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Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
Maybe set your RAM via BIOS to 1333MHz and do the Benchmarks and then back to your 2800MHz and bench again, as there has to be a difference if the settings are right. Compared to my latest benchmarks (Altis = 37fps | Stratis = 41fps), you are having the 2-5fps extra, because your CPU is a bit better and your RAM is a bit faster. Even if you compare your new RAM to the 1866MHz one, there should be still a difference, but not as large, because the RAM was with CL9 not a high-end Kit. Get 3D-Mark and bench with 1333MHz and then with 2800MHz Settings, but keep the timings of the RAM the same, that things are easier to compare. The 3D-Mark Scores will be different for sure, if the RAM has the right settings. If there would be no difference on my system, I would never had recommended faster RAM for ARMA-3. That the difference between 2400MHz-RAM and 2800MHz-RAM is not as large, even in other Benchmarks, I mentioned before and you could see it in the "slow RAM is bottlenecking Haswell"-Article. I have HT enabled (for games like BF) and the build-in HD-Graphics disabled (less heat and therefor a bit more CPU-OC possible). Even a further OC from 4400MHz to maybe 4700MHz will NOT give you a huge improvement in ARMA-3. The amount of fps you are getting is pretty much the max you will get with the ultra-quality profile applied. @LSD_Timewarp82 will help you to fine-tune the quality-settings to get the max possible amount of fps in ARMA-3 with your rig. :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
There is for sure something wrong, even if it's only some settings. I just updated to Dev-Build v1.33.127670 and benched again: Auto / Ultra-Settings: RAM-Speed 1333MHz (10-11-11-28-2T): - Altis = 29fps - Stratis = 32fps RAM-Speed 2400MHz (10-11-11-28-2T): - Altis = 37fps - Stratis = 41fps As you can see it's still working and the improvements are within my promised range (5-10fps more). You should at least get another 2-5fps more because you went from 1333MHz to 2800MHz. I would really adjust some settings and double-check them as well, like: - disable Core-Parking - OC your CPU further, if possible - OC your GPU further, if possible - make sure that your CPU + GPU are not running into the Thermal Throttle - check your RAM-Timings - adjust your Windows-Power-Profile to High Performance / Samsung High Performance - move ARMA-3 on a SSD - enable the Rapid-Mode of your SSD - adjust your GPU-Driver-Settings to max. Performance etc.pp. - adjust your ARMA-3 Start-Parameters - install / use Fred's MemAlloc :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
Some of the Temps are only calculated / guessed by the tools, as your CPU is missing at least one sensor as far I know / heard about it. I'm really not sure if I will go for one of that CPU's when I will do my next upgrade, because I dislike that the max temps are 5C lower, but the whole CPU is already running much hotter, even without a large OC. :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
Just continue. Edit: I'm off now, as I have unfortunately wake-up early for work. Will be back after my work or so. :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
The difference between 1333MHz and 2400MHz is quite noticable everything above is not as spectacular, but you should still gain some fps. Another thing is, that 1866MHz is the bare minimum for Haswell, because everything slower is bottlenecking your CPU. Haswell Benchmarks Show that High Speed RAM gives Performance Boost in Gaming :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
The Power-Thingy only tells you the actual Power-Usage, which depends on your load. Beside that you have to re-adjust your Multiplicator etc. in your Bios. Don't forget your XMP-Thingy also. After that do some kind of Stress-Test and have a look how the temps are now. Have another look at HWINFO and if it shows you Thermal Throttling (just start it with Sensors only). :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
Try HWINFO and check if your cores get throttled. Also check your Temps with RealTemp. Don't OC with the Stock-Cooler, as it's not good enough ! :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
You should get at least 5-10fps more (SP) with the RAM. I would not really OC with the Standard-Heatsink. I overclock a bit different, as I disabled Core-Parking + increased the multiplicator + changed some BIOS-Settings + increased the Voltages a bit + disabled the HD-Graphics etc.pp. :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
I would get at least 2400MHz G.Skill's. Mine are: G.Skill 16G(4*4G) DDR3-2400 Quad Channel [TDX] F3-2400C10Q-16GTX (tightened timings: 10-11-11-28-2T). Your Bios should usually automatically choose the XMP-Mode, but you could double-check it and if necessary change the settings to XMP. :) -
Here you go: Click The TP seems to be a bit faster overall, but as I don't know someone who is playing ARMA-3 on top of that, I can't really rule out any negative impact. :)
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Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
I assume that you went with auto-detect, which gave you the ultra-profile and a quite similar outcome. That shows again that there would be pretty much no gain when opting for more GPU-Power and it seems to be pretty much the same under Windows-7 vs Windows-8.1 vs Windows 10 TP. A bit of a CPU-OC should give you a bit more fps and should get you closer to my numbers, but you run with slower RAM, so you will be most likely not better. :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
If you go to play => scenarios, then you should have the Stratis and Altis Benchmark. Just run them both with different graphic-quality-settings and after the benchmarks are finished, you will get the average amount of fps for the benchmark. Maybe your WEI is then ok. I didn't use Windows-7 for a long time. :) -
Yeah, I didn't install any additional games and the OS is still on a separate SSD to the Game and both SSD's have still heaps of free space. I'm not 100% sure if it could be the OS, but other games are still giving me the same amount of fps as before the update. I think I will have to wait that someone else is doing another benchmark run to be sure. :confused:
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Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
Please do some ARMA-3-Benchmarks and share your outcome with us. Thanks ! Here are my latest numbers: Click PS: Your WEI-Score for the CPU seems to be a bit odd to me. I score 8.5 with my 3770k @4700MHz under Windows-8.1-Pro-WMC-Update-1-x64. :) -
Ok, I did new Benchmarks, yeah they at least managed to fix the start-the-game-issue, but it doesn't look too good. I got a massive loss of fps and as I couldn't believe it, I tested several other games which ran just fine without any change in performance, so I assume that it is not OS / Driver-related. *(Dev.-Build v1.25.126046) :j:
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I hope that you are not considering "Titanfall" a hardware-hungry / demanding game. As COD got released in 2003 and has not changed much over the years, it's normal that a CPU from 2007 is still able to run it. ;)
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Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
That's right. Even with my rig I get "only" ~140-200fps, so it's borderline or just good enough for a 120Hz Screen @1920x1080. He should go for a cheaper screen and spent the savings on something else. I will at least wait for another CPU + MoBo-Upgrade, before I even consider a 120/144Hz-Screen. If ARMA is your main- / only game you play, then it's just a waste to throw so much hardware / money at it. PS: The Windows 10 Technical Preview seems to be not faster than Windows-8.1, at least not at this stage. :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
A 144Hz-Screen + a GTX970 for ARMA-3 ? Even if you play other games like BF4, then you need at least 2x GTX780-Ti's / 2x GTX780-Ti-GHz-Edition / 2x GTX980 to get >140fps with ultra-quality-settings @1920x1080. :) -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
I have unfortunately not enough time for that. :( -
Thanks for the update ! :)
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Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
From your previous reply it looked like that you were referring to MP numbers: I apologize, if you were referring to SP-Numbers. ;) -
Just judging from synthetic benchmark scores, the differences are roughly like: 2600k => +10% => 3770k => +10% => 4770k => +3-10% => 4790k 2600k => +23% => 4930k / 5820k => +15% => 6790k (?) Older Games gain less than future games. ARMA-3 is more on the older side. When doing 3D-Mark-Benches, then a 2600k @4500MHz is pretty much equal to a 3770k @4200MHz. Newer CPU-Generations are usually harder to OC, but there are some exceptions which are not really cheap and therefor not really worth to consider for a game like ARMA-3. :)
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Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
There is not really a point to upgrade your rig ONLY for the Arma-Series, except if you are trying to play with one of this 200-400 bucks "off-the-shelf" s***-boxes. BF and COD are at least improving with better hardware or even newer driver's. How much did we gain in Arma-3 since release ? Oh I forgot, that it is now even worse than when the game was still in a beta stage ... My rig is hell a lot better than yours and you try to tell me / us that you can run the game better and don't even provide any benchmark numbers ? How much do they pay you or are you only trying to troll us ? :j: -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
I finally got a massive improvement, because now I get only shortly a black screen and then ARMA-3 get's minimized to the taskbar. There is no error message popping up and the Arma.exe uses ~37% CPU-Load and ~500MB RAM. That's really awesome ! Thanks a lot for that ! But hey, I can at least open the launcher ! Not that it would help, but at least one part of the game seems to be working ... PS: I checked the game-files and they are ok. -
Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?
tonschuh replied to Placebo's topic in ARMA 3 - GENERAL
I have here some benchmark number which are around 6-7 weeks old: The numbers above are SP numbers and are achieved with this hardware: That should give you an idea about the ARMA-3 Performance. Maybe I do new benchmarks soon, as I pushed my GPU's further (Power-Target: 106% | Core-Voltage: 1.187V | GPU-Clock: 1255MHz | Memory-Clock: 7380MHz) and moved on to the GeForce v344.11. :)