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I don't know about you, I'm sorry but the Eastern European just doesn't peak my interest. It's very plain and old. With this setting it just reminds me of a Modern Day World War 2. I know that BI are set up in Germany so it makes it easier for them and they can accurately make the setting much easier. But their past three Military Games have all been the same setting, Communists invading small Eastern European countries and the U.S. Capitalists intervene. First it was Flashpoint, then it was ArmA now it's ArmA 2. All the same thing, they're all basically expansions of one another. Obviously the setting is good for the game with open plains, villages, mountains and forest but there are many other places like that in the world. I really enjoyed the African setting of Far Cry 2 and I'm sure that this could be integrated into ArmA 3. But c'mon, another Eastern European setting? Let's try something different...

I searched and I provided links, other than a difference in seasons those look the same to me. And congrats to BI for going for something different with Eastern Europe, but it's their third title and it's still the same setting. I prefer change, this looks like the same experience.

Perhaps, but from videos I've seen...but yet no one has told me what's different about ArmA 2. You just say something like that. So tell me, how is the setting different? Let me show you: Flashpoint ArmA ArmA 2

I would say that's fairly accurate, but wouldn't you say that OFPDR combined some of the mechanics of BF and MW with Flashpoint so that they can grasp more audiences while BI have stayed true to their fans and kept it the way it should be?

I said the time period, and obviously the map and the storyline are different. But I didn't sit there taking notes on stuff like that, I mean gameplay. He had the Demo, but I just wattched as he was a U.S. soldier attacking a Russian occupied village in a setting similar to Eastern Europe. Everything felt the same to me, ArmA just felt like Flashpoint with better graphics, more equipment and a bit of spit and polish here and there. Did I say I own it? I said I saw my mate play it. I didn't sit him down and interview him on the game, I just saw what it was like. And what I saw looked basically the same as Flashpoint, Eastern Europe. :rolleyes:

I was told by someone they were German, I thought they were closer to the East but it's better to say German instead of somewhere in the East. And obviously German isn't Eastern, but it's on the same continent and they are very close to Eastern Europe and have greater access. It's surprising just how many people steer away from the question in these forums, they'd rather pick out small things not related to the thread.

I've not played it on PC so I don't get modded content. I played Flashpoint: Elite on Xbox, my mate showed me ArmA on his PC and now I find ArmA 2. In all honesty, I can't see much difference between Flashpoint: Elite and ArmA 2 except graphics, weapons and the time of the game.

Second thread and the first thread was a question, not a bitch.

I don't know much about this game, but is the storyline about Communists trying to overthrow the Democrats? If this is the case of the storyline, why does the USMC intervene? The Cold War is over, the Communists are no longer a threat, so why would they care what happens in this small country. What do they get from it? So mainly, why does the US government feel the need to get involved in this war? What is it they benefit from it? It just seems they're being portrayed as Good Guys who just want to help without expecting anything in return.

For their sake it better be, ArmA 2 has targeted one audience, OFPDR has targeted several audiences and will get noticed much more than ArmA 2. Keep that in mind BI.

Yeah...I guess that's basically it. There's my answer, there is no reason, in this World everything is black and white, good and evil. Well if the Mission Editor is all it's cracked up to be (and this game comes out on 360), perhaps I can fill in the gaps. Or if BI decide to make ArmA 3, they might think through the true reasons. You can close this thread by the way, my question is answered.

So I guess I have my answer, there is no real reason that the USMC are intervening, they only do it to be good guys. I guess I should get ready for another corny story, I'll still buy though. You ask why the U.S. is the problem? I only asked because their the main characters in the game, but if you want me to get political and tell you why their the real problem in real life, your better of PMing me. BTW, for OFPDR, it probably is a marketing strategy. Ever notice they got the biggest armies in the world and mashed them into one conflict on a small island? I just do hope that the 360 game comes out shortly, maybe I can fill in the gaps

For example, I'm sure everyone knows the Game Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising. The game's plot is that the Chinese and Russians are at war on an island that has the largest untapped oil and gas reserves in the World. The USMC back the Russians to remove the Chinese from the island. The reasons or motivation for doing so was not only to have a stronger alliance with the Russians, but more than likely to strike a deal to get the oil and gas for cheap or for free. Now look at ArmA 2, they intervene with this civil war, they back the democrats over the communists...but why? There's no oil or anything there, there's no plan to develop a base there so why? ---------- Post added at 02:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:06 PM ---------- My apologies, I didn't realise. It's just that this is on-topic as it has to do with the political side of the ArmA 2 storyline.

Countries that asked for serious aid, what about the Rwandan Genocide? Almost 1 million people killed in 100 days, no help came for them? And I'm sure they asked for aid. And yes, I agree with you that not many people know what ArmA is. I would say that's because this game is aimed at a specific audience, not the general population to maximize profits. That's what I'm asking, what's the reason?

Lol, touche. If this game ever comes out on 360, I'll buy. But one thing that annoyed me about Flashpoint 1 was the corny story. It just didn't feel realistic, I've yet to see a game that could portray a story that could potentially happen in real life.

Yeah, I saw yours after I posted mine. I know it's made up, obviously, and it's just a game. But if this is a Realistic Military Simulation, don't you think they could at least make a Realistic Story line?

That's good man, I like to see that you put in a long answer. Personally, I think BI put the USMC in for those reasons, but for marketing. More people in the World would rather play as the USMC than let's say the Chinese Army, or a Georgian Army. But once again, let's look at the story. Communists trying to overthrow the Democrats in this small country, the Democrats ask for help and the USMC respond? Why would they want to do that? This is a small country having a civil war, it happens all the time and the USMC never respond to those, so why this particular one?

What is this Game like Online? It looked kinda boring last time I saw it.

I know the Marines can be deployed quickly, I heard they can be deployed anywhere in the world within 18 hours. But no one has answered the question, why does the USMC intervene. Why does the US feel the necessity to get involved with a Civil War? As far as I can see, this doesn't affect them whatsoever, as I said, the Cold War is over so who cares if the Communists win.

So no one has really told me why the USMC, I've been told it's based of the Georgian Incident. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Georgia invaded Ossetia while killing Russian Peacekeepers. So after this, the Ossetians and the Russians drove back the Georgians and invaded them. Is this right? If so, I ask again, why the USMC? I've never even heard of these countries until this incident occured.

So they're the Knight in Shining Armour? Lol, I won't start ranting, you have usmc in your name ;)

Not cool, I've read several times that ArmA 2 is coming out on 360 the same time as PC. Why would they stick this thread then?

Is that the release date for the 360 version as well?

So I shouldn't go to the store next week to buy this game? It said the release date is the 26th, I'm assuming that they made the X360 version along side the PC version, so will it be out next week?