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You guys seriously thought a medic system would get implemented? :) Judging by what Arma 3 is you can probably forget about it. Maybe in a future expansion but I have more faith in Santa Claus then in that happening.

Are you serious? I said binoculars. Not an espresso machine with lazors and cupholders. Binoculars, much like the ones that are in the game. Also if eyes compensate for carrying heavier laser designators etc in real life, then this should be simulated ingame by NOT HAVING SWAY. Jesus. This whole "lets implement retarded game effects so simulate real life" that have ZERO base in real life amazes me every time.

People say all kinds of weird stuff on this forum :D Arma 3 is a step back from Arma 2 in many ways, movement is not one of them. Arma 2 movement was very bad.

Well if that was the case they could do an official statement. Im sure many would support them if they asked for the communities help. Or they could Kickstart.

Wasnt this around the time that the development for A3 started taking a "different direction" according to the devs? Where they wanted something else with Arma 3? Maybe they decided to take a different direction as a company instead of just changing Arma. It could be they saw alot more potential for DayZ and Arma 3 got put in the backseat. I guess we will never know. I doubt BI will make make an official statement. What we can assume with almost 100% certainty is that DayZ affected and possibly changed BI. Why we can assume that? Well it generated ALOT of new sales. Question is if Arma is still top priority AND is the target audience the same? I think they are trying to expand and attract players that normally do not play Arma. From a business standpoint thats the smart thing to do. But we all know to attract a larger audience, there needs be some serious simplification. This will alienate older fans. Not all perhaps but a significant number. We are already seeing it in Arma 3. All of this is of course pure speculation but there are signs there. The same signs that usually appear in other franchises when devs want to change target audience for their games to attract the masses and increase sales. I guess we will have to wait and see how a potential expansion for Arma 3 turns out. If they release an expansion, judging by its content and features we might get a clear picture of what this franchise will be in the future. Btw metalcraze you are right. DayZ is far more realistic and advanced when it comes to certain areas. Medical system for example. The reason why I think it attracted more casual players is because of the hype. You know it was something new and all the cool kids play DayZ. I have several friends that did not like Arma but started playing DayZ when it got big. These guys usually play arcade games. @PurePassion Great post. Felt enlightening reading it. I get what you mean that some people in the community might get paranoid and get weird ideas (Im guilty of that ;)). But you must understand there is a reason for that. Pretty much the entire gaming industry has gone to shit if you ask me and alot of other gamers. I remember back in the days when a new sequel would blow my mind and do everything better. When a game would challenge me. That is a thing of the past now. When gamers have seen all their favorite games being wrecked so it can attract casuals and generate more revenue most loose faith in the industry. So far BI have been true. They have created games that do not aim towards the greater masses. But when players start seeing signs they know mean game is changing to attract more players, all past experiences get reminded and of course they get scared that the game they love will be ruined. Hope you understand what Im trying to say.

Maybe its the blur? I know that I am experiencing problems with it, along with others. Maybe thats what causing it for you to. Try to turn of all blur in video options. And dont get shot, because there is a graphical effect that forces blur :(

I think they consume money either way as long as they remain employed. Better then if they create content instead of fiddling their thumbs dont you agree? Or do you want BI to fire their art department and rehire them again for Arma 4?

I get your point about to much customer interference. That might be the case who knows. And yes the clutter in the feedback tracker is insane. Everything from coax mg should be 2½ cm more to the left on tank to OMG sniperrifle OP nerf NAOW!!!111 I think with the success of dayZ there came alot of "new blood" to the franchise. For better or worse. This certainly has increased the playerbase but also created a broader view on what Arma should be. In one camp you have the milsimers dating back from OFP. Then you have the "hybrid" players. That want some degree of realism but not as much as the milsimers. Then you have players that lean more towards the arcade side. Players that for example think that artificial gun balance should be introduced so no weapon is "overpowered", ignoring real life statistics of said gun. This is pure speculation but since the Arma playerbase has had such an increase and alot of new players have a very different view on how a game should be (the more arcade camp), I think they try to cater to all the camps at the same time. This ofcourse will fail miserably because you cant satisfy everyone. Not when their expectations differ so much. And yes it is true that BI are their own publisher and not governed by greedy capitalist scum (;)) ala EA, but they ofcourse like money. As do all humans on this planets. By changing Arma and make it more appealing to the mainstream crowd, they can increase their revenue. Imho there are signs of this in Arma 3.

Say what?

Agree that engine work is very much needed to add features that the community has been asking for forever and ofcourse performance and bug fixes. But 3D artist are not working on engine improvements :)

So disappointed fans are now paid by EA and Activision to slander BI? Just because we dont settle with mediocre and expect more from an Arma game we are supposed to shut up and not voice our opinion? Im sorry but that has to be one of the most retarded statements I have read on this forum.

I did ask it in the first place. I also replied to what you refer to as though out answers. Some were not really answers to my main question. Main question was future vision about Arma. Not detailed analysis of fatigue, which is discussed in other threads. I dont want this thread to go into detailed discussion on fatigue and thats where this thread was going. Hence my previous post. Do I dont see where I try to change the subject at all. Maybe you should learn to read? There will of course be a certain amount of players that want a change from say BF or CoD. A good example is dayZ. Alot of players that got attracted to it was because of the sandbox aspect and that it was unforgiving and hard. 90% of todays games hold your hand where dayZ kicked you in the balls. Many gamers say it as a fresh wind. But if you think for one second that the mainstream crowd will change for the better you are really naive my friend. Majority will not. How I see it now, Arma is changing and aligning slightly more towards "arcade" then previous games in the series. I guess it is to attract more casual players to increase Arma playerbase and increase revenue to the company. Which of course, is perfectly understandable even tho some fans do not agree with the changes to the game.

Most people that has been into gaming for a longer period of time and have played a broad range of genres, will note that almost all game franchises have taken a different route at some point. This happened first when developers started developing for both PC and consoles. Most games have been "dumbed down" to attract a broader audience. Now Im not saying that Arma 3 has really been dumbed down per say and certainly is not being developed to consoles :). I enjoy almost all genres. Everything from RPG, grand strategy games ala Paradox Interactive to twitch shooters and RTS. Now 90% of every game franchise Ive enjoyed and played has at some point changed. Developers have taken a good concept and changed it, most of the time to something worse. Every time this has happened, fans from previous games in the series have been disappointed and begged, whined and done everything to convince the developers to change it back to what made the franchise good in the past. That almost never happens. Now what Im trying to say here, most of us can agree that Arma 3 is different from Arma 2. They have done many improvements and added nice features but at the same time, the game has taken a step back in some areas from previous games. This is exactly what has happened with pretty much every game franchise out there. And if we learn anything from history it is that the developers will NOT change the bad in Arma 3. It is now what it is. There is alot of people that are in a state of denial and there is alot of wishful thinking going on. Now I agree that Bohemia is different developer and have in the past been a very generous developer and cares for their community and listens (not always). But as with every other developer out there they to can change. People are taking for granted that they will provide us with free content to make up for the shortfall in Arma 3. Maybe they will give us a few more toys to play with (2 CAS planes confirmed). But anyone that thinks they will revisit the copy paste content and add variety to the major factions lives in a fantasy world with pink bunnies and unicorns. It just wont happen. Here is what I think will happen. They will release some content for free, like the 2 CAS planes. Then comes the DLC. We will pay to get more weapons, vehicles etc. Hopefully new content will be more varied and not copy paste but this is not guaranteed. A major expansion will be released, similar to OA. This is a perfect opportunity for BI to redeem themselves. They can add all the features that were axed and add new factions with unique weapons and vehicles. Again this is best case scenario and it might turn out the be the exact opposite. I know Im being very negative, and alot of people will tell me that BI is different from any other developer out there. And I agree that they WERE different. Remember almost all developers out there have changed. Thinking BI is never gonna change is just naive. But as I said earlier, judging from history when a franchise takes a different direction, there is no going back. I truly hope I get proven wrong in the future.

Guys please, there are other topics to discuss sway and fatigue. I know i mentioned both as examples in the op but that was to highlight that game is very different from Arma 2. This thread is more about what direction the series will take with Arma 3 and any future installments. I think we can most of us can agree that Arma 3 plays very differently from Arma 2. Question is can we expect more "mainstream" from the future from Bohemia?

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