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Holy shit yes please. A few other optimizations too like draw distance, contruction points etc.

But why? Would'nt it be better if it nosedived into the groud? Or at least could be pre set depending on its mission. If the thing was flying over Iraq or Afganistan where it could be recovered i can see why. But Iran? They would never be able to get it back and they know it. Could'nt they have programmed the thing to do the best job possible of destroying itself?

BFBC2 sounds are far better and closer to reality then ARMA. The soundfiles themselves arent particularly realistic but the sound engine creates the real booming sound while ARMA just sounds pop gun and tinny and lacks depth.

Oh yes, that sounds good.

Does Jebediah ever give a fuck? I love that guy.

Well i may just do that when i want a new PC but when will that be? And if i did do it i wouldnt spend as little as £300 odd quid for a PC that can barely run anything now let alone new stuff.

Firstly like i already said why do i want my console to function like a PC? I have a PC for that. I just want it to play games. Secondly ill buy a TV and use it whether i have a console or not, so no matter what or which way you look at it its got to be paid for anyway. You'll pick up appliances like these anyway so its not a real factor. Im not not going to buy a blueray because my PC can play them, nore am i going to have to buy one if i get a console... Yeah and not thinking the house burnt down is a good example is grasping at straws? We Can disagree but i wouldnt call it grasping at straws.

PC's are not particularly more expensive in Aus/NZ while consoles and games on the other hand are renown there for their over the top prices due to export costs and a fairly small market in comparison in other parts of the world.

In fairness as an Australian you're probably one of the few who can make that claim. Prices down under are not in line with most countries though, put simply you get screwed...

Whats old on a console? Ive got "older" games then ive got never ones. I often get games a few months after they’re out as im rarely in a rush to play them, and im not spending £45 on them. Plus consoles answer to directdownload services like steam is preowned. You can get games extremely cheaply at the cost of a potentially crappy box (or get lucky and have a perfect condition game) for half price.

Yeah the problem with all this "total cost" it assumes you buy every game new and want all the crap equal to a PC, which maybe i would just buy a PC if i did. In fact its all based on assumptions. 99.8% (ok thats a guess) of people buying this stuff havent had their house burnt down. Who doesnt already own a TV? Or a PC that can do everything they need. Or even want a blueray. Or need the "most advanced xbox" (they're all about the same apart from HD which is barely an issue for most people). I have an xbox. I never buy games at full price anyway, just like loads of people i know. If i was to buy a PC, i would have to be spending more money on upgrades long before i ever recouped my savings from game prices. And more often then upgrading to a new console. So no JDB youre going to have to reduce the cost for consoles a lot more then just the cost of a TV. The fact is you cant get a PC for the same price as a console or less. And you arent saving anywhere near as much on games unless you're running to the shops and buying every game brand new or buying more games then you healthily should.

Well you've totally backtracked from your original post now. So there you have it. You cant actually get a decent PC for the same price or cheaper then a console.

The problem is YOU seem to be in the minority here. You've made a claim (the cost of PCs specifically) that few seem to agree with. You've not backed it up and now retreated behind more claims everyone else seems to be living in a land where computers cost much more. Again i welcome you to find a PC that can run modern games at decent resolutions and FPS rates for less than $280 CAD. I would be really interested to see it.

Buying expensive hardware and spending time on forums doesnt make you a hardcore gamer. I know a few keen mountain bikers, some of them have pretty average bikes they barley keep going but they love to ride the things and ride them to hell. I know some guys who have gone out and bought far more expensive bikes and twinkered with them all day, but they dont spend half as much time out on them. So who's more hardcore? Buying top hardware, tweaking, optimizing and modding doesnt make you a hardcore gamer. Gaming makes you a hardcore gamer. If you spend a lot of time on a game, you master it, you play it to hell you're more of a gamer then some guy with half as much playtime because he's been spending his time messing around with his PC and making mods. Just like the guy with the better bike he plays with but doesnt spend half as much time on.

Pretty much any PC can run any game (OS willing). Whether it can run it at a acceptable framerate is another matter. Even without them it is not possibe.

I live in the United Kingdom. I welcome you to find me a modern gaming PC for appox £180. You've made a claim but you've yet to back it up.

If you play a game to hell, master it, put huge amount of time and effort in the platform is irrelevant. Someone who will pay the hell out of Skyrim on PC is no more "hardcore" then someone who will play it on xbox/ps3. Also elitism in gaming is the lamest form of elitism around.

But why would anyone want to do that? Pay the same for a machine that will run a game like GTAIV like crap? People make this claim about PC's being cheaper but its BS. They're not. For the same price as a console you'll be far worse off. Plus have a load of hastle like you pointed out too.

I think he's pointing out youre talking nonsense. I could buy a new model 360 with a few games bundled for appox £180 (thats less then $300). I would like someone to find me a decent spec PC capible of playing PC counterparts for the same price...

I should point out when i say best example of PC gaming, i mean technically. Crysis is the best example of what PC's can do. STALKER could be done on consoles without to much issue (i get the impression from STALKER that its one of those games that didnt initially have high system reqs, but then the devs threw a load of bells and whistles on it rather inefficiently at a high cost in system req) MineCraft? If its an example of what PC can do then god help them. :p

STALKER does look like a really cool game but i cant say ive played it. Graphics wise its nothing special, and sometimes looks poor going from what ive seen. Gameplay wise i bet it could be on console if the devs wanted, and true to itself (i would say anyway, it has a lot of depth but doenst seem to have ARMA level of complexity). Crysis like i said i dont get the fuss over the graphics. Going by how much PC gaming is "apparetly" ahead i would expect way more. Minecraft, great game, dont know how its an example of PC gaming though. Doesnt look very great and could be done on console, and will be soon enough. And Total War? Well ive played them all, hard to be amazed by something you've followed. Shogun looks fantastic but nothing breathtaking. Gameplay wise console games will never have something like it. Still if PC gaming is so far ahead why is Cryisis still the best example? An why wasnt it that far ahead when it came out?

Nope. PC games do obviously look better but these kind of claims are usually nonsense. Im yet to find a PC exclusive game that actually amazes me. Strangely the best examples seem to be by modders. I could understand if they were modding multiplat games but even PC benchmark games like Crysis looked "good" but nothing amazing until modders get their hands on them. Funnily enough usually the thing i notice most about them then is the fact their overexposed as hell by the people who mod them. GTAIV being another example. Every amazing photorealistic screenshot i see seems to have been taken in Dubai rather then Liberty city. That or Niko seems to have died and gone to heaven.

Mafia 1 came out in 2002, i doubt a game that looked like LA Noire would have come out 2 years later...

Although in fairness i think the music was one of the best parts of RR. The theme is pretty catchy.

You mind explaining what that even means?