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I just wanted to know who on the forum is a soldier, marine, or anybody involved in the military. Just wanted to know who I can call "Sir", for once.

Well, for starters i think "Tex[uSMC]" is a marine in the US Marine Corps, and good luck to you, you'll need it.

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Actually, if I am not mistaken Tex plans on being a marine, but isnt one yet..

[uSMC] is his cla...er.. squad.

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lol. Just imagine calling someone "Sir" every 5 seconds for your whole life. ooooohhh....gives me the shivers, because one of my famliy members call me "Mr.President", I don't know why but it just came up on this great film starring Harrison Ford called "Air Force One". I just like to be in control all the time.

Yes sir, i can boogie.

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In the reserves now so im not active. If you are civilian then you don't call military personel "Sir". If anything you might be adressed that way by military personnel.

What rank are you scout?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Scorpio @ April 29 2002,21:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">great film starring Harrison Ford called "Air Force One"<span id='postcolor'>

Short overview of that movie that covers it pretty much:

Harrison: "Do you know who I am? I am the President of the United States!"

Bad Guy: "Oh my god, he is the President of the United States!"

Reporter: "It's a bird, no it's a plane, no it's the President of the United States!"

Harrison: "Yes, I am the President of the United States."

Bad Guy: "Ha! We have the President of the United States."

Harrison: "The President of the United States will not tolerate this since I am the President of the United States and you are not the President of the United States. Did I mention that I am the President of the United States?"

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There have been a bunch of these threads before, if you want my answer, look at my avatar. smile.gif

BTW, don't call me 'sir', I'm just a lowly private, for now biggrin.gif

Tyler

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I think that we should have a clear pecking order here biggrin.gif

..so everybody here should state their current rank.

I'm a second lieutenant and still an NCO, what are you punk? biggrin.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm a second lieutenant and still an NCO<span id='postcolor'>

How does that work?

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im an Lt.,  Recon platoon leader. in the reserves.

so i guess im senior here, ATTEN..TION! hehehe, LOL! biggrin.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ April 29 2002,21:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm a second lieutenant and still an NCO<span id='postcolor'>

How does that work?<span id='postcolor'>

The highest NCO rank in Sweden is värnpliktig fänrik, which means 'enlisted second lieutenant'. The normal second lieutenant is called 'fänrik' but both ranks are equal in terms of authority. The difference is that I can't be promoted any more (at least not peace time), so for the NCO's it is the final rank, while for an officer it is the first after finishing the academy. We discussed this in a thread before. It is something like your WO's. One major difference is that we have no professional enlisted men. All the people that are employed by the Swedish military are officers. The enlisted men are all conscripts.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scout @ April 29 2002,22wow.gif)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">im an Lt.,  Recon platoon leader. in the reserves.

so i guess im senior here, ATTEN..TION! hehehe, LOL! <!--emo&biggrin.gif<span id='postcolor'>

He's a fu**ing  officer! Don't forget: The only thing that we hate more then the enemy are our officers! Let's whack him guys! biggrin.gif

A 1:st lieutenant and a platoon leader - hell I was a platoon leader when I was a mere sergeant. What's up scout, those promotions are not rolling your way tounge.gifbiggrin.gif

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IM a lance corporal in the army cadet force which I have to do as part of my public services course at college but I will be joining the army in a few years time.

If I join now at 17 I wont have the chance to get qualifications for when I leave so I would end up with a shitty job mad.gif

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i was a platoon commander when i was 2 Lt. and then, when i got Lt. i became recon instructor.

got me self a nice jeep, and a chick NCO. biggrin.gif

any way, in the reserve, u can become a company CO and be an Lt. (Just like in the regulars) or u can be a Major and hold the same position as i do.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scout @ April 29 2002,22:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">got me self a nice jeep, and a chick NCO. biggrin.gif<span id='postcolor'>

The jeep one can live without but the chick NCO is hard to top biggrin.gif

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I'm Warrant Officer (WO1) in Czech Air Forces. (that's translation of Czech rank podpraporcik)

We have same ranks in Army and in Air Forces.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One major difference is that we have no professional enlisted men. All the people that are employed by the Swedish military are officers. The enlisted men are all conscripts.<span id='postcolor'>

That's wierd. So someone couldn't volunteer for the regular force? They would have to be conscripted?

I've never been a fan of conscript armies, is your service mandatory in Sweden? or do they pick people at random for service?

Our rank structure in Canada goes like

this.

Follow the one on the right. This is Airforce structure, but the Air Force and Army follow the same system. The Navy has the same thing but they have different names for their ranks.

The only difference between Army and Air Force slip-ons on the right is that Army slip-ons are green and not blue.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Recon platoon leader<span id='postcolor'>

It's 'Recce' not 'Recon' damnit! Say it right! biggrin.gif

Tyler

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ April 29 2002,22:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One major difference is that we have no professional enlisted men. All the people that are employed by the Swedish military are officers. The enlisted men are all conscripts.<span id='postcolor'>

That's wierd. So someone couldn't volunteer for the regular force?

Tyler<span id='postcolor'>

Nope, if you want to join professionally you have to go to the military academy and become an officer. International task forces are an exception, but they are time limited.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've never been a fan of conscript armies, is your service mandatory in Sweden? or do they pick people at random for service?<span id='postcolor'>

It is mandatory, but they pick about 30% today based on different tests you have to make. If you are picked you have the choice of doing civil service (firemen, work at hospitals, etc). There is nothing you can do about it. If you get drafted you have to serve.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Recon platoon leader<span id='postcolor'>

It's 'Recce' not 'Recon' damnit! Say it right!  biggrin.gif

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I guess in Canada you get to be a Raccoon platoon leader tounge.gif

Here are the Swedish Ranks:

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Here is a translation to US ranks:

General -- General  

Generallöjtnant -- Lieutenant General

Generalmajor -- Major General

Brigadgeneral -- Brigadier General

Överste -- Colonel

Överstelöjtnant -- Lieutenant Colonel

Major -- Major

Kapten -- Captain

Löjtnant -- First Lieutenant  

Fänrik -- Second Lieutenant

Sergeant -- Master sergeant

Kadett  -- Cadet

Furir -- Sergeant

Korpral -- Corporal

Menig -- Private

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Scorpio @ April 29 2002,20:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just wanted to know who on the forum is a soldier, marine, or anybody involved in the military. Just wanted to know who I can call "Sir", for once.

Well, for starters i think "Tex[uSMC]" is a marine in the US Marine Corps, and good luck to you, you'll need it.<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, Im not a marine. USMC-Warriors is our squad/unit/clan/whatever, Our Site. Im not prior service, but Im about one of 4 guys that arent prior service in the group. As it isnt 'my' squad, I dont get to pick the name, so sometimes I feel like a lame ass wannabe running around with this tag on my name tounge.gif

but, since Im proud of what we do in our squad (kick ass, take names, etc.) I put up with people asking me about it. So there ya go. Also, I cant say I am particularly interested in being a Marine, but the option is there.

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My dad was in the army, about 14 to 20 some years ago, he inlisted in 1979(just to lazy to calculate).He drove the M1 out in Fort Hood Texas.He was testing them when they got the M1.Then he was transfered to the 2nd AD(Armored divsion), cause they decided that the 2nd AD should use them first(If i remeber what my dad told me).He was in it for 4 years.Then just became a normal soldier after that for anthor 10 years.Ill see if i can get more info from him. smile.gif

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Wow, rank works alot different in other countries. I'm a specialist in the National Guard. National Guard differs from the Reserves in Constitutional terms. It is officially state militias that are supplied by the active Army but run by a state AG. Officers, Warrant Officers, and enlisted are all seperate. This is how U.S. Army rank works.

Enlisted

E-1: Private (recruit)

E-2: Private (second class)

E-3: Private Foirst Class

E-4: Specialist

NCO

     Corporal (junior NCO, it's a lateral promotion)

E-5: Sergeant

E-6: Staff Sergeant

E-7: Sergeant First Class

E-8: Master Sergeant

      First Sergeant (lateral promotion)

E-9: Sergeant Major

      Command Sergeant Major (lateral promotion)

      Sergeant Major of the Army (unique rank)

Warrant officers must attend a special school. They are masters of a technical skill and are usually drawn from enlisted ranks. Warrant officers are restricted to certain career fields. (i.e. SF, Aviation)

Warrant Officers

WO-1: Warrant Officer

CWO-2: Chief Warrant Officer

CWO-3: Chief Warrant Officer

CWO-4: Chief Warrant Officer

CWO-5: Chief Warrant Officer (unique rank)

Officers are commissioned by the President through the USMA, OCS, or ROTC, and must have at least a bachelor's degree.

Officers

0-1: 2nd Lieutentant

0-2: 1st Lieutenant

0-3: Captain

0-4: Major

0-5: Lieutenant Colonol

0-6: Colonol

0-7: Brigadier General

0-8: Major General

0-9: Lieutenant General

0-10: General

5 star (General of the Army) Same pay grade but rank in unique to one person. Only appointed during a time of official war. Hasn't been one since WWII.

[Edit] In the U.S> Army only commisioned officers are referred to as "sir". NCO's are refered to as "corporal" or sergeant" up to 1SG who is referred as "First Sergeant", the same with "Segreant Major". Warrants are referred to as "Chief" or "Mr. -----"

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"Don't call me sir, I work for a living!"  Heh.

Staff Sergeant, USMC

USSoldier11B:  I know that the Sergeant Major of the Army is a unique rank, but surely there's more than one CWO5 in the Army?  

Semper Fi

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