OstiasMoscas

No problem man. People are entitled to their opinions and to voice them! ;) I've been playing these games since the original OFP and I haven't really touched any of the MP content myself. I stick to single-player whether it's the editor, campaign or the single mission (can't remember what they're called atm). I'm really looking forward to the ArmA 3 single-player campaign and it does suck that we won't see it on launch. I just don't think it's such a big deal, seeing as we still have a lot of content and a fantastic editor to mess around with. No doubt we'll see some amazing singe-player content from the community down the road as well. Single-player content definitely belongs in the the OFP/ArmA series! ---------- Post added at 08:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:55 PM ---------- I know of a few sites that have separate reviews for MP and SP on certain games, where the two reviews are published at different times. They will be aware of the campaign not being a part of the game, and will review it accordingly. It won't be an after-release review if the campaign hasn't been released... In that case, if the campaign is reviewed at all, it'll be a separate review.

Instead of writing non-sense like "you don't get it" explain to him exactly it is what he isn't getting.. Any reviewer with a shred of intelligence will do one of two things: 1) Have a separate review of the content available at launch and the single-player campaign. 2) Hold off on the review until until the single-player campaign is available and then do a complete review.

How so?

I see your point, but that's a pretty horrible comparison, for obvious reasons. Why should a game where you've paid for early access, be exempt from having content delayed? I don't know whether you bought the game at the Alpha stage or at the Beta stage, but when you bought it you basically agreed to having the content delivered to you piece by piece over a certain period of time. The release date forms the basis for when you should have the complete contents of the game. However it is well known that release dates can be pushed. By buying in early we all run the risk of content being changed to a certain degree, or that content might get delayed. Of course it sucks when a significant portion of your incentive to buy the game is delayed. But they way Bohemia are doing it, from what I understand, you'll at least get to enjoy all of the game content minus the single-player campaign. I think most people prefer that alternative to the whole game being delayed. Even if we don't get all the game content on the planned release date, it's still better to have some of it than none of it. And Bohemia isn't saying it is the community's job to deliver the content. The content is coming. A delay isn't something that's unheard of in the gaming world. How much you decided to pay for the game, is of no significance. BIS can't be faulted for you choosing to buy the Supporter Edition (in which case you also got more than one game). Agreed. But then again I think Bohemia are very thankful for the great community their games have created. Again, I disagree that they're relying on community created content. It's not like a great heavy burden has been put on your shoulders. If you decide to create content, then that's great. If not, then that's fine too. The official content is coming. Bohemia aren't demanding that you go into overdrive to create fresh content for their game. How on earth is "f you're limiting yourself to only playing the single-player campaign, you are missing out on what the game truly has to offer." a ridiculous statement? How is it not true? Of course you might not want to try the editor, or maybe you aren't a fan of MP. I still holds true that you are limiting yourself, and are missing out on a great deal of what the game can offer you. You don't really need and skills or a great imagination to create content for yourself on the basic level. Putting units on the map and creating a few waypoints will take you a couple of minutes at most. There is plenty of content available (for those who want it) to tie you over, until the single-player campaign eventually is released.

Deriving an understanding from a certain context is unheard of, right?

Which is exactly what I'm addressing in my post, cf. "basically what's happening". By releasing most of the game content on the original release date, but pushing the release of the single-player campaign, fans of the series are still able to enjoy the game. If the only alternative would be to delay the release of the game as a whole, I think most would agree that to be worse. Whether they call it an extended beta, or finished game without the single-player campaign doen't really matter all that much. In reality it's pretty much the same exact thing. However, they should undoubtedly make their customers aware of the fact that certain aspects of the game will be released on a later date. Without us having to relying on getting our info from a third party. That being said, you still get the exact same content that you have paid for, you only get it at a later date - akin to a game having it's release date pushed. If I remember correctly, they did mention that they would explain the situation to the community properly in the next spotrep. I disagree that they are setting a precedent with this release. They have seen how the community has reacted, and if they do something similar in the future, they'll hopefully have learned from their mistake and give us a proper explanation, first hand. I doubt they'd willingly get themselves in the same situation again, considering the amount of negative response this have gotten from the community. As for BI telling the community to do their work for them, community created content will always be a part of ArmA games, whether game content is released on the planned date or not.

In my opinion no one should buy ArmA for SP alone. How was that hard to read from what I wrote? Reading comprehension is part about being able to understand what's written, from a certain context. Considering the context it was written in, it shouldn't really be necessary with a whole lot of deciphering to arrive at what's written above. Especially when after having written "You don't buy ArmA for the SP", continue to write that I can understand why people are upset.

Yeah, presumptuous, that's me. I made it pretty clear I was speaking for my self, voicing my own opinion. I also wrote that "I can see why people are upset". I realize some people are fans of the SP and plays it. I'm one of them. In fact, I basically haven't touched the MP of the neither the ArmA series nor the original OPF games (not even co-op). However, sometimes games have their release dates pushed. And this is basically what's happening. Except, Bohemia have chosen to release the finished parts of the game. Meaning those who want to can enjoy every other aspect of the game, while waiting for the single-player campaign to be released. Would it be better/less upsetting if the delayed the whole thing? At least now you can still play the finished MP or create your own missions/skirmishes in the editor. You have access to the islands, all three factions, and every single weapon and vehicle. As a huge bonus you also have access to one of the best and most creative online communities there are, and the awesome content it produces. Although you won't have the official campaing there are still fun to be had in community created missions, or trying out different mods. If you're limiting yourself to only playing the single-player campaign, you are missing out on what the game truly has to offer.

I realise I might be a bit late to the party, but my 2 cents about a campaign not being included at launch: I don't really give a crap. You don't buy ArmA for the SP. Still, I can see why some people are upset. The MP, editor and all the custom scenarios (and all the mods of course) created by the community is what it's all about though. You have both islands, all three factions, every weapon, every vehicle and endless opportunities. Knock yourselves out.

Some night fighting gameplay, the result of messing around in the editor for about two minutes.. I really like setting up these small, but somewhat intense, skirmishes :) WKmU2RCYOZY Assault on the lighthouse: pHDQApV-8Ls The medic is such a badass.. Walking straight through that damn shack to heal me, he ain't letting silly things like hard surfaces stop him.

I did the exact same thing. Not really a problem, just use the HMW and first drive towards Elektrozavodsk, don't take the coastal route. When you get the message that you didn't make it to the ship in time, start going towards NAPA (you can change the NAPA/CDF selection if you press M and change your current task). When you reach the village they're in Novy Sabor (I think), get out of your vehicle and start moving in the forests. Make your current task to get to the CDF, you're about 4 km away from their line (or 6 km), but start making your way towards their lines, the mission ends a short while after you pass Vyshnoye (imagine a line going vertically across the map from Vyshnoye, you don't have to physically go to Vyshnoye, just cross the "line") .. or basically just start moving towards the CDF lines from the beginning, tryt and avoid the enemies, and if you drive.. stop for nothing and don't use the main roads. After a while running in the forrests may be a good idea. Remember to speed up the time to x4 if you're on foot.. or it'll take a while :p

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The Corsair XMS3 is 1.65V, do you know if that is the right voltage for the MSI P55-GD65?

Great, thanks! I wouldn't want to f'up my brand new mobo by using the wrong kind of RAM :p