do not make a right and Issetea has done nothing more than steal Pogoman's code just as Pogoman supposedly stole his and the fact that now you have permission really does not change the fact that you did not have it when you used it or when you made this post.

That being said I'll leave it there since as noted this was merely a sick publicity sceme and this conversation is only helping it along by keeping it in the light and I've already made my point that this content and this post occured without the required permission of at least one author and I wonder if you used other authors works as well since I've never seen Pogoman alone in the credits, all I've seen had Razza and a few others too. But again, I'm no longer going to discuss this, if nobody else cares about this rule I certainly don't.

Perhaps someone from BIS or one of the mods can now clarify exactly who this rule and the protections it offers is for since it's apparently selective.

EDIT: BTW, my CL:R edit is much better, but it requires addons. ;)

Edited September 26, 2010 by callihn

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A good enough reason for Aussie servers to have there own version going with all credit going to those who credit :p

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