Albert Schweitzer

And what do we have now? Tell me what we have in Guantanamo then? Tell me what we know about what is happening in Iraq. DEFINING what TORTURE is and to put it down in statues would at least ensure that all terorists would have to be considered as POW and therefore that the RED CROSS would be allowed to access the prisons. What is happening right now in the world is far worse! You are talking about the first step? Well let you remind me that it seems that some secret services engaging in IRAQ have taken more than just a tiny step. They are already half way there! Going back to the first step would actually improve the current situation!.

You mean to shoot Balschoiw before we approach the enemy was a good idea in order for all of us to survive the mission? Yes, well thats what I call an argument! IP:554.333.222.1.2. (Albert Schweizer) you have been banned from the CIA server due to insult of its members.

You mean to shoot Balschoiw before we approach the enemy was a good idea in order for all of us to survive the mission? Yes, well thats what I call an argument! IP:554.333.222.1.2. (Albert Schweizer) you have been banned from the CIA server due to insult of its members.

The issue is heavily discussed right now in germany. I remember that the police in germany threatened to torture a kidnapper of the son of a famous german industrialist if he wouldnt tell where the hostage was hidden (if I remember correctly). Unfortunately the hostage died in a hole in the forest. The police officer himself afterwards announced his misbehaviour. Noble! But fair? If a incredible crime can be prevented then we should at least allow a discussion on "how much torture" is justifiable! Dont forget that it can indeed prevent worse things to happen. Once a terorist is caught and in order to make him talk there must be other means available than for an ordinary criminal. It is no lie that the german army has developed strategies to torture prisoners that DO NOT go against the Geneva Convention but are very cruel as well. Cause you see what happens when such global standards dont exist then countries will build Guantanamo Bays outside home teritory and they will search for gaps in the legal system just to get what they want: "intel". Better close those gaps by allowing a certain way of putting pressure on terorists. And Schoeller: I indeed put words into your mouth, but in my scenario I didnt make you come forward with a naive argument for this purpose! At least this is how I perceive it. The reason why I chose you was because I shortly before found an thread that you created on "Why america is the great satan Bash away, don't dress up your sentiment" So I accused you to have a real argument while you accused us to have none, just pure haterage against the US. So compare yourself, who wasnt fair here?

Didnt you have a proper look at the pictures yet? I see a boyish looking women in that picture and she reminds me of a child that pretends to be just as strong and hard as the rest of the group. Group pressure! It is the typical proof-yourself ceremonial. "See, I am just as tough as the rest of you infantrymen". I doubt that she is a sadist. Just a poor trailor-park kid that found a job in the army and strives for recognition and respect. A hard job if you got the face of little boy and the body of a child (and hell she is tiny). But why did she think she should and needs to participate in this shooting-sessions? That I can tell you. Because it was a regular thing and not to participate in it would have meant that she would have alienated herself from the group of soldiers she wanted to impress and belong to. And another proof why this torture was a standard operating procedure shows the amount of pictures available. This photos dont stem from a crazy one-time-only party but are a diary of "what we do at work". I dont know if you can read the same as I do in these pictures and the faces of the female american soldier within? But I am pretty certain I am right. Group pressure! it is an old Nazi scheme and it works just perfect! Show you are tough ass and abuse the prisoners or you wont have any friends in your unit. Or to put it the Bush way "either you are with us or against us!" This torture was a everyday procedure to break prisoners. Fair enough if the iraqis were all guilty. but I may assume that 80% werent! And for the military I may say: I assume that your military executives deliberately failed to control the standards in the prisons. We let you do your nasty thing, dont expect much controls from our side, but make sure the prisoners talk!

I was quite happy about a little Lag. It is nothing new when I say that I need more time to act. I am kind of slow: I am the last to see the tanks, I am the last to be in position and I am the last to notice that everyone has already got out of the truck. And I am the last to understand that I got killed by a friendly fire orgy. "damn who hit me?" ... "Albert you still dont know what happened" "NO! Who hit me, where did they come from" "I shot Bals by accident" "Yes, but who killed me?" "You still dont know what happened!" "No, still didnt get the wisdom-flash" "oh Albert"!

I was quite happy about a little Lag. It is nothing new when I say that I need more time to act. I am kind of slow: I am the last to see the tanks, I am the last to be in position and I am the last to notice that everyone has already got out of the truck. And I am the last to understand that I got killed by a friendly fire orgy. "damn who hit me?" ... "Albert you still dont know what happened" "NO! Who hit me, where did they come from" "I shot Bals by accident" "Yes, but who killed me?" "You still dont know what happened!" "No, still didnt get the wisdom-flash" "oh Albert"!

such as the people giving interviews to CNN right now. Dont forget that many were brought into these prisons because they were 17+ (age) and at the wrong place at the wrong time!

Not even the pictures concern me. I was expecting that sort of scandal. Actually I am happy that those pictures were published, if not then I would have known that it happens with all groups agreeing it would be justified. What concerns me is the following Rank: Â E-3 Lance Corporal Service: Â Marine Corps Status: Â Other Family Member or Rank: Â E-4 Petty Officer 3rd Class Service: Â Coast Guard Status: Â Active Duty or Rank: Â E-6 Staff SGT/Specialist 6 Service: Â Army Status: Â Veteran/Prior Service or Rank: Â E-5 Sergeant/Specialist 5 Service: Â Army Status: Â Veteran/Prior Service or maybe this If you want I can go on and on. If you want I can put down about 1024 comments here posted on the official Military forum of he United States Army! oh and before I forget it Rank: O-3 Lieutenant Service: Navy

I dont denie that. i dont say that noone should enjoy it. I realy liked the demo that came out, but buying the game, well I was realy angry.

I bought it, I played it and I got reason enough to say it realy sucks. I love intense ego-shooters. Wolfenstein, MOHAA, SOF2 and Call of duty gave me what I needed to feel at home. But seriously this game realy made me throw up. And yes for the first time in history I broke a CD worth 50 Euro into 2 pieces. And I even felt better after that. Did I forget to mention that I hate counterstrike. Battlefield is a game for puberty but my apologies I am 27. Either OR! EITHER you are a simulation like OFP or you are a hardcore ego-shooter. But dont try crossover! And yes, it wasnt a lie, I broke the CD into pieces! I played the demo, it was fun. But the online members it attracts were just too young for me!

relaxed. everyone gets a second chance! My bad performance is forgiven, but maybe you should listen to your officer!

relaxed. everyone gets a second chance! My bad performance is forgiven, but maybe you should listen to your officer!

Toms Hardware guide. Check it out. But in order to facilitate the results for you here comes my realy updated scorelist. Asus XT 9800 (fast & dynamic tuning)

16 players,,,, hell that is gonna turn nasty!

16 players,,,, hell that is gonna turn nasty!

Looking into the future of Iraq!

Offtopic I know but ice-hockey is catching up indeed. But to beat soccer/football there is still a long way to go. And the reason is very simple. For the one thing you just need an old sock filled with paper and for the other you need ice, sticks and a puck (as we call it). Considering that the best players come from brasil and other poor countries I doubt that ice-hockey will become a sport of the unprivileged.

pah, since germany lost Ice-hockey is no more interesting to me than water-football. Oh did I mention that I am bad looser?

sorry to ask, but did the gov't that you are related to do anything to ease world conflicts? just sitting by side is not one of them, just like breaking and not fixing it. I know your administration is trying hard! But world-politics is nothing for trainees, this is not "learning by doing". it is just like with repairing machines, if you dont know how to fix it, then dont touch it, call a consultant. If the heads of the UN decided against a rapid intervention then because of the unforseeable consequences. but did the gov't that you are related to do anything to ease world conflicts Lets rephrase this. but IS (present tense) the gov't that you are related to doing anything to ease world conflicts? Well in that case I would ask: "look who is talking". And actually the worst thing is to try to fix something that you have failed to fix in the past and made it become even worse. Ask Reagan, I am sure he knows what I am talking about!

The FFL is probably one of the last european units where you still get disciplined the REAL way! He got a smack for backtalking a caporal, then Jean with his regular black eye, then the platoon leader briefing, rope climbing and party in the mortar room. http://legionnaire0.tripod.com/foreignlegionphotoalbum/id8.html

Maybe those pics were made as souvenirs for the prisoners! Some kind of postcards or so!

The thing is that I already hear Schoeler calling in "this is one incident...considering that there are 120 thousand soldiers in action it cannot be seen as a representative case of the behaviour of the US forces. Picking that one out and promoting its importance is another indicator of the double-standards the world sets. On the one hand the "poor" iraqis and on the other the "blood thirsty" and arrogantly cruel americans. " If I may answer proactively Liberating the iraqi people from a cruel dictator. That was the big self-orgasmic mission statement of the americans going to war. That was the "FOCUS" of your action (or do you want to go back to the WMD-justification again  ). You occupied iraq and now you only had to tear down the prisons and ensure that the torture-regime is gone. That is a pretty easy last task to achieve the "liberation" goal. But no, the armed forces totally forget about it. Maybe the catepillars were to busy tearing down Saddams statues for CNN and FOX. Old Prisons with blood on their walls are used again. Iraqis are kept in the same cells as under Saddam. And they ARE tortured as before. Not physically but mentally. And for an arab being disrespected and dishonoured by non-believers is probably worse than being killed. (but that is probably a bit hard to understand for the american public). Where are iraqis supposed to see the fundamental contrast to before? More electricity and water? Well couldnt that have come with a lifting of the sanctions too? With all respect to the american war-machinery, right now on TV I only see soldiers running around, shooting here, shooting there and their faces basically say "well ... we gotta do something..we just dont know what". Anti american feelings eh? Sorry for not getting an erection when looking at this miserable performance. Yeah well at least the flag in the courtyard of the prison was nice and tidy! What you call anti-american, well lets put it this way: imagine one day you meet a pretty good looking girl. Her smile is awesome, her voice, her intelligence. But then you notice after a few conversations that she only talks about herself. she only blames others for mistakes, she does not allow any criticism and she always sais: "either you go shopping with me today or I will break up with you". Dont you think that one day you may forget about her beauty and tell her that the magic is gone!