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What exactly you want to know about average russian Oleg? Wrong, i watch all media, Russian media, "Kremlin" media, Ukrainian media, USA, EU media, and have an objective point of view, unlike you. Notice I didn't call all Ukrainians nationalists. You're right, USSR liberated the Europe from Hitler. What Russian aggression? Wake up people, this Ukrainian troops began to bombard the city with civilians. And the reason why people in Eastern Ukraine did not want to live in the new Ukraine written above. Will not show, already showed in february-may. and everything is understood.

You seriously believe that people in the building themselves burned? "Themselves burned, killed himself"... Normally you washed...

infamous events this is event when people burned alive in Trade Unions House by Ukrainian nationalists, and those who jumped out of the windows was finished off with clubs, and other less known actions on the right sector. your humor is inappropriate. little will refresh your memory: after all of this and appeared pro-russians separatists. do you think now Ukraine govern honest decent people?

US is the most important and the most powerful member of NATO, NATO without the US it's nothing After the Coup d'état in Ukraine after the government seized "Nazis" and after a persecution of the Russian-speaking population, and after the infamous February-may events people in the South-East of Ukraine realized that they not have a common future with the new Ukraine. People held a referendum, where the vast majority (95% Crimea, Donetsk 91%, Lugansk 95%) voted for secession from Ukraine into Russia, it's a legitimate civilized way? Well, after that, Ukraine has started to kill its citizens in the East of Ukraine, though prior to this they had clashes with the right sector.

Can continue the list? About 300 pages ago I calculated, 20-21 centuries NATO had twice as military interventions than Russia

it's bad that the point of view which is different from the blue (West) call "pure and exagerated propaganda"... Maybe you know another major "red" (East) media which gave their point of view? CNN-BBC-Al Jazeera and other major media not far away from Fox news, they all present exclusively "Western policy".

Sometimes it is useful to know the opposite point of view, at least for common mental development

meanwhile pro-Russian rebels launch offensive in south-eastern Ukraine Over 60 Ukrainian troops cross into Russia seeking refuge

Stopfake it's Ukraine site if u dont know, i wrote this about ~100 pages ago.

no, idea is to blame separatists and Russia, and to crush separatists, and maybe that was the pretext for war. i can creat same picture in 15 min, and here's this is about phone talks this proves nothing. Maybe it you crazy fanatic? a normal healthy person would not do such hasty conclusions :) Why Ukrainian traffic manager sent a plane to north of the normal route, in the combat zone? The western world (usa) tries to create a evil of russia because they want the ukraine to drift to the western world so that they privatize all their oil/gas industr. The news told me a lot of bullshit before... like WMD's in Iraq and how 3 wtc towers collapsed when two planes hit them and probaly an other one crashing in to the pentagon but there never was any good footage of that allthough there are plenty camera's around there... And who needs big war it is easy to guess, because the war for the US is business, so they lit Ukraine and created another problem region in the world 18.07.14 , good work militia.

you too. take the information in only one side of the conflict is of course very objectively looked muddy photography and video, made by "maidan studio", and made conclusions turn on u brain and think who and what does it do ---------- Post added at 12:35 ---------- Previous post was at 12:28 ---------- official russian theory aircraft shoot down by ukrainian or separatist, of course try to find proof that ukraine ---------- Post added at 12:41 ---------- Previous post was at 12:35 ---------- Churkin all rightly said about Ukraine. But what kind of nonsense said the emissary of the USA it's creepy.

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the same can be said about militias, Russian fighters not fly over the territory of Ukraine. there are 2 options, Ukrainian provocation or militias error.

u right soon find out who is to blame, if soon Ukraine will help military equipment it all becomes clear.

for reference: BUK-M1 does not work without radar and aircraft conducted air traffic controller from Dnepropetrovsk (Ukraine)

Why separatists shoot down a plane? What is their logic? But for Ukraine good reason to ask military aid from the U.S., it's obvious

Right, in 20th century US have ~50 military operations, Russia ~26.

Some "evil propagandistic kremlin" video: Triumph Ukrainian Democracy

Video after airstrike

*facepalm* Where you take this information? Polish yellow press??)) typical western propaganda, which grew more than one generation. when measured against the Poles in Russia and it is not surprising that they are interested in weakening Russia. USA without embarrassment declared about spent $5 billion on Ukraine anti-government riots You probably naively believe that this grandmother from home pies carried out and fed the multitudes on the Maidan during 3 months? Again Polish yellow press? In main Russian media no similar articles. And the fact that Poland strive as much as possible shit in Russia this is so clear. First Zhirinovskii not a liberal-socialist he liberal-democrat. Secondly he is a clown with a loud speeches, in Russia it is no one to take seriously. Third, if you do not know that Stalin went backward agrarian country, from which Stalin made an industrial superpower. Putin also went to a country which was in anarchy and decay and brought her out of that state. And if Stalin was a serial killer who ate people then why not go further into Western Europe and not fully captured her? Enough to post lie. pro-Russians not quite right, right anti-nazi force. You do understand why in the South-East of Ukraine appeared militias? Explain: no militias was not until the moment (~February 23) in Kiev is not seized power nationalists, and on the first day began a crackdown on the Russian-speaking population prevailing in the South-East. In consequence decided to hold a referendum can this video from Chechnya? You know who is Bandera? at the end of the video of the event on may 2 also shows

Сan give link above on recorded stream? (and sry for my english, i use "simple english + google translate)

:icon_eek: Let's digress from the Polish Russian relations .. A bit of humor from my