biggerdave

The AI's better with a grenade launcher than I'll ever be... if they figure out how to use the M79 or M203, we're f*cked! :butbut: Provide a stable platform, don't travel too fast (or too slow), and circle the town counter-clockwise, that worked fine for me.

Well, spend a penny, spend a pound. Murphy's law says, if they release the F35 as an example of a vtol craft, someone's got a model of a V44 ready, but can't work out how to get tilt-rotors to work in a model.cfg :p

The issue with ripped models, is that BIS has no control over them. So, if someone does crack the code (given enough time, people will crack the code), they've got no reason to share this work with the community. When BIS released the MLODs for ArmA.1 they did so under a license, meaning they can control what people actually do with their content. Without this, the only thing they can really do content based on ripped models is have it removed.

So... you're arguing for the ArmA.1 MLODs, but against the ArmA.2 ones? You're also arguing people should do simple work, but against the means to allow them this? I realize this sort of high profile discussion may sometimes feel like a courtroom battle, but I wasn't aware there was any reason to go for an insanity plea? Copy/Paste is the lowest common denominator when it comes to models, I'll accept that, but there are a lot of stuff the community wants that can be effectively achieved through such means. To be frank, the idea that even such simple addons should only be created from scratch is... well... snobbish. It also denies new addon makers the means to create good content, almost all of the "high profile" addon makers, yourself included started out with simple copy/paste models based on BIS's work. (I hereby declare today to be "nostalgia guilt-trip day"! :p )

How would MLODs aid the community? Do you seriously have to ask that question? Well... The MLODs contain models which can used as a basis for a lot of addons. People requested BIS add one of the older style SA80s with BAF. With the MLODs, creating such a weapon would be child's play. People have requested an SVD with a thermal scope, again, with the MLODs, a simple copy/paste job. The big nail in the coffin? Almost all infantry addon models have been built on either the ArmA.1 soldier MLODs or the ArmA.2 sample MLOD. I'm not going to argue with any further posts you make in this thread. I'll leave you with your thoughts on the first tool available to edit BIS's work. If you really now feel that such potential should be locked away forever, then I guess there's nothing I can say that'll change your mind. I will admit, though, that I might have been a bit hasty suggesting that BAF and PMC mlods should be released. Guess I got a bit carried away...

Again, MLODs aren't "source models". The models are first created in 3DS format, then converted into MLOD. A valid point, but it falls apart when you realize anyone with the technical expertise to do this could easily do it with an ODOL format model. I'm not afraid to admit I'm not fully aware of the office politics behind who actually makes what when it comes to VBS. The point is that it uses a format that isn't available to most people, so unless your point is "You are wrong about this, therefore, everything you say must be wrong", it doesn't really relate to the subject at hand much beyond what I've already said. This is true. It wouldn't rocket science. It'd be f*cking magic. People wouldn't be able to de-pbo the files, because they don't have the files. People who do have these files without buying the game, would only be able to obtain them through pirating the game. At which point, they don't need to reconstruct anything from MLODs, because they've pirated everything. It's not rocket science. Listen pal. I'll admit I'm not the best informed when it comes to business, economics, what I do understand though, is the MLOD format. If you have to move the argument towards any of these, frankly, irrelevant subjects, then that just tells me that you simply don't have the means to build an argument around the facts at hand, which are:1. Releasing the MLOD format models would greatly aid the community. 2. BIS stands to loose nothing releasing the MLOD format models. (Refer to the BIS release of the ArmA.1 MLODs, and the subsequent commercial success of ArmA.2) The only real thing BIS does loose, is the man-hours it'd take to package and upload the files, which is minimal compared to the amount of revenue they stands to make should ArmA.2 prove to a long-running success, in a similar vein to OFP. (I know I wouldn't have brought ArmA if OFP didn't have such a great modding community, and I'm sure a lot of other people can admit to being in the same boat, the very fact that these forums even exist in the way they do is testament to this) (Also, if you look, I said "mind-numbingly obvious", not "painfully obvious", just sayin')

Refer to reason against deconstruction point 1. You should probably actually read what people have said before you're so quick to dismiss valid suggestions. MLOD models are completely useless to people who don't have the full version of the game, for some mind-numbingly obvious reasons: 1. People who don't own ArmA.2 or OA can't use them. MLODs aren't like 3DS format models you'd find on turbosquid or similar, they can only be run by VR engine. So, yeah, maybe they could mod them into JCOVE (for which they would need to be one of the engineer's who made JCOVE, and would probably be court-marshalled for doing so) or VBS2 (which is futile in itself, because for the cost of VBS2 you could probably buy BIS :p ). 2. People who don't own OA/ArmA.2 can't use the OA/ArmA.2 mlods. They're just models. The textures, materials and configs for them are in the OA data files. If someone's committed enough to get all of these illegally, they've probably pirated the whole game anyway. 3. People who don't own BAF or PMC already have the models from BAF and PMC ingame. They were included in the "lite" versions for MP compatibility.

Semi. Mainly because I like to pretend it's an SLR :D

I was going to suggest you add billboards saying "Vote El Presidente", but then I noticed, you already have billboards saying "Vote El Presidente" :D Awesome island, reminds me a lot of Tonal, except, this time, there actually is a riddle I spend years trying to decipher :p (up to #5 so far)

Maybe give zombies a short range "puke" attack? A bit unconventional, but unconventional problems need unconventional solutions! :D

These sources are misinformed. Undoubtedly an official source will clear this matter up: [source] I think the confusion stems from the modular nature of the AR15 platform, sometimes rifles use left-over parts, (mainly because QMs are notoriously cheap!) for example, some M4A1's upgraded from M4's will have lower receivers recycled from an M16A1. Though I've also heard that some manufacturer's tend to give their rifles M designations they shouldn't have (for example, the Bushmaster "M4A3", which is pretty much a civilian legal clone of the M4A1, named such so it'll sell better to hillbilly militias!).

The M16A3 still has an A2 upper :p In case you're not too sure what I'm going on about, it should have a flat-top rail, like the A4 or the M4s: [pic, notice the screws for the RIS mounted carry handle] Also, something of interest, you might want to consider for the next version: [M16 LMGs]

At the risk of showing what a huge gun nerd I am... the M16A3 should have a flat-top upper, rather than the A2 upper that has in this pack. (Also, it says "burst" on the shot selector :P ) Other than that, great pack! I especially like the AR-10 :D

A few hundred of them could pile on top of it, conceivably this could be enough mass to physically crush the tank, with the crew inside ^^ Nasty way to go tbh! :butbut: Gen_B made vampires that could throw cars in OFP, so I'd expect so.

Not the case. The M16A4 was almost a completely new model. Only the rail covers, general AR-15 bits (ie, shot selector, magazine, dust cover) and RIS attachments could be found on other models. (The closest thing to the M16A4's receiver in ArmA's weapons.pbo was M4_SPR, and with a quick check you can tell the difference between these is significant enough that it'd have to be a new model) The new South Sara island had both a new height-map and satellite texture, (compared to South Sara as it appeared as in the demo or the southern part of the island that shipped with ArmA). While it was modified from Sara, it was hardly just a quick "re-chop". I also note you've conveniently forgotten to mention the KSVK, M107, SU-34, A-10, M1030, TT650, all of which were completely new models (save for the scopes on the KSVK and M107), added to the game post release.

PMCs would be hard to work as an individual pack, because there's not much "new" stuff they could really add, in terms of units, other than a number of similar looking troops and a bunch of new AR15 variants. Let's think about it, what sort of stuff do PMCs use in Iraq? SUVs, Hummers - Already ingame Light Helicopters, such as the MD500 - Already ingame (as the MH6) Unless BIS went a similar route to QG (highly fictitious in terms of gear etc.) the only really new content in a PMC pack would have to be missions or islands.

Last time I checked, US Troops didn't burn down parliament ;)

This DLC comes at the worst time ever, I don't mean, it's late, if anything, it's too soon! I have to get ridiculously early on Friday to get a train somewhere, and I know I'm going to be up until the small hours on this :p

EW music is stored in missionsEW.pbo\data\Music

Not necessarily. For example, the FN "Barracuda" can use both .45 and 9mm drums. It's a revolver, but the mechanics are essentially the same.

I have absolutely nothing to back this up, but I think the plan might be something similar to what Relic has done with the DOW:II expansion, though slightly different. Again, I have no proof of this, but it's how I'd do it! The player without the expansion won't be able to play as British troops, and will instead see British units as their american counterparts (so, all SA80s appear as SCARs, warriors appear as Bradleys, Landies appear as HMMWVs, etc.) @Steakslim: Yeah, but what I meant was everyone says "it'll split the community in half! No one will know what's happening! Up will be down! Left will be Right! French people will suddenly stop speaking in broken sentances followed the disclaimer "sorry for english i am france", anarchy!". Whereas, all that actually happens is the community is split between people who think'll split the community and those who don't, when the thing's released all that actually happens is multiple configs!

I don't know why, but for some reason the ACOG on the L2A1 and GMG really cracks me up! D= Why do both the M240 and L7A1 appear on the weapons page...? Identical gun? L7 even has the M240's rail on top (it shouldn't...) (Is it just me, or does everything fated to "split the community" only ever end up splitting the community between those convinced it'll split the community and those who disagree?)

I don't see why people are complaining about "OMG BRITISH TROOPS ARE ALREADY DONE BY MODDERS! OMG!" I mean, the only things in Arrowhead that hadn't already been done by modders were the Czech troops, L39, BTR40 and AH6X. £7 is peanuts, I recently had to pay £80 on tax for something I hadn't even got at the time...