Winters

Thanks Spinor, I think i can work with this, after all if i can get them to scroll across it shouldn't be much of a problem to adapt it to go up.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IsthatyouJohnWayne @ Mar. 20 2003,20:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"According to Israel's Channel 1 TV news, none of the Iraqi missiles today were Scuds" Thats in conlict with a report from Channel 4 news (UK) where i just saw a reporter say that US troops having inspected one of the craters have told him and other reporters that it was a scud, but they had no other way of confirming that. We might have to wait a while to get certain confirmation either way<span id='postcolor'> Yeah, it will be a while for confirmation. Just because it makes a big hole like a scud does not mean it was a scud. I heard that of the 5 missles fired last night 1 fell harmlessly into the desert and 2 were shot down by patriot 3's. But i am here at work and have not been able to follow up.

Hmmmm, is it even possible to do this?

Sarcasm and even Jokes often do not travel well over the internet. That said, i hope the civilian casualties will be minimal at best.

I am afraid we will never know the truth about the alleged WMD (unless of course he uses them) as the only ones who could have proved it with near 100% credibilty were the UN Inspectors. Anything thats found now will always be open to debate on it's validity.

Dunno if you have room for any more players but if you do go ahead and send the rules to: anskytim@yahoo.com Thanks

Denoir, The point i was trying to make in the iraq thread is that there are multiple threads that are bashing the US People not the Gov't. I am sure if i came on and started to bash based on ethnicity and race i would be banned quickly, This is pretty much the same thing, you lock a thread about the french citing "there is enough french bashing in the media" but then you let people call americans whatever they want. I am just asking for a fair deal. I am not trying to make trouble, i like this forum.

so then its "feel free to bash the US but dont dare bash anyone else or i will lock the topic"

Ok here ya go, but what i said still stands, this is NOT about OFP. "about wars, military conflicts and everything what pertinent to Army" Even if this forum section is called Offtopic, it is still part of Operation Flashpoint discussion board - and any topics that are completely unrelated to OFP can be closed or deleted. We see no reason why we should dedicate our bandwidth and hosting space to such discussions. Notice the part about "Completely unrelated to OFP"?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 19 2003,22:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Winters @ Mar. 19 2003,22:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am afraid this forum is becomming nothing more than a place to come to and vent your frustrations out about America.<span id='postcolor'> It will pass. Unfortunately many Americans that indeed do not support Bush get caught in the crossfire. The rethorics is always very polarized. Those that are pro war will try by any means to show that their cause is righteous and just while those that are anti war are going to do their best to disprove that. So on one hand you have a image of "USA the Saviour of the World" and on the other hand is "USA the Great Satan". Don't take it personally and average the claims out to get an objective picture.<span id='postcolor'> Maybe i am slightly biased having been in Gulf War 1, it hurts me to see what is going on in my government. I only hope the next President decides to clean up the international mess this jerk is making. But i will give him credit for one thing and one thing only. He was right when he said the UN must step up i mean what does "Serious Consequences" mean anyway? that could be interpreted in many different ways and i think this is the major contributor to all the political strife and upheaval thats going on. They could have simply said "Or face another Attack" that would have been clean and simple. I fear the UN will soon become a non-entity as no one will take them seriously.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 19 2003,22:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Winters @ Mar. 19 2003,22:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">USA is not the only country to plant evidence.<span id='postcolor'> No it certainly isn't. Everybody does it during war. We were however discussing the possibility of planting WMDs and some here claim that USA never would do such a thing.<span id='postcolor'> But what does this have to do with OFP? to quote Suma: Even if this forum section is called Offtopic, it is still part of Operation Flashpoint discussion board - and any topics that are completely unrelated to OFP can be closed or deleted. We see no reason why we should dedicate our bandwidth and hosting space to such discussions. So i ask again, what do WMD's have to do with OFP?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 19 2003,22:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Winters @ Mar. 19 2003,22:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">USA is not the only country to plant evidence.<span id='postcolor'> No it certainly isn't. Everybody does it during war. We were however discussing the possibility of planting WMDs and some here claim that USA never would do such a thing.<span id='postcolor'> Although things that are being said are true. I am afraid this forum is becomming nothing more than a place to come to and vent your frustrations out about America. We may not have the greatest government in the world (but then again who does?)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 19 2003,22:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">5--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Schoeler @ Mar. 19 2003,225)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Denoir, I've offered otherexamples of U.S. whistleblowing. Â The point is not when it comes out or how long it takes, but the odds that it will be revealed eventually. Â It isn't worth the risk or the trouble of faking it.<span id='postcolor'> I don't deny that some things are bound to come out. I am however very sure that there are at least as many examples of situations that never got out. The only thing what we can say is that USA is known to plant evidence before. That makes it not unlikely and certainly not impossible that it will happen again.<span id='postcolor'> USA is not the only country to plant evidence.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cam0flage @ Mar. 19 2003,21:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, this is it, I guess ... I thought Saddam still had five hours before the deadline. http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1084275,00.html<span id='postcolor'> Yeah, as if he was gonna leave.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ Mar. 19 2003,20:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Didn't in the TV episode, Saddam invaded Canada or something? -=Die Alive=-<span id='postcolor'> Yeah, he tricked Terrance and Phillip into going to Iraq and while they were gone he invaded Canada. But they killed him at the Grey Cup, while celine dion was singing the Iraqi national anthem they all put on gas masks and started to fart until the poison gas cloud killed the Iraqis.

Uh-Oh you got Placebo mad, don't make him put the smackdown on your arse. Can't we all just agree that Pretzels like all other snacks are Yummy?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Mar. 19 2003,19:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually, I thought it was pretty funny Though, Saddam in the South Park movie WAS pretty tasteless. Â I mean, COME ON! *cough*penis*cough*devil*cough<span id='postcolor'> The episode was much better than the movie, when i saw it i said to myself "damn, a lot of people are going to get pissed" but i still thought the movie had some rather hilarious parts. Like when the kids leave the theatre and they are all singing the "Uncle Fooker" song.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Mar. 19 2003,19:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Winters @ Mar. 19 2003,19:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">all this talk about Pretzels is making me hungry, i think i will go outside and get me a nice big pretzel from the ARAB Vendor.  Yummy  <span id='postcolor'> Don't forget to chew  <span id='postcolor'> Don't worry its a "Soft" Pretzel.

all this talk about Pretzels is making me hungry, i think i will go outside and get me a nice big pretzel from the ARAB Vendor. Yummy

Hellfish, I am sure that other vets of '91 feel the same way we do.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bart.Jan @ Mar. 19 2003,19:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">United States of America : The World's Foremost Nation of War Just interesting reading. Is it something that some nation can be proud of or is it anti-US propaganda ?<span id='postcolor'> It's an editorial, if i looked i could find the same type of information about other countries. But i have a real job to do.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FallenPaladin @ Mar. 19 2003,19:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not bad! Â BTW has he been in The Simpsons already?<span id='postcolor'> Nope, Just South Park. and speaking of South Park, He was also in the "Terrance & Philip" episode as well as the movie.

Great Job, i needed a hearty laugh today.

Back on Topic, I am afraid that propaganda will always be used in any conflict. It's an attempt to boost the morale of your troops win acceptance at the homefront and to demoralize the enemy. In '91 when i was in the gulf we had soldiers surrenduring to us all the time that carried leaflets the airforce dropped that showed pictures of iraqis sitting around a HUGE plate of fruit and LARGE pitchers of water while some friendly G.I.'s stood by. Everyone was smiling in the picture, we got a big laugh at that.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FallenPaladin @ Mar. 19 2003,18:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I said most of them UK has asskissing Tony as leader and almost the same problem you over there in the USA has. A political leader which gives a shit about his citizen`s thoughts. It`s the same with Australia. And Spain is also quite poor. From the western european countries it had a rough time after the Euro was introduced. The US government isolated itself from the rest of the world in the last months under Bush, Wolfowitz and the "hawks". Even with the "coalition of willing" the US government is isolated. But all this is kinda offtopic. With this topic I just wanted to point out the US propaganda and that it uses the same methods like the germans used in WW2 and like many other countries did before.<span id='postcolor'> Ok good point, I just hate it when people bunch me in with the jerks in Washington. Everytime i see his stupid "i am better than you, you don't know squat" smirk i want to smack it off. How much longer until 2004?