Albert Schweitzer

ouch! That is not fair to say that cloning is just a step away from crossing dogs. Then you could also argue that cloning is nothing else than the increase in speed of natural mutation. Anyway if you look at the amount of races of dogs I could actually say "look what happens if you experiemnt too much" cause there is a huge amount of overcrossed animals. And the more pure the better the dog is. The problem here is that we get too much free space for doing research at once. Now we not only can cross equal races but we can exchange e.g. genes between animal kinds and plants Horses with elephants, rhinos with sunflowers Humans with sharks! Before we were able to cross what had the natural potential to be crossed (race of dog A & race of dog B). So we werent actually doing something unnatural with dogs. Now we are trying cloning, and this is indeed a great step away from simply crossing races.

Aculaud. I know that in Germany those Labelled are having a serious meaning. The stuff I buy is around 30-40% more expensive than ordinary products. The major problem only is chicken. Cause countries like Holland, Russia and the US dont realy care about what their farmers are doing (or feeding) with their animals. There are hundreds of factories worldwide where millions of chicken sit in ugly batteries and eat and shit and eat and shit.... Problem N°2 is the so called "chicken living outside" label. Well yes, it makes sense to us that chicken living outside are happier, but in fact they are not. Chicken have a very strict authoritative system. Now imagine 80 chicken having to fight for rank every day and every time a new chicken enters. that is pure stress for the animals and often they will die because of that. The best solution is inside and not too much space cause then they cant recognise each other and dont fight. So if you dont have chicken the best solution is dont buy them, dont eat them or get them from your local farmer. Or eat meat or whatever. But concerning cows...I am pretty much sure german cows are happy. But the problem is cheap imports from elsewhere.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([TU]$33ker @ Aug. 21 2002,10:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol the terrorist were students from iraq at the berlin university. they were poor armed with some kind of gas. (maybe stolen from the university) i don't think they were fanatics. they just wanted to show that the exist and what they stand for. they were unknown untill this incident.<span id='postcolor'> They must be mad enough to rush into an iraqui embassy! I guess their families back in Iraq will soon have an invitation to a couzy interrogation by the Iraqui secret service.

That could be purely subjective. I think the missions of OFPR rock in comparison to the old missions of OFP. I never liked the amount of SPEC OPS missions. Furthermore the ones of you criticising this Addon are speaking against 90% of all computer-mags that consider it to be very well worth buying. The problem once again is that I felt I didnt realy "solve" the missions but "abused" the way in which a mission was meant to be solved (makes sense?).

That could be purely subjective. I think the missions of OFPR rock in comparison to the old missions of OFP. I never liked the amount of SPEC OPS missions. Furthermore the ones of you criticising this Addon are speaking against 90% of all computer-mags that consider it to be very well worth buying. The problem once again is that I felt I didnt realy "solve" the missions but "abused" the way in which a mission was meant to be solved (makes sense?).

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Oligo @ Aug. 21 2002,08:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Aug. 20 2002,14:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I accept the necessity of animal testing. But then again let them have a real life as well. Damn, allways in those sterile environments, fully ignored, fully isolated and then dying. Wow, great! Â Furtermore I dont think that cloning or viral research for military purposes has any use! None at all! Often we have to deal with real animal-experiments than animal-testing. Often experiments are made without the realy knowing what aim the whole thing has.<span id='postcolor'> What do you mean with a "real life"? You're judging the conditions of the lab animals with human terms. The mice, for example, in their lab boxes have toilet paper to play with and to hide in. They have food to eat and water to drink. For a mouse, this is what it wants to do. It definitely does not want to interact with any big scary humans or fight for territory with other mice. They're not free, but they have a very cozy environment from a mouse's point of view. Cloning has many useful applications aside from reproduction. Cloning of organs for example is a very nice example of this. If you drink your liver to oblivion, they could just clone you a new one. Cloning of stem cells is also a very promising application, which could cure countless ailments. This is why cloning research should not be banned. Experiments or tests with animals are never done without knowing what the aim of the whole thing is. Before doing anything, you have to apply for a permit, in which you have to present a research plan among other things. The panel which reviews the applications has not only scientist members, but philosophers as well among others. This crap about no aims in research is just an animal activist lie.<span id='postcolor'> This is pure assumption. You assume that animals (in contrast to humans) prefer the "golden cage" in contrast to their natural life-environment. That cloning has many useful purposes is absolutely right. But I think we are crossing one of the last moral bridges here. Cloning in my eyes is going too far. And while people are still preparing weapons of massdestruction and over 50% of our planet live below the povertyline I think we are not prepared nor moraly capable yet to do this step. Cloning means playing with life, you are actually experimenting with tools of life. I think that is pervert! The problem is that again some very capitalistic countries pressure forward (cause they got little moral values only good customers do count) and force all others to follow in order not to fall behind in a very lucrative and prgressive business idea. You know like me that the official kidney cloning is not the last step. I dont even want to know what is happening behind closed doors of some of the worlds national labs. Just accept that 70% of the people on this planet have no moral barrier and are willing to ignore all and everything to reach certain goals. The atomic bomb is a good example. How the hell can a scientist develop a weapon of mass-destruction without remources (please dont give me that "it ended the war". Whether yes or no, this no scientists could have forseen)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Aug. 21 2002,01:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Aug. 21 2002,01:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why shoot people that are "dangerously armed" with an axe, electro shockers and 2 imitation pistols Wasn't a real hostage situation anyway, they just wanted to talk.<span id='postcolor'> Damn, even your terrorists are going soft  <span id='postcolor'> It is because of the gun-laws. This is all they could get! I was kind of dissapointed too, why do we pay and train the GSG9 elite forces if our terorists have all retired. What a kindergarden was that yesterday. The problem is that basically everyone nowadays is called terrorist! And in our mind a terorist has a beard, an old VW-minivan and a Panzerfaust. (well and a fashionable multipurpose belt).

Looks like it  ! In case it is not PP in a different dress then I guess he is facing a strong competitor now. That would mean fag-war between PP and Spiderman!

Looks like it  ! In case it is not PP in a different dress then I guess he is facing a strong competitor now. That would mean fag-war between PP and Spiderman!

Yeah I did that too! Me and my Dragunov. I first shot the officers so the enemy couldnt spot me from a distance. And my figthers were good (formation line) but I dont want to loose points! They become extremely efficient with PK though. Or if you tell them to hold fire and shoot once the enemy approached nearer than 80 metres!

Space Alex is absolutely correct! Anyway, where have you ever seen impressive AI before? Dont forget that other games are highly scripted and what looks like AI isnt but simply an adaption to playing patterns (get it?). An enemy who throws a grenade and retreats and jumps behind a wall is not AI, that is pure script. I am very much satisfied with the AI of OFP especially with some of the ideas such as if you shoot the officer the enemy is kind of confused for a while and has to rearange formation. The way in which the enemy circles around you is well done The driving skills of cars and trucks is not perfect but well thought through If you say that the whole AI is crap then you maybe should think about how tough it is to teach a computer strategy with simple numbers (cause that is all you got). And sometimes it makes no sense to increase AI because I get shot often enough before actually having seen the enemy.

Space Alex is absolutely correct! Anyway, where have you ever seen impressive AI before? Dont forget that other games are highly scripted and what looks like AI isnt but simply an adaption to playing patterns (get it?). An enemy who throws a grenade and retreats and jumps behind a wall is not AI, that is pure script. I am very much satisfied with the AI of OFP especially with some of the ideas such as if you shoot the officer the enemy is kind of confused for a while and has to rearange formation. The way in which the enemy circles around you is well done The driving skills of cars and trucks is not perfect but well thought through If you say that the whole AI is crap then you maybe should think about how tough it is to teach a computer strategy with simple numbers (cause that is all you got). And sometimes it makes no sense to increase AI because I get shot often enough before actually having seen the enemy.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Aug. 21 2002,00:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Some guy had a pistol with what apeared to be a laser or small flashlight on it,the odd thing was it was attached right under the clip  <span id='postcolor'> Yeah, I saw the same pictures and asked myself the same question? I guess this gun had both: flashlight below and laser on top!

I know it is stupid to be destructive, but I realy want to emphasise that the mod is great so far. The Intros are great and especially the music is what all of us were waiting for. But 2 things that realy realy need to be changed. The faces are good not tough enough! And the voices are terrible (sorry if those voices are yours but you have to accept that we all play with certain images in our minds). The voices are too soft, too indifferent. Damn get a few rusty smokey deeper voices for your Mod! (und wechselt wenigstens mal die Tonlage) Aber alles in allem super Leistung, und ihr wart wirklich verdammt schnell!

Thats why we are germans! Always blame others for our misery

China is still a country where you can hardly verify numbers of deaths due to political censorhsip. So it is pretty tough to create a great story about something you can harldy film and observe. BTW, the flooding in China was NOT bigger than the one in europe but they were simply less prepared and less equipped. I guess in the case of the 2 floodings the death-count was less important. A simple train accident would have costed more lifes. But the water washed away entire cities.

Looking for a protein substitute? Oh well a teenager girl can get the wrong idea here! Be careful with that!

That was all? What kind of opposition is this? No shooting? How embarassing? I guess again some teenies that are too much into CS!

IT would be good to know which of all those Mods are actually runing or at least have a demo published! And why the hell is OFP-editing center broken down? Any alternative available?

No, dont bother collecting them. You dont even need to return them to the base. i think leaving them empty is enough. And this only works with tanks anyway!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mr_X @ Aug. 20 2002,15:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am talking $50 Australian by the way which is in the region of $25-30 US.....<span id='postcolor'> Hey if I dont write in Euro you dont write in Australian dollars okay! I was surprised, this would have been the first product on earth that is cheaper in europe than in the US. But it is neither cheaper nor is it compared to US.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mr_X @ Aug. 20 2002,15:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am talking $50 Australian by the way which is in the region of $25-30 US.....<span id='postcolor'> Hey if I dont write in Euro you dont write in Australian dollars okay! I was surprised, this would have been the first product on earth that is cheaper in europe than in the US. But it is neither cheaper nor is it compared to US.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WKK Gimbal @ Aug. 20 2002,15:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When bashing people who just want an easy-to-use computer above all else, do remember that these people often makes that choice because they have a real life outside the computer, as in: "Hey, how about going to the beach and enjoy the sun, instead of sitting here configuring network?"<span id='postcolor'> Sometimes this is the most difficult thing to explain to the people that try to promote Linux. They just dont understand it!

Resistance is a killer (now that I got it runing). They couldnt have released a better version! But why cant they release a few OFP-movies! I have seen so many Mods with great Intros. BIS should have been capable to deliver little cookies like that with this Addon! 50$ addon? I payed something like 24$ or so! BTW: could I still get RedHammer in the shops without having to buy a silly 2in1 pack?

Resistance is a killer (now that I got it runing). They couldnt have released a better version! But why cant they release a few OFP-movies! I have seen so many Mods with great Intros. BIS should have been capable to deliver little cookies like that with this Addon! 50$ addon? I payed something like 24$ or so! BTW: could I still get RedHammer in the shops without having to buy a silly 2in1 pack?