Heavy Metal

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">forgot to add the slingshot in this kind of thread but what puzzles me is that if u need a license to own a airgun over 12 ft\lbs how come u dont need one for a bow,crossbow or harpoon gun<span id='postcolor'> Because the English still fear a combined attack by Viking Longboats in concert with Moby Dick most of all!

US Army Uniform Regs: http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r670_1.pdf

Bloefield would never catch 007 if he had one of those!

Precisely! I am talking about standard .mil type loadings.

Yeah, but they actually have a flying prototype or two now.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Another thing I like about the 5.56 is that its fast, and I mean fast.Traveling at 3700 fps.So that means It'll hit your target in a shorter time, and you don't need to aim in front of a running target as much.<span id='postcolor'> Try 3150 to 3250 feet per second. 5.56 isn't quite that fast.

How about one of theses instead? Moller Skycar

Ok, Now the Observer is saying they 'standarized' the text for a British audience: "· Footnote: This email was originally transcribed with English spellings standardised for a British audience. Following enquiries about this, we have reverted to the original US-spelling as in the document leaked to The Observer." [churchlady]How convenient!!!![/churchlady] I guess they figured their own readership would have a total mental blank and prove totallly incapable of divining the true meaning of the words without that slight anglization and might misconstrue the meaning of the whole document! No, we can't dare copy and paste the (alleged) email in one fell swoop! Just how stupid do they think people are?!? They are now trying to piss down peoples backs and tell them that it is merely raining!

Mine is somewhere in this pile: http://www.inrangec2.com/photos/a74-2.jpg

Regardless of the date, no american spells those particular words with an anglicized dialect like that. Occam's Razor seys that the odds are 99.9% this is a fake.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What happened is a social/psychological misunderstanding/clash<span id='postcolor'> Yeah! Just like in WWII with Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany. Thank God the Socialogists resolved that conflict in our favor! What terrible outcome would have came about if we had ignored them then?

And to think I was going to build my own Merkava using PVC pipe for the main gun, cardboard for the armor and a pringles can for the AP Mortar!

Make sure the ejector tab on your reciever is discolored like the hammer/trigger holes are. Ohio Ordinance let some get out without hardened ejector tabs. Ohio Ordinance does a second heat treat on the holes and the tab using an electric induction technique. The whole thing is heat treated but the holes and tab are harder still.

I guess I should have been more clear and stated that no one uses RHA alone RHA is used but you have other materials like DU , Ceramic layers down to the Kevlar Anti-Spall liners. Â I assure you that the side armor and the frontal glacis is more than just RHA. The main structural component in the hull of an Abrams is stainless steel and everything else is packed behind it. Even as far back as the 60's the T-64 had a ceramic lining to make for a primitive composite armor. Â The ceramic layer was supposed to help protect against HEAT rounds. Inrange uses a 'metacol' type finish from Kal-Guard. He completly strips and bead blasts the metal before application.

Did your kit come with polymer stocks or with the 'reeks of turpentine' wood? Troy Sellars at Inrange is building mine up on an Ohio Ordinance AK-74 reciever with Olive Drab Warsaw Pact length US compliance stocks from K-Var He is also building me a 5.45 Bulgarian Krink (a Semi only SBR AKS-74U) for me next month. It will be a class three SBR when complete. This one is being built on an FEG 5.45 reciever from Global Trades.

Romanian SAR-3 With Bulgarian Waffle mag and now with an Eagle Tactical sling and a Kobra-2 OEG! Not to mention I replaced the furniture with the cast outs from a Bulgarian 74 kit and Painted it with Brownells Alumina-Hyde II and Brownells baking laquer! What is my screen name at arfcom? Me consults Moses MCP Cone Computer at SuperBestPals HQ! [mcpmoses]......uhhhhh..........uhhhh..........uhhhh.......Your arfcom screen name is HeavyMetal![/mcpmoses]

What's the Difference between .308 Winchester & 7.62x51mm NATO?

......uhhhhhh........ The rounds are transporting tehmselves into a parallel dimension! A stabilization failure would produce 'keyholed' rounds on target. While possible, Occam sez this is highly unlikely. The L85 has a fast twist rifling ans should stabilize both M-193, M-196 Tracer as well as M-855 and M-856 Tracer rounds. Could it be perhaps that your scope is waaay miszeroed? Try shooting at a closer and bigger target.

You are correct Sir! Â It is Fabrique Nationale and not Sweden who deserves credit for the SS109. Â I knew better but put the wrong thing down. Â Musta had the Swedish Bikini Team on my mind Its adoption was a result of the NATO trials of 1979-1980 IIRC. I perfer 'incapatation' to stopping power and detests the phrase 'knockdown power' as nothing short of a true cannon possess that type of kinetic effect. Fackler may not be perfect but he uses documented scientific methodology that anyone else who cares to take the trouble and expense should be able to repeat with similar results. (unlike some of Marshal and Sanow's claims) Ballistic Gleatin should be thought of as the equivilant of 'Rolled Homegoneous Armor' used to rate AT projectiles. No one really uses RHA for modern armor anymore but is is a good medium to compare one projectile relative to another. More reading (that I don't necessairly fully agree with): 7.62 VS 5.56 NATO 5.56 vs .223?? Read the 5.56 FAQ linked in the original post as it explains the differences far better than I could. Esentially, The Mil stuff is hotter and made with a stronger casing to withsand the punishment of hot chambers with long headspace. 5.56 chambered rifles tend to have longer freebore ahead of the rifling in order to accomidate longer tracer projectiles as well.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Arguing is pointless because in the end I get issued IVI C77 Ball ammo, with a few tracers. Â <span id='postcolor'> The canadian version of the Swedish SS109, the same as our M-855. I have read some reports of M-855 not fragmenting like it should. Â Could be the result of manufacturing varations. Â After all, fragmentation in 5.56 (military ball) rounds is by accident and not design. More stuff, this one about how 7.62x39 ball is a poor stopper: Note: Â This includes data(not pictures) from the Stocton Calif. Shooting so don't read if you are squeamish! Fackler study on 7.62x39 terminal effects.

Hi! I am new here (but not to OFP) So I come bringing gifts! 5,56 FAQ with photos and Ballistic Gelatin tests Some good people put a lot of hard work into this so enjoy! I have considerable knowledge of modern small arms and intend to share it with this board. Â Its late and I will post some of my bona fides tommorow! Â Check out the link! Ok, Ok! Â Here is one bona fide! P.S. I intend to address the relative ballistics of the major calibers and provide supporting evidence for my conclusions.

I hope this thread will turn into a legitamite discussion of the relative stopping power of major modern military cartridges and how they are modeled in game. Â Therefore I hope this thread proves relevant. More info on terminal effects of modern military cartridges. P.S. Â This image is mis-labeled inside the link. Should Be from left to right: 7.62x39 M-43 Type PS 123 Gr Ball, 5.45x39 Type 7N6 52 Gr Ball, 5.56x45 M-193 55GR Ball and 5.56x45 M-855 62Gr Enhanced Penetration Ball. The pic of one of my toys is offtopic and I will refrain from posting any more of them in the General Forum.

I hope this thread will turn into a legitamite discussion of the relative stopping power of major modern military cartridges and how they are modeled in game. Â Therefore I hope this thread proves relevant. More info on terminal effects of modern military cartridges. P.S. Â This image is mis-labeled inside the link. Should Be from left to right: 7.62x39 M-43 Type PS 123 Gr Ball, 5.45x39 Type 7N6 52 Gr Ball, 5.56x45 M-193 55GR Ball and 5.56x45 M-855 62Gr Enhanced Penetration Ball. The pic of one of my toys is offtopic and I will refrain from posting any more of them in the General Forum.