FSPilot

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Nov. 06 2002,09:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Another beef with me was the fact that you can't control the planes with the mouse like you could in CFS 2. Since I don't have a joystick, and I don't wan't to buy one for my only flight sim, that is definately a negative.<span id='postcolor'> What are you doing buying a flight simulator without a joystick? lol

Yep, you got it.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wardog @ Nov. 06 2002,07:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yak36 Forger. Too easy <span id='postcolor'> Nope, guess again. You're really close though, almost a typo.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 06 2002,07:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oookay, how do you know... but when you say interests overseas you must be talking oil.<span id='postcolor'> Bah, that's not what I meant. Take Vietnam for example. Our interest was to stop communism from spreading in asia. So we wanted to stop communist north vietnam from taking over south vietnam. We didn't do it, but it's a good example of defending our interests. Yes, oil can be an interest to a nation. But we're not going to war over oil. Say someone invades a country and captures a large oil supply. We would want to take him out of power because he could hurt the U.S. (and other countries) by how he sells that oil.

Here's a new one.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">On the other hand it could just be a different mark? <span id='postcolor'> LOL, well yeah, they are drawings. They artist could of just gotten it wrong.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Nov. 06 2002,07:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'd guess it's a Piper Warrior. It was the first model in the PA series with a third side window (above the luggage area).<span id='postcolor'> Nope. It's a Cherokee 180. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, they could be called square tipped I guess. <span id='postcolor'> When you compare it with this picture the tips are more pronounced. It almost looks like they bend in flight.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Nov. 06 2002,06:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...think that it is very interesting how a large group of Americans (mostly Republicans)...<span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Racism is when you target an ethnic group or a collection of ethnic groups.<span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Calling you a "moron" for instance would be flaming, but I'm not doing that, am I? <span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Fortunately I know that all Americans don't have such simplistic views on the world as you have.<span id='postcolor'> You insinuated. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It is the same 'ole "Shoot first, ask questions later".<span id='postcolor'> Basically. Like I said, I don't agree with what they did. But they're my government and I stand by them. Even in their mistakes. If I didn't, I'd move to Canada. The U.S. is at war. No, not with the whole world, like some critics are blowing it up to be, and not with Islam either. The U.S. is trying to defend itself. This isn't about oil, it isn't about racism. This is about the U.S. defending itself and it's interests overseas.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wardog @ Nov. 06 2002,06:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">SU15.<span id='postcolor'> Man, that picture is really tough. The Su-15 has "mid-mounted delta with square tips" (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/su-15.htm). Wow, I would never of guessed it.

Nope, it's not a MiG-23. 23s are sweep-wing. Dang man you picked a real tough one.

FOXBAT!!! Ah! Â no. MiG-23 (Flogger)

Well, I don't think that the images are THAT bad, but I see what you're getting at. For the most part, I think people can tell the difference between a game and reality, no matter how good the graphics are. At least until we get into really high-tech stuff where you stimulate the brain to make the person think they're really experiencing things. But that's just me daydreaming.

Man, that's a real tough one! Reminds me of an F-4, and an A-4, but I know it's neither. hmm...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Nov. 06 2002,06:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> I never thought I'd see the day a mod turns a thread into a flame war. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why don't you then trust your own police to judge if the people they catch are criminals or not? Sure would save a lot of money if we removed all the courts.<span id='postcolor'> Like I said, I agree with you. I think we should of brought him to trial. But they had an opportunity to take him out without risking lives and they took it. But I DO AGREE WITH YOU. We should of taken him in for a trial and prosecuted him under U.S. law. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think that it is very interesting how a large group of Americans (mostly Republicans) are paranoid on how the US government controls them (fighting for gun rights to protect themselves, protecting free speech, fair trials etc etc) while at the same time they accept anything the government does outside the us. Even more then that: it protects the governments actions in any way. You know what that is? Racism - nothing less.<span id='postcolor'> Racism!? How on earth do you come to that conclusion? And don't judge large groups of people with one sentence, it doesn't make you look good. It's almost racist in itself.

Here are some tips for posting pictures of airplanes. 1) Change the filename if it has anything to do with the type of plane. Simply download it (right click, save as), change the filename, then upload it to a hosting server (I'll be happy to host if you like). 2) Try not to link direcly from the website, it's easy to go backwards through the URL and find the information. 3) If possible, don't pick pictures that have the airplanes N number, or identification number in it. It's easy to look up the N number online and get lots of information.

#1 I have NO idea. #2 F-15 #3 A-6

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (edc @ Nov. 06 2002,05:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I know its a Piper, I'm gonna guess Piper Archer<span id='postcolor'> You're really close, but it's not the Archer. Close though.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Nov. 06 2002,05:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Denoir You are not at war with Yemen. There has been no declaration of war.<span id='postcolor'> We've declared war with terrorists and the countrys that harbor them. A known terrorist was in Yemen, and they were not allowing us to search their country for terrorists. I don't know about you, but it looks like they're harboring that terrorist. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Denoir However: where is the proof that those were terrorists? Because the CIA says that they know that they are terrorists?<span id='postcolor'> Who else are we supposed to trust? The CIA is our intelligence agency, we have to be able to trust them, and we do. We've got no reason not to. But I agree with you partly. We should of arrested him and brought him to justice. The thing is, it isn't every day you have a perfect shot at a suspected terrorist head-honcho without endangering a single innocent life. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/05/yemen.blast/index.html An attempt to capture him late last year failed. That botched attempt left more than a dozen security forces dead.<span id='postcolor'> </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Denoir Who gives the US the right to kill foregin citizens in foreigin countries? It is the same principle that you are trying to fight; the one that the terrorist use.<span id='postcolor'> We are at war with terrorists, doesn't matter where they are. We're also at war with countrys that harbor terrorists.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 06 2002,05:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol that and the other prop plane .<span id='postcolor'> TURBOprop. LOL *nitpicks* Sorry, I'm a bit of an airhead. This is the type of plane that I fly. I think I fly an older model though.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 06 2002,05:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I sure do, seems all your politicians care about is making the competition look worse, not making themselves better .<span id='postcolor'> You're right, it's pretty childish if you ask me. But some politicians don't fling that much mud and fecal matter. Some of them are pretty decent people. And then we have the democrats. LOL j/k If I ran for office I wouldn't fling mud. Just tell the truth and do what I think is right. Granted, I'm not going to run for office, but a man can dream.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 06 2002,05:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">P.S. Bonus points to anyone who guessed which ones I didn't fly to Russia in <span id='postcolor'> I bet its the AN-2. But you never know, it does say "aerotaxi" on it.

Assassination!?!?!?! </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=assassination as·sas·si·nate  Pronunciation Key  (-ss-nt) tr.v. as·sas·si·nat·ed, as·sas·si·nat·ing, as·sas·si·nates To murder (a prominent person) by surprise attack, as for political reasons.<span id='postcolor'> This was not a political attack, this was an act of war agaisnt a known terrorist.  So don't start talking about assassination.  Were at war with terrorists and countrys that harbor them, apparently Yemen now. Why are all these people hating the U.S. now? We were attacked and you'd better be sure we're going to fight back. What's so hard to get about that?

It should only be scary if you're shooting the artillery shell. LOL VERY amazing. This should also mean we can take out ICBMs.

Once I flew so low, I actually landed the plane safely. Then, I was so low, I actually taxied the plane to parking.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Nov. 05 2002,11:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> Bah, I guess nobody wants to guess. It's an AD-1 (http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/PAO/PAIS/HTML/FS-019-DFRC.html).