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oops:o Sorry if i have shake your game. If you tell me where i can make a donation to BI...i will be enjoy to help them. Poor Bohemia staff..in that place so could...whitout food! In my job, my clients do not care how much i spend ... they want the product for which they have paid. If you dont understand what i have written i can spelling! PS Just in case..I am not angry.....I was enjoying reading some nonsense!:ok:

If i have understand you get real experience as shooter...right? And when you are whit your weapon in prone position you get that swing...right? Now there are just 2 explanations: A)You get a heavy weapons as sniper beast rifle ,something like that **http://www.vincelewis.net/20mm.html**...but you are using it whitout bipods, plus you get a scope magnificient x16. B)You are just trolling. Even if is possible to continue to play whit this effect, and shot always your target,with some reasoning inconceivable to reality ,that dosent mind that it's the right way for simulate that thing. Now go on whit that song about......It's more realistic. More hard dosent mind..more realistic! Let's me see a video, in real life, where you can see that swing, whit a assault rifle scope x4 in prone position in a polygon!.....no way! Increase the recoil weapon. (Because now it's very low....too low.) Decrease the swing weapon when you are close to 0% fatigue. (In relation and encouraged about your posture) Give more importance when you hold your breath. (Could be acceptable keep stabilize your aim from 0.5-3 sec in steps 0.5-1.0-1.5-2.0-2.5-3.0...always in relation your fatigue and your scope magnification .) That's all!,,,It's very easy to make it....more immersive and whitout give up to the fatigue effect and..more credible. ....that will be perfect! They cant introduce a new system, fruit of their imagination,and pass it off as obvious and natural. Ok ArmA III it's will be even to 2035 year..but the rules of physics and gravity do not change.

1)Exactly!For you and your friends dosent matter the "futuristic" setting or you dont care,for me it's different because the immersion,or the feeling, about what i see it's completely far from a reality simulation,and i cant say.....i love it so much....but on the contrary! And even for me they have done a big mistake whit it. 2) Dont think about that BI Company it's so poor and whitout enough staff,and even if it did, after thirteen years of work, they should invest in the future of the company and not on the customer's patience. Sorry but it's not a valid justifications! 3) Again... Dont think about that BI Company it's so poor and whitout enough staff,and even if it did, after thirteen years of work, they should invest in the future of the company and not on the customer's patience. Sorry but it's not a valid justifications! Opinions...any are right or wrong, it just depends on how you see the title ... or what did you expect from it.

Hi. I have not more reason to be in a hurry......not anymore! And i have cut the BI umbilical cord for some time! The my was just a answer to his request to understand. That's all. PS. It's your game and your time...i will wait the right moment to express myself about this Edition. Regards

If you wont i can explain for you. If you develop a title in sandbox as ArmA III, where you MUST customer the title whit Mods, for found the best compromise to complete what still miss,and may be never you will see it in default game,it's logical that if you break this way whit a official patch, they obliges all developers of these mods,to work again on it to restore the proper execution of the game. May be you dont care about it because you dont use it,but think about that server where enable that mods and may be you will begin understand why this stupid gun mods........etc..etc! Even BI are warning about it in that endless and boring sitreps..dosent mind that they have done to a pleasure to those players. If for you the only problem about this patch it's that complain....may be you dont follow all thread about the new swing effect or drunk effect!:803:

I agree,but there was another way for develop that effect: Increase the recoil weapon. (Because now it's very low....too low.) Decrease the swing weapon when you are close to 0% fatigue. (In relation and encouraged about your posture) Give more importance when you hold your breath. (Could be acceptable keep stabilize your aim from 0.5-3 sec in steps 0.5-1.0-1.5-2.0-2.5-3.0...always in relation your fatigue and your scope magnification .) That's all!,,,It's very easy to make it....more immersive and whitout give up to the fatigue effect and..more credible. ....that will be perfect!

It's funny to see how this new swing effect can to be awesome for who belived to be a professional gamer in full SIM,and so ridicouls who say the opposite. If i must to be honest i see it so irrealistic and so far from what can to be...credible. But i know that mind to be user friendly gamer or arcade gamer for you. If after 13 years that i follow this titles you think about it...what can i say?....You right!....I am not ready for this title..you are the new generation community that belived in it. But let's me say that swing mechanism it's so atrocious and whitout any logic true...if comparate in real life of course! ...but it's just a game...right?...not a sim!

....whic mechanics?..the drunk effect?:) Try to bring back a big fridge, and you will be sorprise, how you feel better later when you will removed it. It 'a great displeasure to see, day after day, that goes by this title to drift about nonsense! And the funniest thing with the approval of some players!FPDR

I had explain before the rules about as shoot a target,but i will repeat it again: 1)Before open the fire you have to find the right position about your weapon for the recoil. 2)Find the best posture...when it's possible. 3)Keep your heartbeat as calm as possible. 4)Focus your target. 5)Calculate the approximate distance of the target. 5)Keep the breath but not for too long, or you will get the opposite effect. ....and open the fire. Now if you can follow this standard rules whit this patch whitout see that crazy dance scope...i will install again the game because may be i get something wrong in my PC.

I dont understand how a software house, that develop game FPS as BI,can to be more credible that a professional Military as a Shooting Instructor. Normally they are that companies that they consult with them and not conversely. About the wrong idea to compare this new effect whit a real action life i dont see any example more true if i wont see what false and what irrealistic. I dont talking about more hard or more easy, but just if this one can to be credible or not,,,,and it's not! But i see that some people find it so exciting and so awesome this new invention whit trick and twaek video about: How shoot your target even if your scope sway ! You can find the right compromise for round this issue....but it's always a issue!

Nice...tell me whic weapon do you use..i can give you a nice video example!..LOL

May be you can found it more intresting...that's where i come from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9th_Parachute_Assault_Regiment I think that i can give some lesson about it to Bohemia Interactive ....without being presumptuous!

What's hard it's come back very fast, after the frist recoil about your weapon,to focus again on the target....keep calm heartbeat...and open the fire again. [i am talking in medium range target, in singol shot mode.] This will be affected by your posture and the tension that currently you feel....that's all! Saying so it seems easy but it is not! In fact, a normal shooter ,but already war veteran,he will always be more lethal than an exceptional shooter cadet to the frist action mission! Anyway.... the mechanism about works that swing it's absurd and illogical.

...dont be fun plz! No man!...May be you dont wont understand what it's true and what it's wrong. I dont need that somebody through a videogame explain to me how must work a assault rifle in reale life. Now!If you wont say, that for to play this game, i must adopt another way for what is obvious and normal ..... that's another thing! But dont tell me that this simulates reality! You could be sorprise what you can do in crounch position whit a M4 carabine to the frist target to 100-150 mt! What they should do instead is to simulate a higher recoil weapons and lower the sway effect and give greater priority to the breath!

I see that here there are so many veteran military about your past life....like me! Ok! Now tell me whic wepaon did use, and i will give you a example in reale life in a video, just for to end, this illusion about what it's real and what it's just immagination about this title. And just in case,if you are enjoy or you feel that it's a great improvement about this patch...dosent mind that it's true! I am not talking about what it's more fun or what it's better for me but just what it's reale to 100%....regardless of the game! The swinging about scope: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMWT5wtIRoc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpeWQU-Y_lc Standing position whit AK-74: Standing position CZ858 close range: Standing position M4 carabine: Traning: Learn about how fast you can open fire and shot: Do you cant move you and open fire? ...but LOL!: Como guys,,,there are a million video about it, and always you can see about wrong it's the concept about this patch!

I agree if you run in sprint mode after 100 mt, or run for more that 200 mt in normal mode...even if the recovery person who is trained he will still be always much faster that here. But if you are in relax time (heart rate at rest), especially if you are in prone position,that can happen just if you have a unbelived difficulty about coordination...as not finding the mouth with a fork!! :)

Just for curiosity but...how many people here have some experience about weapons? I am asking it because i dont understand how you can belived that in real life, something like a wepaon assault (about 4-5 Kg), can to be so hard to keep the aim in stable in relax time for 2-3 sec. If you have time try to go in a polygon and you will see that the sway it's a lots less in confront to this game....dosent matter in whic condition or posture! That dosent mind that it will be easy shot the target....but that happen for other cause as poor concentration....too many repetitive sessions to hold your breath..and so on! It's common thing to think that if a game become very difficult means that we are close to perfect simulation ..... as in this case...100%100 wrong! ...but if you are enjoy to belived it....ok!

There is even a video lesson about mathematical formulations of quantum mechanics?

Exactly...nobody know! That mind that it's unrealistic....until proven otherwise when will be confirm it into 2035 age! Unrealistic = not realistic...dosent exist...figment of the imagination...not authentic..etc..etc You answered yourself...bravo!

I give up!...givme a sec....

Again? But before live from your home do you check some books definition for talk whit yourself?..before was Oxford Dictionaries now Wiki...What will be the next?...Madama Voodo? This is a game right? And how is classificated it? Experience true combat gameplay in a massive military sandbox. Authentic, diverse, open - Arma 3 sends you to war. You can fly whit the fantasy where you like....Saturn..Mart....Pandora...but if you call something Authentic,in Earth planet..it's mind that exist!

That mind that ,if i follow that......DICTIONARIES,and into 2035 that uniforms will not be realized...just in that case....we could come back here and say: You see?...BIS were in mistake whit that uniforms?....but LOL! Can I make a suggestion? ... Leave it to the dictionary and use your rational logic! I belived just to the credibility of the past and present future...the rest is pure personal ideology and interpretation...and that mind that it's not TRUTH! Just whit the exception that BIS staff does not have the gift of clairvoyance,because in that case................:notworthy:

Hi I had already comment the concept about future uniforms in ArmA III : I didnt say that may be in far future we will not see that uniforms,but you cant call this game realistic if that things still dosent exist. In other words,it's just BIS fantasy...and there is a substantial difference in it!

Toc..toc?... Metralla? In steam forum it's enough normal this comportament, but here the Moderators works very well.....and you are not in that staff...right? And just in case......i was talking about patch 1.24 vers RC and RL! Before start like a bull check what i had written before. End about your History! PS Vibration effect? Whic type of gadget did you test?...a cell phone weapon? ;)

How we know there are 2 factors then determine the accuracy about one shot whit a weapon hand: 1) The frequency about your heartbeat. 2) The position and or posture, about your body and your weapon. If i am in relax time my heartbeat have to be ready for begin to aim the target,and if i see then still swinging too much my scope,i have to found a position, as crouched or prone, for minimize the weapon weight on the arms. There is not max stabilization if missing one of these two things. Here look like then when you hold the breath it's not seriously considered,indifferently by the two factors that i mentioned before,or not whit real efficacy..that mind about 1-3 sec. to imperceptible swinging. But it will be never possible to see a improvement, as in this case it's Fatigue Effect, whitout lose even an already old one existent as was the preview vers. about the stabilization whit the breath ? Always the same story about...one step forward and two steps back.