Heatseeker

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nyles @ April 18 2003,18:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Marines were peacekeeping that region before they were withdrawn to fight in the Gulf War. Aussies took over then.<span id='postcolor'> Yeah right...it took more than 20 years for someone to do something about Timor and a couple weeks to take action on Kuwait, i wonder why . Reason i would like to play fictional again is because i was oppin BIS could create a war where we would feel we were doing something good to the world, fighting for freedom of opressed ppl, tirany of a ficticious dictator, like in the original opf , i wouldnt like to play in a real life based stupid event like Nam, it would make me feel stupid .

Special forces, i like to do it alone, im also more efective alone at night with silenced weapons, than commanding a 12 men infantry squad .

IL? Excuse my ignorance but what does East Timor (currently named Timor Loro Sae) have to do with the u.s. marines, werent the aussies leadered by General Cosgrove and other countrys (Nato) responsible for the liberation? The ones who got rid of the pro-indonesia militia? America always had good relations with Indonesia even after they invaded Timor and massacred hundreds of civilians (no oil there ), i would rather play another fictional campaign, with real NATO forces this time.

IL? Excuse my ignorance but what does East Timor (currently named Timor Loro Sae) have to do with the u.s. marines, werent the aussies leadered by General Cosgrove and other countrys (Nato) responsible for the liberation? The ones who got rid of the pro-indonesia militia? America always had good relations with Indonesia even after they invaded Timor and massacred hundreds of civilians (no oil there ), i would rather play another fictional campaign, with real NATO forces this time.

I voted NO for vietnam (not that it will make a diference...),i would also vote NO for any real life event based new opf, personnaly fictional is the way to go, real life event based games give us way too many limitations. I dont think bis would cash in on a event where so many soldiers and specially civilians died , will we get to bomb Saigan? drop napalm over civilian villages, cut the ears outa dead enemies and use those around our neck?(it happened...) all other atrocities the U.S. military did to civilian ppl is not worth mention. Then theres WW2, can you imagine opf without helicopters, APCs, and other cool stuff? . And finnaly a mix of eras and conflicts, i can imagine running to a ammo crate in a MP game and find a M16, a Mosquette, some potato mashers and all, or to chase WW2 era tanks on a apache helicopter, that would be weird eh I hope they keep it modern and fictional, it worked great the first time.

I voted NO for vietnam (not that it will make a diference...),i would also vote NO for any real life event based new opf, personnaly fictional is the way to go, real life event based games give us way too many limitations. I dont think bis would cash in on a event where so many soldiers and specially civilians died , will we get to bomb Saigan? drop napalm over civilian villages, cut the ears outa dead enemies and use those around our neck?(it happened...) all other atrocities the U.S. military did to civilian ppl is not worth mention. Then theres WW2, can you imagine opf without helicopters, APCs, and other cool stuff? . And finnaly a mix of eras and conflicts, i can imagine running to a ammo crate in a MP game and find a M16, a Mosquette, some potato mashers and all, or to chase WW2 era tanks on a apache helicopter, that would be weird eh I hope they keep it modern and fictional, it worked great the first time.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (icemaniac_02 @ April 17 2003,10:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1: the cockpit is NOT bulletproof, i didnt shoot the hind down i killed the pilot resulting in the hind not longer flying. then i killed the gunner WHILE he was STILL in the cockpit that is not bulletproof. then i stole the hind. tyvfm<span id='postcolor'> One may easily try this placing a hovering unarmed hind at 10 meters height in desert island and try to shoot the pilot or gunner, it wont happen, and i remember playing this mission in version 1.0 , only way to do it was to avoid all enemies cause the A.I. was too freaking hard on that version, after 1.46 it became a peace of cake .

^^ Your right! I dont believe you cause the Hinds cockpit is bullet proof, it is impossible to shoot down a Hind with a rifle, it works for the blackhawk, cobra, chinook, etc but not for the hind nor the Mi17 .

A bud lended me his game and said: "you seen to enjoy combat games, try this one!" I took a look at the box and though "Wow, looks awsome!!!" while instaling i took a look at the manual and it felt very complicated, first mission was "steal the car" and it didnt look has good has the screens on back of the box, aiming was hard, enemy was invisible and deadly, interacting with houses was a pain, etc...after trying for an hour i thought UNISTALL! Couple of days later i gave it another try and went to see the campaign, i only returned the game to my friend when Golden version came out ,when i want to show how great this game is to a friend of mine i just load "After Montignac" in veteran mode and see their desperation while i tell em bout the features of the game, mod support, etc. It usually works

Nam? We will get to play U.S. vs. VC? Are they replacing the crazy ruskies with poorly armed vietcong soldiers ,that would end my hopes of balanced units for both sides, west would have helos, tanks, artillary and fighter jets and vc would have elephants to transport supplies over the mountains , i think not, i tend to believe in another ficticious war on an imaginary chain of Islands that dont even exist, that would be a great idea huh? .

Nam? We will get to play U.S. vs. VC? Are they replacing the crazy ruskies with poorly armed vietcong soldiers ,that would end my hopes of balanced units for both sides, west would have helos, tanks, artillary and fighter jets and vc would have elephants to transport supplies over the mountains , i think not, i tend to believe in another ficticious war on an imaginary chain of Islands that dont even exist, that would be a great idea huh? .

what version? Originally the mission was very buggy but in version 1.30 and 1.46 i could play it fine, oh and you have resistance , do you have red hammer compatbilitie(spl?) pach? It is suposed to fix probs caused by new scripting comands and other stuff introduced with resistance (i think ). P.S. your spoiler almost gave me a hart atack

Everything , games where blackops armed with G36 rifles and reloadable laws fly alone in their hind helicopter (3rd person on, ofcourse ) and throw rockets at the enemy spawn, where combat simulation is replaced with vehical abuse and fast paced ridiculous action, where players compete in coop mode to see who gets most kills and rush into their own deaths just to find that respawn is not available, where combat is replaced with poor strategy gameplay where buildings come out of nothing, vehicals respawn out of nothing...why cant helicopters be available to pilots only? same with tanks Best moments in opf were playing mission like "Ambush", fighting for survival in "after Montignac", MP is a big deception, bis gave us the tools but we dont know how to use em ...

Hello all , i would like to see... -well decorated islands, Nogova is... bald , the use of cover works best on the old islands and dispite the low res brushery and trees old islands still look better. -balanced units for east and west (vehicals, weapons). -realistic weapons, G36 and reloadable law should be left out. -better looking soldier models, some more details like ammo belts on the gunner, better looking hands,arms, feet, etc... -better light efects during daytime, sometimes it looks a bit watercolored and too bright (hard to explain...). -abilitie to carry more equipment(ammo clips, grenades, non lethal equipment like smoke and flares). -a good combination of forests and villages (I love Malden) big buildings and huge cities dont fit the game so well. -realistic interaction with water, a swamp would fit very well. -the abilitie to fastrope from helicopters -more accurate infantry combat. -A well polished and finished product that will make me throw all other games to the dust colecter for its unique features, feel, realism, game engine, just like opf did some time ago (take yer time ).

Hello all , i would like to see... -well decorated islands, Nogova is... bald , the use of cover works best on the old islands and dispite the low res brushery and trees old islands still look better. -balanced units for east and west (vehicals, weapons). -realistic weapons, G36 and reloadable law should be left out. -better looking soldier models, some more details like ammo belts on the gunner, better looking hands,arms, feet, etc... -better light efects during daytime, sometimes it looks a bit watercolored and too bright (hard to explain...). -abilitie to carry more equipment(ammo clips, grenades, non lethal equipment like smoke and flares). -a good combination of forests and villages (I love Malden) big buildings and huge cities dont fit the game so well. -realistic interaction with water, a swamp would fit very well. -the abilitie to fastrope from helicopters -more accurate infantry combat. -A well polished and finished product that will make me throw all other games to the dust colecter for its unique features, feel, realism, game engine, just like opf did some time ago (take yer time ).